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i cant afford it and like me and reaper both pointed your being a fanboy its nothng to be ashamed about im a sony fanboy, i have every console. but i also like other consoles too. i have a feeling half the people at most schools dont know much more about computer in colleges then enter key makes line skip. sry for bad grammer but i know many people with laptops, are in college and everyone of them has no idea how to get into to control panel even. and seriously stop saying im inexperienced every single comp since i was in elementary school has been a mac except when i go home. I know more then most people on the comps doing repair work at the school. and dont use a random example with a noob online, it like apples and oranges my friend. I'm actually in the target market too since i love video editing, music creating, and most media stuff, but if you know anything about computers you will not get a mac, unless your rich i guess, or could run windows, but still its a waste of money, buy a cheaper machine with same capabilities and use a program to emulate OSX.can we take this debate to another thread though since its interrupting fufa.and id say go to one of those sites where you can make your own laptop.
the macbook air has a 5 hour battery lifebutthey are not meant for everyone. macs in general arnt meant for everyone as they have a higher price but if everyone bought them then prices would fall. but i suggest not getting into this debate
**Takes deep breath and cracks fingers**The macbook air is NOT for the hardcore market, and for one main reason. The battery, Apple in all their wisdom decided that beauty is better than functionality and when your batter is running low on the road/air/anywhere not near a power supply you can't just swap the battery out with a fresh one. Other things which don't mean so much that are wrong with it are the little things such as lack of optical drive. I know a lot of people who do actually travel around a lot and they store slide shows/videos on dvd's and cd's. Yeah you could technically put them on thumbdrives, but now you have to go out and buy 20-30 thumb drives for each individual thing, or even just a few large ones, although that's quite expensive as well. Apples solution to the lack of optical drive is the fact that you can use "remote drive" Yet again, the person on the road doesn't have a full desktop computer to use this with, making it impractical for someone on the road.The actual speed of this thing is quite low. Yeah it is a C2D, but it's amongst the slowest ones they make. The hard drive on the thing is also slow as hell . The base model comes with a 1.8″ hard drive. As most computer enthusiasts know, 1.8″ hard drives top out at 4,200rpm. Compared to regular 2.5″ notebook hard drives that are at least 5400rpm (or even up to 7,200rpm), the Macbook Air hard drive is slow, making simple things such as the booting up excruciatingly slow. You could argue the premium model has a SSD and a (slightly) faster processor, but you have to fork out another ~1300 bucks for it.My last worry about the air is something apple could have easily implemented but didn't. The Air, I hate to say, has mono speakers... even the little plug for my ipod so I can listen to it without headphones broadcasts in stereo, and that cost me ~10 bucks... I love good sound and that kind of makes me a bit sad.You could argue all these points, but yet again saying some of these things wouldn't matter to the "market" this is for only narrows the market down. Your average joe who sees this small ass laptop on tv and decides to make the jump is going to immediately have issues with the little things. You see, I do look into things. Yeah OSX may be a great operating system, but IMHO, I could spend 1700 bucks on 2 great PC's way before I jump to something that is easier.
MAC IS TEH SUXXORSSee what you made me do!Also, alienware is teh expenisivezBut seriously, do you think that Apple will ever drop their prices... the ipod is one of the largest phenomenons in the MP3 business, yet they still make over 200-300 percent profit on them
Im really hoping the Air touch features are either hardware added, or software upgraded, as thats the single best part off the Air!
i knew all these facts which is why i said its crap. i've read in on already. I've heard the battery time is way less if you have anything running in non optimal conditions. I do hate apple and all your right I think I've made that clear but I wouldve went on my marry way if someone hadnt mention that computer. I think it sux I'm entitled to my opinion, and whether you like it or not 9999 outta 10000 peeps who know anything about comps wil think they suck. well at least if theyre thrifty.
that is the dumbest thing ive heard in a long, long timeagain, you have no ground to make that claim, nor ground to say the computers suck when they are as good as any other computer brand, because you are not a mac userand those facts do not make it crap, it makes it innovative. the multi touch hasnt been used on a laptop like this before
you obviously arent reading what your writing thenI thought we were talking about the air right. and i do have to use macs i dont like them when i do use them.now your just trying to save a dieing argument and pass off things that make something crap as not crap. from what im reading you'd buy a box of crap if it had apple on it. not saying your that bad but seriously admit when a company does something wrong. I'll admit vista sux as of now, im still rocking xp.
