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Btw Jr,Greece/spain and portugal are allready broke. and More EU country's are following.I know the economy changes a lot, but atm it's a lot more than usual. Normally we have a profit of 550 million Euro. Now it's only 346 million. Big difference with the last 5-6 years.
even with the media in his pocket he is still going down as the worst president in the history of America
Yes, I'm aware of their financial positions, I do pay attention to the world outside of the U.S., however a greater change than normal does not make it a recession, nor does the mismanagement of a country and it's budget. It's not a recession, it's an inevitability of the current economic practices of living in debt.Really? Since when has he had the media in his pocket? Just cause FoxNews and Glenn Beck say it doesn't make it true. Are you seriously going to buy into that bull:censored:? So, he's worse than Harding, Buchanan, Johnson, Pierce, Harrison, Grant, Fillmore, Tyler, Taylor, Van Buren, Hoover, Garfield, or even Nixon? (I won't even get into W.) Seriously? I know he hasn't been the greatest president, I mean he's no Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, or Eisenhower, but he is far from the worst...In the words of one of the not so great presidents, who oddly enough is one of the most revered: "No one has a right to grade a President, who has not sat in his chair, examined the mail and information that came across his desk, and learned why he made his decisions." - J.F.K.
So they quickly dump the body at sea then burn down the compound in Pakistan and all the evidence that went with it? Who is buying that? They havnt proved anything to the public, no pictures, no evidence what so ever. we are just supposed to believe everything the mainstream media and government tells us, without asking any questions. I think this is all BS political propaganda, for all we know osama died years ago, this is from fox news in 2001 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
Really? Since when has he had the media in his pocket? Just cause FoxNews and Glenn Beck say it doesn't make it true. Are you seriously going to buy into that bull:censored:? So, he's worse than Harding, Buchanan, Johnson, Pierce, Harrison, Grant, Fillmore, Tyler, Taylor, Van Buren, Hoover, Garfield, or even Nixon? (I won't even get into W.) Seriously? I know he hasn't been the greatest president, I mean he's no Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, or Eisenhower, but he is far from the worst...In the words of one of the not so great presidents, who oddly enough is one of the most revered: "No one has a right to grade a President, who has not sat in his chair, examined the mail and information that came across his desk, and learned why he made his decisions." - J.F.K.
@Chives the economy is pritty bad, but it could of been worse.and were have you bin for the last 8 years? Obama is bad? in the history of US president there have bin many worse
Why is it that the middle class is rapidly dissappearing and we are still lining the pockets of the worlds elite? how do you explain what is going on in libya right now? thats an interesting thing Im not sure that "change" involved being more at the disposal of corporate interests and remaining vague about what is really going on, but I guess we are all waiting on that change.I can just hear it now Jr... but obama killed bin laden and turned the economy around that counts for something? nope. PS: its funny how you suggest I am regurgitating fox news opinions because whenever I read anything you have to say I feel like Im watching the cbs nightly news.
I'm glad we only have to pay allmost 5 dollar a liter, not 6. or maybe 7. It's bad, but could be worse.same stupid comparison dont you think geraldrubalcava??
But how the hell did Obama make it 3 years in office before the official birth cirtificate came out?
i'm about out of popcorn...
this whole thing is above me, so i will not pretend to know what i am talking about by responding to the bigger picture, but this however needs my 2 Quote from: 802Chives on May 03, 2011, 09:55:19 AM But how the hell did Obama make it 3 years in office before the official birth cirtificate came out? this whole thing is above me, so i will not pretend to know what i am talking about by responding to the bigger picture, but this however needs my 2 cents (i feel). He didnt need to release this. there was no reason for him to do it in the first place. he did it to shut people like trump the hell up. he released his short form certificate years ago (which is also 100% official and a legal document that says who he is and where he was born). Every presidential elect had to submit one, so why dont we need hilary clintons certificate, or john mccains? why just obama? i am sure that its clear to everyone with half a brain at this point that EVERY birther (and i do mean 100%) are racist. there is no POSSIBLE explanation that doesnt involve racism. its cause he is black that people want this information. Not saying you're a birther or even racist by the way chives, just saying that people who are need to STFU.that said, i will be locking this topic and moving everything but the original news post to club am. if i should not have done this (admins) i'm sorry, but i feel that this should not be on the front page (as political debates break rule #11)
I mean obama is far from the worst president but hes not the best one either. But then again its silly to let just one man make all the important decisions of a country in the first place.
yea, that would be silly wouldnt it?
NM LOLthey are both democrats in a republican house, so she would have had the same hurdles he does...back to the popcorn.
Last year we sold about 29.000 trucks.Now only 9800that's a big gap. Fine , let's put it like this; There is a recession in the truckworld.
Yes, that's a pretty big difference, especially considering that the first number was when the 'recession' was at it's worst... explain away, please...Also, what were the numbers for each of the 5 years prior to last year? comparing two years doesn't show much especially considering that automotive sales is never constantly increasing in sales every year since most people buy a car and wait 4-6 years to replace it... (and I would assume that since it's a much smaller market and are more expensive and take longer to pay off, that the large truck market would be the same, but I could be wrong, it's known to happen)