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Console Modding------ ( Here you can talk about your favorite Consoles ) => PSP's => PSP Phat (1000) => Topic started by: aliander on January 23, 2008, 04:00:44 PM
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Hi there!
I did some adapter modifying to get an sd hc -> memory stick pro duo (well, no magic gate) thingie.
So here it is:
1. I took a microSD -> memory stick pro duo adapter from transcend to translate the signals and a cheap memory card reader as sd card slot
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2. Well, taking apart and getting rid of mostly use less stuff like the usb connector from the card reader ;)
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3. Soldering a flat cable to the adapter (sorry, img has bad quality)
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4. Solder the card reader part
this is quite straight forward. you just have to know that sd has one more ground pin than micro sd and so you go
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5. Well, here it is - the final proof of concept
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I also did some measuring and here I've got a question, cause I don't have a memory stick pro duo card reader here to test the adapter itself, without the psp
Here are the results:
[Card]: [min Result] -> [highest Result] => [average Throughput]
sandisk 2gb: 5,45 MB/sec -> 5,72 MB/sec => 5,6 MB/sec
transcend microSD 1gb + Adapter: 3,10 MB/sec -> 3,58MB/sec => ~ 3,50MB/sec
mod with 512mb sd card: 4,53 MB/sec -> 4,66 MB/sec => 4,6 MB/sec
mod with 16gb sd hc card: 3,7 MB/sec -> 3,96MB/sec => 3,8 MB/sec
This were all tested plugged into psp.
Testing the 16gb sd hc card without psp I get results at ~16MB/sec
So, does the psp do some bottlenecking or is it the micro-sd -> ms pro duo adapter (maybe the build in translator chip can't handle such high transfer rates, cause micro sd is of course much slower, so maybe it isn't just build for this speed)
I can tell you more, when I have an accurate memory card reader, that can handle ms, so I can test the builded adapter without the psp...
Btw. here are some costs:
Adapter + 1gb sd: 10€
Card Reader: 5€
16GB SD HC: 70€
So there is price gap between 16gb ms pro duo and of course also to some ready to use 4-1/2-1 adapters, wich cost from 70€->150€
So, hope someone may help me with the speed issue...
Ah, btw. does someone know how to fake a "card change" to the psp?
Changing the SD Card doesn't trigger an memory stick update of the psp... so maybe I have to cut some connections or something... ?
Thx,
Ali
P.S.: It's the first time I work with picasa online albums, so I don't know if it supports direct linking...
If there are no images, here is the link to the webalbum: http://picasaweb.google.at/thenaeap/PSPSDCardMod (http://picasaweb.google.at/thenaeap/PSPSDCardMod)
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nice!!! :tup:
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OH GOD JESUS CHRIST THIS IS AWESOME...
BRB buying parts needed, and a 16 gb SD Card... I mean jesus 16 gb in my PSP without spending a fortune...
S-ATA to SD anyone?
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Just as an FYI that's not a POC unless you how it working.A pic or vid of it showing the memory being read or something is a POC,this isn't.
But either way that's a :censored:en AMAZING find!!! I knew it could be done but I never thought it was SO easy!
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ZOMG thats so cool :victory:
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Video please? At least several pics of it saying it has 16gb.
I'm sorry... but I just feel it's just too good to be true. I mean, come on, it's that easy?
BTW, was that the regular psp or psp slim? If it's the regular psp, you think the slim has better hardware that may support faster transfer rates for the 16gb?
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Video please? At least several pics of it saying it has 16gb.
I'm sorry... but I just feel it's just too good to be true. I mean, come on, it's that easy?
BTW, was that the regular psp or psp slim? If it's the regular psp, you think the slim has better hardware that may support faster transfer rates for the 16gb?
Yes it's that easy, it's just a bunch of converters, and he said that it might be that slow because of the micro sd converter, since micro sd cards run slower then other ones.
Also, it's a fat, you can tell from the picture.
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yea its that easy all u have to do is cooresponed the wires and split the ground
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Yes it's that easy, it's just a bunch of converters, and he said that it might be that slow because of the micro sd converter, since micro sd cards run slower then other ones.
Also, it's a fat, you can tell from the picture.
Huh...
well then again, I can't really tell what's slim or fat. :sadno:
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Huh...
well then again, I can't really tell what's slim or fat. :sadno:
wifi switch on the side, non-clear backplate, fat looking, speaker holes.
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wifi switch on the side, non-clear backplate, fat looking, speaker holes.
Don't need to rub it in :cry2: Ok, so I'm a noob fine.
Anyways, if it works for a regular adapter/converter, is it possible to use the neoflash if it supports up to 32gb by cutting a wire?
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alright
gonna put up a vid or a pic farm showing the 16gb on the psp... ;)
I also wondered why nobody did this before, because it really IS an damn easy hack...
till soon
Ali
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alright
gonna put up a vid or a pic farm showing the 16gb on the psp... ;)
I also wondered why nobody did this before, because it really IS an damn easy hack...
till soon
Ali
and I'll be waiting :yess:
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and here it is...
(actually I'm currently waiting for google to set the vid free... *watching simpsons and southpark while waiting*)
not really impressiv, but ok-ish ;)
sorry for the shakes, but I don't have real camera here - I used a little digi-cam instead and that was freaky to use without free hands :P
the psp itself shows up 14gb, not 16gb. I didn't tested this out at the moment. Either it comes from the psp formatting (2gb overhead would be kinda much...) or it is some sort of calculation error. Anyway, it shows that it works - of course, as I said (and others before) it is a quite easy mod.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5375546851079297860 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5375546851079297860)
bye then
Ali
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WOW!!! :w00t: I really hope it works Because I'm Trying this first thing this Friday. A friend at college already told me if this works he would help me do this internal. Maybe a bigger cover for the battery could do well for hiding it! Sorry for my English! Its not really my language... :tup: GOOD JOB!!!
