i think they went too far

[kink192]

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1052/1052_01.asp

i think thats a lil too extreme, yeah its their beliefs but still thats a lil too far.

[seikene]

Wow I'm going to print that out, goto bible club in my school , and burn it. Seriously I respect just about all religions, but extremists are just about the only thing that would either
A: Make this comic panel that would probably piss just about every gay and lesbian off.
B: Push their beleifs TOO far and then figure out why people hate them so much.

Although some might think that this comic is perfect to show the world, you can go ahead and contradict me all you want, but my opinion stands.

[kink192]

my view is, your religion is kool as long as you dont force it on me. but more power to you. thats kinda crazy

[seikene]

Well I'm atheist, so I basically just don't beleive in anything, but I still respect everyone's religions, plus whenever I hear, oh thank god, I start loi XD, but yeah mabey I might go overboard with the burning of that comic, but I know most of those ppl in bible club are just plain annoying, and it's funny to curse near them.

(I.E.- "Hey Jorge, you gonnna watch Saw 4?"
        " Naw Pedro (me), I heard that movie is a piece of :: (Trust me I lie, the movie pwns, I just needed a good movie for a bad example)
Bible Club member- Hey, stop f*****g cursing, it's against the road of gawd!"
Me- Meh shove that road and a whole highway down your a$$ you turd

[budgray19]

well teh part about gays in teh bible and what will happen to them is true so dont mistake that

[Rory]

Wow I'm going to print that out, goto bible club in my school , and burn it. Seriously I respect just about all religions, but extremists are just about the only thing that would either
A: Make this comic panel that would probably piss just about every gay and lesbian off.
B: Push their beleifs TOO far and then figure out why people hate them so much.

Although some might think that this comic is perfect to show the world, you can go ahead and contradict me all you want, but my opinion stands.

Some people in the world like to think that their "advice" are "solutions"
I personally have respect for anyone who believes in a certain religion.But when I'm in the highstreet with a load of mates there is always some preecher stood there. We take the piss out of him, "evolution fact or fiction". WTF is that about?

I may sound like a racist, i just have a highly defined sence of whether people are forcing their beliefs on me. If they do i take the piss and argue the toss.
I have 2 mates who are christian (one being Timmy), ask them if i take the piss. I don't because they believe what they want but keep it to themselves. Their religion may put some restrictions on their lifes and if they abide by those then that makes them better than me. Such as not to think dirty thoughts, lol, you cant help what you think, its automatic...

At the end of the day, its like bingo..
If you choose to follow the wrong religion then you wasted your life restricing yourself from some of the stuff you might enjoy and still end up going to hell or whereever.

[Timmy]

At the end of the day its freedom of speech as kink said, its only extremicism if you give it notice

That's just a text, you wanna here about some extremists, heres a group of baptist right wing nut jobs who were actually going to interfere with heath ledgers funeral and ruin it for the family

http://www.godhates:censored:s.com/

Or theres those idiots who went into a abortion ward and killed all the mothers about to have one calling abortions a tragic waste of human life, anyone else smell the irony.

Its funny that we call these people religous extrimists when like it or not thats not religion, thats just wrong

Although true that text may SEEM harsh, and to some it most certainly is, but to me (if its not to you then thats ok) "Extremist" means an action was involved

[seikene]

well teh part about gays in teh bible and what will happen to them is true so dont mistake that

I know, but trust me, I've known very good families who are christian and catholic who still beleive even gays can get into heaven, so it's more about morals and then beleiving through written facts. Extremists take it too far, knowing that even if some people are gay, it just makes their sexual preference different, that doesn't change who they are or what they do. It's not like gay people can't go with straight people on a night to a pizzeria and have a good old reunion outta nowhere, and that's what extremists don't understand. I usually think they do this because they are AFRAID of not pushing the bible far enough and being afraid of going to hell. While I don't beleive in a heaven/hell, I do beleive that if you are a good man, then your god should allow you passage into his sanctum. They just don't understand morals, but then again w/o them the world would have less chaos, which is actually a bad thing, according to someone who said it but I can't remember so I shouldn't even mention 

