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different use of dual numb
« on: January 01, 2008, 08:05:06 PM »
Well I've had the Analog controller for the PS1 since it came out.. and the PS1 since it came out ^^ (and a ps1  :censored: = Please refrain from mentioning these devices on acidmods since before they played different regions in color :) )
so i really want dual numb stick on my PSP. And since we learn soldering at school and i have a lot of spare time in the class room, i guess ill try it out. But i have some questions that i would like to ask before i do:
  • From what i can understand the second numb is linked to the X [] /\ and O.
    I'm guessing it would be the same procedure to link it to the directional buttons?
    • What are the items i would have to purchase (excluding the PCB that i can acid myself)
      I would like it to look original :)
    • The newest method (the one that is explained in the TUT here) all under the faceplate? just like the original numbstick?
      or els i think i will wait for a new method
    • Do i need to remove the charging plug to install this?
      If so is it possible to install a new smaller charger plug whit out the two extra pins(hence making it smaller)

    I hope im not asking to stupid questions now.. but i have tried the search engine [/list]
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    Re: different use of dual numb
    « Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 10:36:48 PM »
      Quote from: Siggen on January 01, 2008, 08:05:06 PM
      Well I've had the Analog controller for the PS1 since it came out.. and the PS1 since it came out ^^ (and a ps1 mod chip since before they played different regions in color  )
      so i really want dual numb stick on my PSP. And since we learn soldering at school and i have a lot of spare time in the class room, i guess ill try it out. But i have some questions that i would like to ask before i do:
      From what i can understand the second numb is linked to the X [] /\ and O.
      I'm guessing it would be the same procedure to link it to the directional buttons?
      What are the items i would have to purchase (excluding the PCB that i can acid myself)
      I would like it to look original
      The newest method (the one that is explained in the TUT here) all under the faceplate? just like the original numbstick?
      or els i think i will wait for a new method
      Do i need to remove the charging plug to install this?
      If so is it possible to install a new smaller charger plug whit out the two extra pins(hence making it smaller)

      I hope im not asking to stupid questions now.. but i have tried the search engine [/list]


      1. ?, are you trying to wire the d-pad? or are you trying to wire X [] /\ and O?
      2. you have to buy another analog nub to assemble the razor with.
      3. T3h_0v3rl0rd's method is the most recent.   https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=12678.0
      4. Yes
      5. Yes, you can move the plug to a different location in the psp and take off the two plugs (they're for charging stations and since you have to move the plug anyways I doubt any charging station will work with the psp anymore.

      hope that helps.
      btw use a better online translator.
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 11:11:06 PM »
      okay i almost got this clear now, this sounds easier than expected ^^

      i would rather wire it to the directional d-pad

      and T3h_0v3rl0rd's method with original Sony numb stick will fit under the faceplate? nice.. (i like it to look authentic and original, but better than everyone els that lives local)

      is it the plug it self whom is in the way, or the whole PBC it sits on? could i solder a replacement whit out support for the charging station to the same place? i dont really need it since im soldiering the usb charger mod next week anyway.... but its nice to have, and nice to have in the same place to, so it looks authentic :) (just a preference not really a necessity)
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #3 on: January 02, 2008, 10:26:09 AM »
      my last question would be hard for me to search for (because i don't know the English name for it).
      Where can i find the a2d drawing i would print to a clear paper for the lighting of the print card, before etching :/
      i believe it's called a flag, but I'm not sure.. THIS would be the kind of drawing i am looking for (only my link is for a serial interface for the commodore 64)

      hope you guys understand... i learn this in school, and my teachers talk Norwegian :(
      and my English teacher told me that gender was synonym to genre, so listening to her does more harm than it does good (the worst part is that  the other students I'm my class believe her in statements like that and swears by it)
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 05:19:56 PM »
      the a2d board design is here
      https://www.acidmods.com/Wiki/tiki-index.php?page=A2D%20Board
      the razor board design is here
      https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=10063.0
      here's one with schematics of both the razor and a2d
      https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=11298.0
      Hope that helps you
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 09:01:37 PM »
      Thanks dslitemodder :) the last link was just what i wanted :)

      well a new question popped in my mind...
      the a2d board works with theoverloard aka edhel's tut found here right? same procedure?
      and about the ground.. if i don't find the ground spot on the directional d-pad, i can use the - on the USB right?

      hope you guys don't mind me asking so many questions, i just don't want to ruin my psp :)
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 09:14:08 PM »
      Quote from: Siggen on January 02, 2008, 09:01:37 PM
      Thanks dslitemodder :) the last link was just what i wanted :)

      well a new question popped in my mind...
      the a2d board works with theoverloard aka edhel's tut found here right? same procedure?
      and about the ground.. if i don't find the ground spot on the directional d-pad, i can use the - on the USB right?

      hope you guys don't mind me asking so many questions, i just don't want to ruin my psp :)
      No, You need to use the razor for that.
      I guess you could use the ground on the usb, but I don't know for sure.
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 09:26:09 PM »
      How come the overlord/edhel told me to use the a2d board? :S

      still wondering about the USB gound
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 08:03:57 AM »
      Quote from: dslitemodder on January 02, 2008, 09:14:08 PM
      No, You need to use the razor for that.
      I guess you could use the ground on the usb, but I don't know for sure.
      in the tut edhel just a razor to do it, but I guess you can do it with the a2d it'll be fatter but it's your choice
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 12:44:37 PM »
      after opening my psp i saw that the d-pad switches was just a piece of plastic on a ribbon cable....
      i dont think any soldiering there would do any good..
      seems i dont have the knowledge to make this work :(
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 03:00:38 PM »
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 02:09:16 PM »
      Thanks, you guys are so friendly, i come with a problem not really asking for an answer cos i though there were none, and i get a really good and explanatory answer right away  :hifive: Thanks Again!!
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 03:03:08 PM »
      don't thank me, thank the people who figured it out in the first place. I just point people in the right direction
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 07:59:09 AM »
      Let us know how it turns out Siggen.  I'm interested in doing the same thing.
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      Re: different use of dual numb
      « Reply #14 on: January 14, 2008, 04:41:54 AM »
      seems it can take a little while, I don't have that much cash after Christmas :P
      but ill order the sony replacement numb as soon as i have cash :P
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