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You officially win.
Slimby
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Just curious now.
You are the first person I've seen to actually prove the limit is above 8gb. Congratz on that :#1:
Anyways... this makes me curious if you can now use neoflash's (or maybe even datel's) converters to get a 32gb compact flash working... I'm not sure about datel though...
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First: Awesome mod!
Second: Where did you find the Transcend adapter, the only ones I've seen are no-name brands?
Third: What kind of flat cable did you use?
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Cool, with some more proper work this will turn out really great.
If U take out the UMD drive and replace it with 1 or 2 of these (if 2 U need to use a Switch) U could have allot of space. :D
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Cool, with some more proper work this will turn out really great.
If U take out the UMD drive and replace it with 1 or 2 of these (if 2 U need to use a Switch) U could have allot of space. :D
It would be great if it can read both at the same time like the double expand memory thing. (I dunno if it uses a switch though)
BTW, you have a pic of inside the cardreader with the wires connected and the sd card inside? Sorry, I'm still confused on what was soldered.
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WHAHAHAHA you pwned pvp with his memory mod.
this one rocks.
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hi everybody!
Well, never have thought this little thing would trow waves that big... but thanks :)
So, first: yes, make it intern is a good aim. I want to find a place for a sd slot and cut up the psp at this place ( plus making a switch from old ms pro duo to sd).
as next I don't think it would be much of a problem to get two of these up and running. There is a 2 ms pro duo mod out there. Just combine it with this one and you got it.
but as you can imagine you wouldn't just have really doubled your space, cause you have to switch cards - and that seems to suck...
Well, there is also the possibility to add the memory up to virtually one big card. _BUT_ this would work without a chip that does the address management and as the ready to go solution doesn't work properly it isn't a good idea to get their chip doing that.
Anyway there will be 32gb sd hc cards out soon (in fact there should be some from panasonic around now, cause they wanted to release them in jan 08 (even if that wereonly 5000 or kind of)) and with 32gb I think we have reached the psp limit. But hey ;) let's try. And _then_ you can mod it up to 2 32gb sd cards and switch them...
So, at the moment I first have to repair my analog stick as I smashed it yesterday and then I will try to get some internal stuff working. But don't specially wait for it cause I'm studying and have to spent my free time coding to earn some money, due to there is not much time left (btw. sleep is no replacement for coffein!)
Ah, the question where I get the flat cable from...
Well as first I wanted to use one of this Cables used for IDE and stuff (don't know the english term for that one), but it came out that this is far to big to build into the micro sd adapter (so it can act as a ms pro duo). So I disassembled an rather old printer and found one of this really flat foil-cable thingies. Wasn't fun to solder, cause the plastic :censored: starts rather fast to melt, but it worked quite well in the end.
bye
Ali
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Ah, I forgot to mention where to get the Transcend microSD->ms pro duo adapter.
For myself I ordered it from an austria online shop. But I think you'll find enough just googleing for "transcend micro sd memory stick pro duo"
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Oh man this mod is awsome >.<
Now its soooo easy to get the max of space for less work and less money
I want to see the Internal version with the Sd Slot :D
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Oh man this mod is awsome >.<
Now its soooo easy to get the max of space for less work and less money (btw how much cost such a 16Gb sd card?? )
I want to see the Internal version with the Sd Slot :D
70 us dollar, he stated it in his first post.
Also Kypes, check ebay I found one for 70 euro shipping not included :3
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sounds like a good price for that capacity :D
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As I have never opened my psp, i'm not sure what the space is like in there, but it seems like it would be quite easy to make this mod fully internal...
If you could just desolder the the MS connector, take an SD connector and super glue or hot glue it to the board (Make sure the board is covered to prevent and connections obviously) and just have wires connecting to the points on the board going to the small pcb for the microsd-ms connector, then wires from that to the pins of the sd slot.
dremmel or file a little extra room on the sides of the case to make up for the extra width of the SD and you're set.
Does this even seem plausible?
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Ah, the question where I get the flat cable from...
Well as first I wanted to use one of this Cables used for IDE and stuff (don't know the english term for that one), but it came out that this is far to big to build into the micro sd adapter (so it can act as a ms pro duo). So I disassembled an rather old printer and found one of this really flat foil-cable thingies. Wasn't fun to solder, cause the plastic :censored: starts rather fast to melt, but it worked quite well in the end.
Darn, I hoping I could pick some up at radioshack or something, but I haven't had much luck finding it there. I guess I could use kynar wire and just heat shrink it all together :dntknw:
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As I have never opened my psp, i'm not sure what the space is like in there, but it seems like it would be quite easy to make this mod fully internal...
If you could just desolder the the MS connector, take an SD connector and super glue or hot glue it to the board (Make sure the board is covered to prevent and connections obviously) and just have wires connecting to the points on the board going to the small pcb for the microsd-ms connector, then wires from that to the pins of the sd slot.
dremmel or file a little extra room on the sides of the case to make up for the extra width of the SD and you're set.
Does this even seem plausible?
Something like that is the plan yes ;)
I also do think, that it should fit somewhere in the psp, then cutting a slot into the psp case to make sd card changing possible and a little switch to choose between ms pro duo and sd.
That was the target of the mod. Well, let's see when I find the time...
bye
Ali
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I wonder why are you all so Thrilled
this all ready exist it called "PSP Double Expand Memory Convertor"
here is the link
http://www.superufo.com/product_html/SONY_PSP_PSP_Double_Expand_Memory_Convertor.html?aff_id=24 (http://www.superufo.com/product_html/SONY_PSP_PSP_Double_Expand_Memory_Convertor.html?aff_id=24)
is not the same?