i have extensive use of mac like ive repeatedly said half my life doesnt count i guess. and i dont have to be in the target audience of something to tell its crap. and no complaining just solid arguments which u seem to be lacking atm.
then you've wasted half your life on a computer, that in itself is sad, even if you are exaggerating. plus the fact that adaptation allows us to easly become used to a computer system so easy to use and yes, you do. if the product isnt geared towards you, then it is not meant for you, and telling off somthing as crap without even taking a good look at it isnt valid at all. and yes, it is all complaining 'its crap, macs are crap' thats complianing, not very solid and its obvious if you have 'extensive use' which i highly doubt, then dont use it and quit complaining about it and writing it off as crap
how did you feel it then. and i want an ipod touch because i have my consumerism too, but mostly because ipods are so popular they get the coolest hacks. plus touchscreen is just cool. but it is way overpriced if they had a cheap replica or another mp3 which could do the same then that would be for me. and i would never make a trip to do any one thing really im not that sort of person. unless it was like the release of maybe mgs4 or something like that or maybe new FF.
it sux nuff said im gone from the thread have fun talking to yourself and making yourself think it doesnt sux. Your a lost cause when it comes to comps.
it dont sux nuff said im gone from the thread have fun being right and proving to yourself and everyone im being immature. im a lost cause when it comes to comps because i cant handle the fact different people like different things.
i cant validate the price though, thats what most of my argument has been about besides the OS which i hate for other reasons. its just a machine made for people to waste theyre money on and i dont care how sexy cool or whatever they are i would never buy one. the itouch is just for the hacks that i want it mostly and just all the different programs it gets even originally. i think the air is stupid. the ceo's of random companies or whatever may like it but anyone who does anything more then email or word processing is gonna need more then an underpowered, overexpensive machine.
yeh the airs next revision will hopefully bring it up to speed for the money your throwing down cos at the minute its rediculous
Every company has a slowest product.Just saw an Ad for a Toshibe Laptop, 12" Screen, 60Gb Hdd, 1.6 Ghz Celeron, lightest laptop theyve made 'Leading an innovation'The Innovation bit is BS, as leading would be the lightest, not the lightest one theyve made, and all that comes to around £1000, so it seems manufacturers are making more portable laptops after all, so it cant be that smaller Niche.
noah I'm an Apple Fanboy as well but think that, AT THE MOMENT (and in its current design), the Macbook Air is a ridiculous product. It's competing with it's cheaper, more powerful brother, the Macbook. Who cares about maybe half an inch of thickness? I do care though if I have to spend nearly double the amount of my money on a laptop that isn't even as good as the plain ol' Macbook.The idea and concept of the Air is great but I guess you have to start with something before that style of laptop can really kick off.
and again, the market is very narrow, but still rather widemy best estimate of this exact market is bothon-the-go businessmenand on the go college students
That part is WAY off and caught my eyeask any college student this as wellmost college kids are BROKE and won't spend that much money on a laptop regardless of the modelin fact I just helped 11 of my friends get PC's and Laptops for college and out of all of em the most expensive one (retail) was 1300 bucksunless they have rich parents LOL
Lots of Uni's have Apple stores on Campus, that give you a huge discount.
i can just see college students buying laptops and selling them online for profit
im sure there would be a technicality
Who is Eligible To Purchase?The following education individuals are eligible to purchase through the Apple Store for Education Individuals: - a teacher, lecturer, tutor or other supervisor of students at a UK education establishment - a student aged 18 and over with a valid student card, attending, or accepted into, a UK education establishment - a parent purchasing on behalf of their child who is a student currently attending or accepted into a UK Higher or Further Education establishmentPurchase Quantity.Staff, students and parents purchasing from the Apple Store for Education Individuals will be allowed to purchase the following quantities of product per academic school year:a. Desktop: One (1) may be purchased per academic yearb. Mac mini: One (1) may be purchased per academic yearc. Notebook: One (1) may be purchased per academic yeard. Display: A maximum of two (2) may be purchased per academic yeare. Software: A maximum of two (2) per software title may be purchased per academic year
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/macbook-air-selling-out-left-and-right/