See but something that Timmy said that sparked my mind. btw thanks for sparking it mate ". How can extremist really be the ones carrying god's orders, if you will, when they are directing breaking a commandment: Thou shalt not kill
Where they apparently killed mothers who decided to do an abortion, and I know of many more who killed alot of:

Gays
Jews
Mexicans
Blacks
Whites
SubNational Socialists (is that how you say it? correct me if it ain't)

Even worse is how so many go against their own kind due to someone like for something, or an interest to something considered taboo in many places, it includes:

Fetishes of many kinds
Gays of course
Furries (Basically people who like anthomorphic animals, others consider them as "animal f*****rs")
Massacists or Sadists
Satanists
The list goes on people

(Btw I am a furry art lover, means I like furry art, and in no way does it mean I'm an animal f****, just like if someone is gay it doesnt mean they love butt sex, its a steriotype and it's plain wrong, which also contributes to the main hate issues going on in the world. Also means if your a Fufist, doesnt mean you LOVE fufa, had to put a joke there to blend with the ranting I'm going through, because of course just posting this won't ever mean that the hate will stop, but still is a good way to connect to others views and opinions, even if some or most or even all will disagree in some/most points. )


Edit- Oh Double-U, tee, Eff.
http://www.godhates:censored:s.com/written/fliers/20080207_illinois-mall-shooting.pdf
This is just complete bs^^^. Heh it's funny yet sad how this can lead to a whole chain of hate, I'll explain after next reply, need to get it completly thought out b4 I get contracdicted heh.

[kink192]

i cant really complain because to them they feel they are doing the right thing, but im a laveyan satanist, the rest of my family is christian/catholic, most people expect me to be really violant, sacrificing animals, just bad morals. not true, its a stereotype, and for the sake of redundance, stereotypes suck. and there are stereotypes of all kinds of people out there, name one and ill find one if you'd like. but in my opinion thats a lil too much, and the bible was written in a time when stuff like that was considered wrong, but now its ok so i feel that anything like that is influenced strongly by the time.

[seikene]

I think steriotypes end up being influenced by not only time, but the enviroment around them, and espescially media.

[kink192]

yeah that too, i was just trying to get a generalized picture of what i was talking about. yes i agree the media influences things to but not everything. i personally feel that its all in how it is interpreted by the person

[seikene]

True, but usually the media targets people yet it's not them to blame. Here's an example:
Usually I watch the 10pm News on Fox 7. They give their usual news, and by usual, I mean:

Earlier today, a local black man came into the 7/11 store and tried to rob the man, he was captured and arrested

Nothing wrong but then:

2 black men apparently trying to steal a jewlery store, coming in with masks on and guns ready, they escaped with over $500,000. If you have any tips or information, please call 305-wanted ( that aint the number, I forgot it >_<)

Notice a pattern? Basically this is ALL I see in the news. The sad part is that the news never has any good news or anything, even sader, most bad news such as crime is usually someone who is black. Of course this is mainly in Florida, but then it says something. To the ordinary person, it just says that Florida is really hitting high with crime, but others that see it see it this way:

Ugh danm blacks jacking s*** from our stores

Or

No don't park it there, some black guy is gonna come up and scratch the car

OR (from my dad because he is less of a racist but more of a steriotype listener if you will)

Olvidate, si tu vias a los barrios de los negros, ellos te van a robar y despingarte la voca.
Translation: Forget it, if you live in the black neighborhood, they gonna jack you and f*** your mouth up.

Basically this kind of news end up making steriotypes stronger, and it's feels like it ain't even on purpose, but of course as Kink said, it ends up depending on the way the person seeing/listening to it interprets it.

[kink192]

i get what your saying, media does influence people. and im sorry but im not fluent in spanish so i dont know what it is your father said, and i dont feel like looking for a translater lol. but i get where your coming from. to me i dont see skin color, religion, sex, orientation, anything like that, to me your a person and your actions speak louder then any of those