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I correct myself cause the PSP Double Expand Memory Convertor does not work
with SD HC Memorys only with SD
so i must say
GOOD Job ;)
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Thats not the same.
btw this is an amazing mod!!
i will hope to do this is there is instructions and links :)
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I wonder why are you all so Thrilled
this all ready exist it called "PSP Double Expand Memory Convertor"
here is the link
http://www.superufo.com/product_html/SONY_PSP_PSP_Double_Expand_Memory_Convertor.html?aff_id=24 (http://www.superufo.com/product_html/SONY_PSP_PSP_Double_Expand_Memory_Convertor.html?aff_id=24)
is not the same?
The Double Memory Converter doesn't work with SDHC cards so the best you can get with that is 2x4gb cards to get 8gb.
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yes i know i already mod my post
great job
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do you think that there would be any way to fit this in the psp internally by removing the normal memory card slot or would that then not be able to read mspd cards - either way it could be put inside the psp and just slot the ms reader where the umd drive is then because it is a flat wire and small enough you could keep the umd drive
p.s. extremely nice mod well done
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hi again
in the moment I'm just sitting in front of my psp parts and wonder where to put the sd-card-slot...
Well, of course we can replace the normal ms pro duo slot. put I want to have ms pro duo support... so that's not an option. Well, maybe if I can get a multi card reader slot thing or kind of, so I can insert either sd or ms.
Well, I gonna try some things and hope I don't screw it up ;)
bye
Ali
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I was just looking at your pictures and it looks like you wired 1 - 8 from the microsd adapter to 1-9 on the sd reader, minus the extra ground. Is that right?
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yes it is that is what he said it has an extra ground pin so wire the grounds together it is quite easy to see from the picture
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also relating to this which i got shown the other day
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yes, as I said it's quite straight forward, I think I post a table here...
| Function | micro SD | SD/SD HC |
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| Dat2 | 1 | 1 |
| CD/Dat3 | 2 | 2 |
| CMD | 3 | 3 |
| Vdd | 4 | 5 |
| Clk | 5 | 6 |
| Vss | 6 | 4,7 |
| Dat0 | 7 | 8 |
| Dat1 | 8 | 9 |
Well, I do number the pins just straigt from left to right. I tell this, cause I found some different numbering on different sheets. Often the 1st pin on the SD Card is mentioned as last (9th) one - maybe cause it is set back or something...
good luck! :yess:
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also i have 16gb of storage but it is in 4gb sections lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnLqVAGVVJo
oh ali to make it easier to understand i want to make an image for him but you have named the pins differently could you please tell me which pin links to which by using the table i posted and the pin relating to the adapter
e.g. 2 on the mem stick slot is bus state could you label the pins on the adapter the same way left to right please thanks
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yes, as I said it's quite straight forward, I think I post a table here...
| Function | micro SD | SD/SD HC |
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| Dat2 | 1 | 1 |
| CD/Dat3 | 2 | 2 |
| CMD | 3 | 3 |
| Vdd | 4 | 5 |
| Clk | 5 | 6 |
| Vss | 6 | 4,7 |
| Dat0 | 7 | 8 |
| Dat1 | 8 | 9 |
Well, I do number the pins just straigt from left to right. I tell this, cause I found some different numbering on different sheets. Often the 1st pin on the SD Card is mentioned as last (9th) one - maybe cause it is set back or something...
good luck! :yess:
Could we get a pic with the numbers on them would be most helpful
Great mod by the Way
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Just look at this page: http://pinouts.ru/Memory/sdcard_pinout.shtml (http://pinouts.ru/Memory/sdcard_pinout.shtml)
But remember, that for simplicity I have given a non standard numbering method. They count it like 9,1,2,3,4... So watch out for this. But else I see no problems :)
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| Function | micro SD | SD/SD HC |
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| Dat2 | 1 | 1 |
| CD/Dat3 | 2 | 2 |
| CMD | 3 | 3 |
| Vdd | 4 | 5 |
| Clk | 5 | 6 |
| Vss | 6 | 4,7 |
| Dat0 | 7 | 8 |
| Dat1 | 8 | 9 |
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi84.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk33%2Fbenny0006%2FPSP16GB.jpg&hash=cd16a2c7ca92b03514c838cb2c8c6a99bb69e8e0)
so according to this table would the pic be correct??
thanks
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The contacts of micro sd would be facing up in the pro duo adapter and the sdhc would be facing down in the card reader. So for the adapter you need to reverse the order.
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The contacts of micro sd would be facing up in the pro duo adapter and the sdhc would be facing down in the card reader. So for the adapter you need to reverse the order.
thanks so on the adapter 8 would 1, 7 would 2, 6 would be 3 etc..
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ok I see...
I'll search for better pics ...
ah, well... here it is: http://www.planetmobile.it/jumpjack/adattatore/pinout-eng.html (http://www.planetmobile.it/jumpjack/adattatore/pinout-eng.html)
this one, I think, serves you quite well
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im so trying this luckily i have a friend who has a transcend laying around
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Thanks for the help guys i think i got it now here's wat i understand can some confirm this is right
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How did you get the adapter open, an exacto knife?
Also I found out that some of the 16gb sdhc cards format to around 14.6gb.
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I had a question...does this work with all usb to sd card readers? Because I saw the hama one that you have and it says it is a mmc and sd, but what about sdhc or do all sd readers support the format?
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good morning guys :)
@gawl47:
yes. carefully cut it open. But this was surprisingly easy, cause it was mostly just stick together than really glued...
thanks for the formatting info.
I wonder why this is. Formatting shouldn't really depend on the hardware, but on the filesystem structure I put onto it - and there nearly 2gb of 16gb is pretty much.
@stankbot:
the cardreader just have to be cheap and should eat sd cards. you don't need any reading ability of the reader itself. you only use the sd slot with its connection pins.
bye
Ali
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hi again!
I managed to get an card reader supporting ms pro duo and so i tested the speed of the adapter build thing without psp
Here we go:
1. Transcend 16gb SD HC Card: ~16MB/sec
2. Adapter + Transcend SD HC: 8-9MB/sec
3. Adapter + Transcend SD HC + PSP: 3-4MB/sec
As we see the adapter itself (most likely the chip doing the signal translating stuff) speeds down to a half of the speed (what is also just really :censored:ing fast!), but the psp itself just seems to nibble down the whole thing...
so if we want higher transfer rates I think we have to go through usb - *wink to pvp* ;)
also I have to mention, that I didn't found a good place to fit a sd slot inside the psp... I'm happily receiving ideas concerning this issue.
I thought of putting it between umd case and backplate - case it just takes about 3 mm in height I thought it would possibly fit. But wasn't the case.
So another idea would be to manipulate a UMD itself to get it working as a shelf for the sd slot and stuff... that sounds like fun ;)
The big disadvantage is just that you can't use UMD while using your sd card... and that is bad when you want some isos loaded that simply only work with umd in.
So... there also is space left just under the screen on the right bottom. But we would have to insert it vertically, so direct card inserting wouldn't be possible.
so far from me
bye
Ali
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really love all the progress updates ali, keep it up
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wait, you have a SD micro to mspro duo adaptor, why not use that one?
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With the Sd card reader do u just remove everything except for the actually reader part
loving this mod can't wait till my parts arrive
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Here this might help some of U guys:
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg444.imageshack.us%2Fimg444%2F7945%2Fsecuredigitalcardpinoutdj6.jpg&hash=024aae9b5711bf0bf9e74138cfac50b032744b19)
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hi guys
First: Thanks :D
I just kicked out the multi card reader from my laptop ;)
This one can also read ms duo and sd cards. So maybe this is a solution (yes, ok... kinda obvious ;))
Put this one in instead of the standard ms slot and you can read sd cards and ms pro duo (there is mostly an adapter to ms duo in ms pro duo packages) with it.
Only have to figure out if it isn't to big. Cause it needs way more space than the standard slot...
bye then
Ali
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hi guys
First: Thanks :D
I just kicked out the multi card reader from my laptop ;)
This one can also read ms duo and sd cards. So maybe this is a solution (yes, ok... kinda obvious ;))
Put this one in instead of the standard ms slot and you can read sd cards and ms pro duo (there is mostly an adapter to ms duo in ms pro duo packages) with it.
Only have to figure out if it isn't to big. Cause it needs way more space than the standard slot...
bye then
Ali
thanks for that ali this is a really good mod well done again
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hi there again!
So, the memory card reader from my laptop is too oversized to fit into the place of the standard ms pro duo slot of the psp. So well, I've a new idea, but I don't think I'll do this, cause the chance is high to ruin my ms pro duo slot ;)
here is the idea:
stock the standard slot up for about 1mm. then put sd pins on the bottom of the slot end. so if you put in a card upwise it will connect to sd and the other way round (the way you always put in your ms pro duo) it will connect to the std. ms pins.
but most likely I'll :censored: this up ;)
so I'm kinda fighting with myself if I just do it, or if I should just make a nice attachment to the back of the psp and wire it internal + switch, so no need to swap card and adapter anymore...
bye
Ali
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Can you do a tut, i would definatly do this mod! Its amazing!!!!
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OMG this so cool i am stocking up on the parts already ty ver much. :yess: Great mod BTW. :tup:
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Dude, this is awesome.
Keep it up man. It'd be awesome for any PSP to use SD cards.
Hope you get it done and get a tut up. :tup:
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How would I wire the memstick reader to a sd reader (see pic below).... since there are 9 pins on the sd card and 10 on the psp memstick how would I wire it...
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So hi guys
I don't think that there will be a step to step tutorial - except another one will make it - because this forum thread, based on the simplicity of the mod, automatically some kind of tutorial. You just don't have anough steps to put up a tutorial.
Get a SD Slot (Memcard Reader), an microSD->MS Pro Duo Adapter and solder it. That's it, guys.
Well, when you don't in what relation the microSD and SD Card pinouts are... well, this have been well pointed out during this thread. Just read it!
bye
Ali
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How would I wire the memstick reader to a sd reader (see pic below).... since there are 9 pins on the sd card and 10 on the psp memstick how would I wire it...
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi243.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff91%2Fredryno1221%2FDSC03801-1.png&hash=8d7b355b219591f0f4dcd797fe12c7cd645c7703)
Anyone?!? PLZ :beg:
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@redryno:
This is the aim of this mod -> to link an sd card slot with the ms pro duo slot (psp).
you can't just wire it up, because sd cards and memory sticks have other conversation protocols. that's why you need that kind of adapter I used (microSD -> memory stick pro duo)
now you can wire the micro sd to the sd card slot and put the memory stick adapter into the memory stick slot -> voila
just read through the whole thread before doing double posting of already answered questions, thx
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wow, id say get this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1698 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1698)
then buy a 200GB IDE HDD, then back up everysingle psp game ever made
please hyperlink your links to make it easier for users to acess them
-wrcsti
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that's nice ;)
but the speed of 4mb/sec or more probably less than that is kinda frustrating...
well, it is fast enough for isos and videos... so here you go :)
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I forgot to tell you, that this will also suck your battery to death...
that was one kind of reason, why I decided to use SD cards...
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wow, id say get this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1698 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1698)
then buy a 200GB IDE HDD, then back up everysingle psp game ever made
Sorry man, but that won't work. That will make your sd card accessible through the ide, turning it into a bootable harddrive. It won't work the other way around. If you tried to attach it to the sd=>pro duo it would think that the PSP is a storage device if it even registered.
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has anyone tried any multi-readers yet?
Cause i have a project im working on and i would NOT mind the size of a multi-reader if it worked ;)
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I think a multi-reader would be too big to place in the stock spot... but you could probably mount a multi reader in the UMD area and wire it to the board.
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I think a multi-reader would be too big to place in the stock spot... but you could probably mount a multi reader in the UMD area and wire it to the board.
lets just say i dont have to worry about the default PSP case
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has anyone tried any multi-readers yet?
Cause i have a project im working on and i would NOT mind the size of a multi-reader if it worked ;)
I was toying around with the idea of using this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820162018. It's small and reads SDHC and Pro Duo (with the adapter). I'm guessing you still will need the microSD to Pro Duo adapter.
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hi there!
I have on doing SD/SDHC and MS Duo. Was about to use it internal, but it was way to big...
But anyway it would be no problem to use. Just wire up the stuff it should be and for Cards using other conversation protocols (like sd->ms) use an adapter (like microSD->ms pro duo we used in this mod)
bye
Ali
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has anyone tried any multi-readers yet?
Cause i have a project im working on and i would NOT mind the size of a multi-reader if it worked ;)
After looking at some pinouts of the MS and SD, I really don't think that a multi-card reader would work, well you wouldn't be able to use MS cards in it only SD. From what I understand of this mod the reader is only used to be able to connect a sd card to the ribbon cable, it is not actually doing anything as far as read/write conversion. The microSD to MS Pro Duo is what is actually doing all the work. If you tried to put an MS into a multi-reader wired like this mod it would be trying to read it as though it was an SD, becuase or the MicroSD to MS Pro Duo adapter.
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yes, exactly
but you can do wire up an multi card reader and put up some adapters to ms pro duo, so you can feed it with more cards.
so you'll have to go something like this: hama bridge card -> sd card -> microSD -> msproduo
kinda bad concept, but I don't see an easier way. that way it's kinda lego playing ;)
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Great mod aliander,
Getting my parts together for this. Just a couple of questions.
On the SD part, there are 2 grounds, so I just connect them together?
If so, where does the ground on the MS adapter connect to?
Sorry,that I don't know much, but if the SD card reader is only used
to hold the SD card and does not help in processing, then in theory
we could just solder the cable right at the SDHC card pins?
Thanks
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Sorry if I step on your toes here aliander, I'm sitting at work bored so I figured I would field this question
Aliander has Pins 4 and 7 on the reader connected and then there is a wire going to Pin 6 on the MicroSD to Pro Duo adapter from Pin 7 on the reader or he has it in a Y configuration (I can't really tell). So 4 and 7 on the reader are connected to Pin 6 on the MicroSD to Pro Duo adapter.
And you are absolutely right about being able to solder directly to the card however becareful if you atempt it. The heat could posibly damage the memory card.
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Haha same here JeFeSand, bored at work too.
Well thanks for the info so far. I guess we need to find out from
aliander if its a Y configuration on the grounding before I commit
to this little good mod. Cause in his pictures, all I see at the SD
end was ground = ground connected.
Owh, about the slow speeds on read/write, could it be due to the
3.80 firmware? Heard dark alex saying it was a bad part on Sony.
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hi guys
yes, you can solder this directly to a sd card, but of course you will lose card-change functionality and risk your sd card (as mentioned) caused by heat damage.
And to your other question:
well, have a look at the pinouts on the 2nd page of this thread.
as microSD has 8 pins and sd card has 9 pins I had to look for the difference. in this case it was quite easy as the only difference was a additional ground connector on the sd card. so I just had to bridge it.
I don't see a difference between bridging to pins (1-2->3)and making an "Y"-Connection (1->2-3). all would be connected to the some node, so no difference...
maybe I misunderstood you
bye
Ali
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Where can Ifind flat wire? :dntknw:
please dont write your entire post in capital letters, it is very annoying and makes it seem as if you are screaming
-wrcsti
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get it out of an old device (I got mine out of an printer) or buy it at an local electronics store...
btw. pls switch off your caps lock
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thanks
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check this out
Sony 16GB Memory Stick PRO Duo specifications
Memory capacity 16 GB
Usable capacity 14.9 GB
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That's because they count it as multiples of ten for advertising purposes, and format it in a completely different way.
Slimby
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That's because they count it as multiples of ten for advertising purposes, and format it in a completely different way.
Slimby
Sort of. I'll explain in a little more detail. It's base2 (binary) trying to fit it in a base10 world. 1024 is 2^10 in binary and becuase it is close to 1000 in base10 the powers that be named it a Kilo. So a Kilobyte is 1024 bytes. From there it gets even crazier. To get a Mega- (in SI format) you multiply a Kilo by 1000 but wait in our base2 naming convention a Kilo is 1024. So a MegaByte is actaully 1024 x 1024 or 1048576. A GigaByte is 1073741824 (Megabyte x 1024). Now lets make it all come together. Multiply 14.9 x 1073741824 and you get 15998753177.6 bytes. Now round that up you get 16,000,000,000 or 16 giga (Si Standard for 1 billion). Do you see where I'm going with this? As far as advertising goes they usually round the bytes to the nearest mega or giga and then use the SI naming convention based on kilo being 1000. So you are actually are getting about what they advertise it's just in the computer world a kilo mean 1024. Meaning to turn 16000000000 bytes into GB you have to divide by 1073741824 which equals about 14.9GB.
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Bingo. Jefe has it. And some sand. I want some sand :(
Slimby
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Bingo. Jefe has it. And some sand. I want some sand :(
Slimby
Man I confused myself about 5 times writing that. Sand is great, especially moon sand. :)
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Has anyone tried porting usbhost to the iphone or i pod touch because people can make them do whatever they want? That would be nice. The i pod touch holds what 16 or 32 gigs max?
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I think having an Ipod attached or internal modded is a burden. You'd
have to charge it or have some power source ( via PSP or external )
attached to it.
Back on topic, just ordered the micro SD -> ms adapter. non-branded
china type.
If it works out, i'm going to have something like this :
SDHC -> micro sd/ms adapter -> switch -> PSP ms slot
MS pro duo -> switch -> PSP ms slot
Means I'll gonna do this internal, having 2 card reader slots at the UMD
side ( dumping the use of UMD ) have those two wired to a switch and
then leading to permanent soldering at the PSP ms slot.
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Just spit-balling here, but wouldn't it be possible to simple do away with the MS part of it all and simple wire the adapter into the USB port and perhaps using something like IRShell? Since you can always be in USB Mode in IRShell, wouldn't it work if the MS was formatted correctly?
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I have an idea on how to do this with a multi-card slot. The card slot has separate pins for the SD card and the MS Pro Duo card. If you were to wire from the MS port to the MS pins on the multi-card slot and wire to the MS to SD Micro adapter and connect the adapter to the SD side of the multi-card reader it could work.
____[Multi-card]
/ |
[PSP] |
\____[MS to SD]
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Squee, no you can't wire it into the usb adapter and expect it to read. The psp has usb client function only. For more info on that I would suggest reading everything that Pvp has been doing to create a usbhost "adapter" for the psp.
Phaal, nice idea. It may be difficult to wire though but your idea should work. I'm currently working on something else but as soon I get a chance I'm going to give that a try. Unless you beat me to it.
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Doesn't pvp have an i pod in his psp?
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Doesn't pvp have an i pod in his psp?
No, it maybe a harddrive from an ipod but it is not an ipod. He has possibly an ipod hard drive connected to a usb interface connected to a device that can act as a true stand alone usbhost for the psp, then that is connected to the psp. The problem they are having now is programing the usbhost to correctly communicate with the psp and harddrive so that both devices can understand each other.
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aliander i sent you a message
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First, a slight contribution to the thread.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245)
16GB SDHC card from newegg.com, $64.99 plus $4.99 shipping.
Second, is there any feesible way to bump up the data transfer rate to a slightly higher speed than 3-4 MB/s? Maybe a different MicroSD-to-Pro Duo adapter(does one even exist)? Smaller load times on games would be great, but it doesn't seem like this current setup significantly improves load speed(I could be wrong).
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I've got a non-branded micro SD -> MS adapter on its way to me. Roughly around $10 inclusive of delivery.
I suspect it'll be the same speed as mentioned by aliander, but who knows? When I get it I'll report it to all
here.
Also another possibility would be the 3.80+ firmware limiting the read/write speeds?
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if you are looking for a multi card reader try ebay http://cgi.ebay.ca/USB-2-0-All-IN-1-MEMORY-CARD-READER-WRITER-XD-SD-MMC-MS_W0QQitemZ230221102413QQihZ013QQcategoryZ51082QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Has anyone had a problem with the transfer speeds yet? I understand its pretty much half speed as regular mspd, but does it really effect load times majorly?
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i dont get it
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hi there!
@stankbot:
More speed would be fun, but as a normal MS Pro Duo Sandisk with 2 GB just gives 5-6 MB/Sec (wich is even way faster than one from sony) you don't feel much of an difference at loading from the SD Card.
At the moment I'm repairing a bricked PSP. When I have it up and running I will try out different firmwares, maybe it is (as already mentioned) only an problem on 3.80...
@luke101a:
what's the problem?
bye
Ali
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Was thinking about going the multicard reader route... but there's a few problems for those wanting a CLEAN mod.
1. I haven't been able to find a muticard reader that can take pro duos without an adapter
That being said
2. If you could replace the original reader with a multicard reader, then you would need the adapter and your MS would stick out.
3. Even with the multicard reader, an SD card would stick out.
4. The only way to counteract this is to mount the reader in the UMD drive area. That way it can be concealed.
5. Mounting in the UMD drive area makes the idea of a multicard reader pointless. You could just get an SD slot and mount that in the UMD drive area and use the stock slot for your MS.
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hi brentbizzle,
yes, thought about this.
most multicard readers only take ms duo as you said and are way to big to fit into the original psp ms pro duo slot place. So I thought of modifying the original slot. something like making it 1mm wider and stock it ab for 1-2mm. now put sd card pins on the downside und leave the ms pro duo pins on the upside. so we would be able to insert sd and ms pro duo just depending on the card and wich side is up of the card.
but at the moment I'm to frightend to try this. but I've got a bricked psp here, when it get's out, that it is totally screwed I gonna do it with that original slot - to give the whole thing finally a try...
placing into umd-drive:
i wouldn't put an multicard reader umd. I would put the sd card reader with an push to eject mechanism into the drive space and make the eject mechanism the switch for sd <-> ms pro duo.
another idea would be to but an card reader into a empty umd case, so you have to insert a umd to connect and sd card - that's a quite funny idea anyway ;)
bye ali
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most multicard readers only take ms duo as you said and are way to big to fit into the original psp ms pro duo slot place. So I thought of modifying the original slot. something like making it 1mm wider and stock it ab for 1-2mm. now put sd card pins on the downside und leave the ms pro duo pins on the upside. so we would be able to insert sd and ms pro duo just depending on the card and wich side is up of the card.
This would be cool, but would mean pretty much creating your own socket... which is not going to be an easy task. If you can pull a mod like this off that would be awesome... but it just doesn't seem practical.
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hi there again!
yes, it really seems to be a little bit tricky... and has a high frustration-probability ;)
the lack of space doesn't make it easier
so first I want to unbrick this psp and test out reading speeds with different CFWs. Would be great if it is only the 3.80 doing bad on transfer rates.
and then I gonna think again about slot creation
bye
Ali
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another one:
just mentioned that dark_alex got the old 3.71 driver for the memory stick running on 3.80/3.90
I will try this out tonight (let's say in 9-12h)
bye
Ali
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why not just use the one from the original post with a switch conected to the duo card adaptor that comes with a pro duo? that would give you both.
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hi there!
first: Sorry, I didn't managed to get the time to test the adapater with the 3.71 drivers. Will do this during the day now...
@tbag:
the one I now use (from the "original" post) doesn't have a "push to eject" mechanism. So you would have to manually switch every time you change from ms<->sd or just swap sd cards. With a push to eject mechanism you can use that as the switch so it will "auto recognize" swapping etc...
And done this internal as multicard reader would be just great ;)
At the moment I have the cardreader just simply taped to the backplate of my psp. Well, it works, but it kinda sucks. But stuff that actually works always makes one kind of lazy, when it comes to improvement ;)
bye
Ali
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ok so my psp is completely dissasembled umd drive and all.i have a mobile mate sd plus with all kinds of translators so how did you wire yours i want to be able to combine a couple sdhc cards and a 2 gig duo do i need to daisy wire the cards or use a mem card reader like my mobile mate, or an idea can u just parrelel wire cards or do i need the multi card reader and can u just put another mini card between each 4gig and wire all syncs to geather and use as one card plz let me know psp is in pices
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Hi there!
So I did some measurements... here it comes:
I changed my measuring tool, so I simply post some screens for now
1. SDHC 16GB trough card-reader (to simply test the speed of the sdhc card itself)
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.google.at%2Fthenaeap%2FR7bh2OgrooI%2FAAAAAAAAACY%2Fvo_puxGo_Xc%2Fmess_sdhc16.jpg&hash=ee238aaa254209ab6d97a50fd5ad19ac44e06e31)
2. SDHC 16GB through Adapter (SD->MS Pro Duo)
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.google.at%2Fthenaeap%2FR7bh2egropI%2FAAAAAAAAACg%2FQuMX3C8clA0%2Fmess_adapter1.jpg&hash=03b06b8a71bc41ebd887a9a3180cdc54c3f67c23)
3. SDHC 16GB through PSP CFW 3.80 m33-5
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.google.at%2Fthenaeap%2FR7bh2egroqI%2FAAAAAAAAACo%2FkTGOmj1uLrc%2Fmess_psp380_1.jpg&hash=0a558cfea2c6d531136877a139357aba573e0d6b)
4. SDHC 16GB through PSP CFW 3.80 m33-5 with patched 3.71 MS driver
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.google.at%2Fthenaeap%2FR7bh2egrorI%2FAAAAAAAAACw%2FP70ptdSut8g%2Fmess_psp371_patched_1.JPG&hash=5af0c7141d158b61a3f6d578486a599cade2e92a)
So, there isn't really much of an difference between 3.80 and 3.71, isn't it?
I'm sorry, but for now I don't have an Memory Stick Pro Duo lying around to do some reference testing...
Maybe someone else can do this?
Else refer to my first postings in this thread
bye
Ali
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@folklord36:
sorry, but I can't follow you... So what exactly are you going to do?
But what I can say is, that simply parallel wiring cards won't get you a single big card ;)
You could wire it parallel and make switches for them (think the source voltage will do), but this isn't much of a fun - so you always will have to switch around to make the right card working...
And for wiring diagrams just scroll through the thread, there are some in here
bye
Ali
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This might run out of topic abit but I'm just trying my luck here.
Anyone knows if 8gb micro SD will work with those adapters?
If it does I guess I'll just save myself the trouble and work with
micro sd's instead of soldering work.
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Hi cyloh!
Yes, should do.
There is no difference between using an microSD or SD Card in the perspective of the ms pro duo -> microSD adapter.
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Thanks for the assurance aliander!
I was worried if the adapter could translate SDHC data or not.
But if a 16gb SDHC will work, in theory a micro SDHC should work.
Owh well, I'm gonna risk $55 for a 8gb micro SDHC to see if this
works.
Owh, in terms of speed, is your 16gb SD a Class6? That might
help.
At those speeds you're showing us, we'd probably need to run
uncompressed ISOs for acceptable loading/gaming. CSO compressions
might be irritating with those read/write.
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Hi there!
Yes, my SDHC is a Class 6 Card.
And no, we don't need to use ISOs for acceptable loading/gaming. Just the other way round would be more correct, cause we transfer less data from the SD Card.
But at the moment I'm very pleased with the speed, when it comes to gaming. So that's definetly not the problem. It would be just nice to have the full transfer rate of the SDHC Card when it comes to simple data transfer... but in that case you also can just pull out the card and throw it into an card reader to write big stuff like ISO/CSO or movies or discographies on the card.
bye then,
Ali
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Just wondering insteed of using that adapter ... using one with like a USB plug at the end ???... then u may be able to stick in any like thumb drive or even a portable HDD
http://www.1compras.com/images/products_images/unfurl/1cob201ras.jpg
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omfg (oh my fooking god)
that is what he did, but you mean if he put a female usb connection on the end he may be able to use any usb device
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Just simply look at the work done by PvP
you can't simply but an usb thingie to that, cause you'll need an usb host. but the psp doesn't act as host, but as client -> you need some stuff between two clients. That is what PvP was/is doing.
bye
Ali
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he was only needing a host because it is through a usb which means he needs to use usb host fs to access read/write any file through the usb as it is not used in games but the memory stick is, so if you wired a female usb connection to the mspd slot on your psp much like the card reader but then attach an external usb hard drive then the driver for the psp may or may not recognize the drive as a memory stick / storage device as it would be running through the memory card slot not the usb port, which is not what pvp was/is doing
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Could we cut down on the complexity by using something like this? Just solder the connection between the socket and the adapter.
SD card> SD socket> ribbon/wire/etc> adapter> PSP. Keep the functionality of the pro duo and be able to use 16gb SD cards.
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi119.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo123%2FSilentheero%2FProject.jpg&hash=c420600491b3f29b691a1e5a786a3ce2a1692918)
Edit: the breakout board/ SD socket http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=204# (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=204#)
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@FaT3oYCG:
This is just an simple card reader. I did use something like this as a basic card slot for this mod. It connects an sd card with an usb host (aka your computer or stuff). But you can't connect another usb client like an hdd or something to it, cause they can't communicate without a host. That's why you would need and usb host (like on OTG Hdds) and that is exactly what PvP is doing.
But maybe I get you guys wrong??
@Silentheero:
Don't get it.... what is the difference to the way it is done?
We use any kind of slot (also the one you've posted will of course do) and any kind of microSD->ms pro duo adapter. this both soldered together and you're ready to go.
bye
Ali
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Not a problem with the way it is done. Just thinking of how to make it smaller and uniform. Using the bare socket you can easily make an enclosure that could fit onto the PSP.
Also I was speaking mostly to the ones wanting to internalize it, which is being worked on but not yet possible. https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=15459.0 (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=15459.0)
Great idea! Thanks for inspiring us to try it out. :clap:
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hi silentheero!
I see. But I wouldn't spent ~15$ for the slot only ;) - anyway it seems really pretty nice small...
Do you have an idea where to put it?
I searched around inside my psp, but didn't found a nice place... that's the reason why I want to try to modify the original slot, so it would read sd and ms pro duo. But that would be naturally much of an effort.
bye
Ali
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ok so i got a duo 512mb card thinking that the internals would be the same as the 2 gig u used as far as the exta points to soder the ide to but it doesnt so i took apart a duo to sd adapter and glued some plastic under it and turned it around. im going to soder ide to the other end but because im not useing a duo it dosent lock in so will the psp think there isnt a card in? so i need to soder something else too and in those diagrams that have spi diagrams it that what the duo in your mod is doing? so later when cf 16 gig prices go down can i wire my micro sd 512mb or duo 512mb as a translator?
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Hi folklord36!
I'm sorry, but I really can't follow your explanations... please use some line-breaks and give me some description of what you're talking about :)
What does the memory stick I have/had matter?
What do you mean with ide? (Is it probably the cable usually used to connect ide devices?)
What do you mean by an spi diagram? (I only know the bus...)
And for the CF issue: Don't know, but I think I remember, that there are some adapters for sd<->cf out there, so this would kinda work. But this would be a little bit unhandy, cause it will grow pretty much, I think.
Would be easier to go directly from CF->ms pro duo. But don't know if there are adapters around - but should be.
Anyway: SD doesn't take that much electrical power, so it won't suck down your battery and it is rather cheap, because it is used in 80% of all devices. (ok, maybe less than 80%, but pretty much ;))
So I don't think, that CF would really become an alternative. Specially when it is not used that much anymore, then they will push prices.
Btw. why do you want to use CF?
bye
Ali
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isn't a cf card just another name for a micro drive ?
if it is then there are adapters made specifically for the psp, if it isnt could you link me to a picture please
thanks
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yes :)
I only thought about some cheaper self-made possibilities
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Aliander- Ya the price is a bit much. Found this one without the board. http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=136# (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=136#) It's smaller and cheaper and would fit inside much easier. As for a place for it, I myself would scrap the UMD drive since I copy the games I own to iso. Although some will not want to do that.
I must admit that the only insides I have seen are online since I haven't had time to work on my own. That will change after I get my new soldering iron and the pieces I need. I will update you if I find a good spot for it.
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(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.tinypic.com%2F2eldpvk.jpg&hash=1648b23bf5fbc5e9f9d83a7ebe9fb1b22448aa74)
when i put this in it dose not lock in beacuse it dosent have the notch. will my psp think there is no card in it do i need to soder something to make it think there is a card in?
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi26.tinypic.com%2F1zdf03.jpg&hash=4edd4eaddb5216ee6fdd1e8ed4a8807bb89015f9)
my cards.left is a sandisk m2 adapter, middle micro sd sandisk m2,right sandisk 512mb msdp i also have a sandisk 4gb sdhc and a sony 2gb msdp
http://www.planetmobile.it/jumpjack/adattatore/pinout-eng.html (http://www.planetmobile.it/jumpjack/adattatore/pinout-eng.html)
spi pin outs are on here and have lables like slave and stuff idk what to make of it really
i have had my psp in pices now for 4 days as i cant solder to the adapter i mad any tips?
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What notch?
And what exactly is the problem?
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omfg (oh my fooking god)
that is what he did, but you mean if he put a female usb connection on the end he may be able to use any usb device
Thats what I meant, I've read PvP's work with the USB HDD ... still a work in progress for that one .... I meant using a Pro Duo USB Adapter Backwards to an open female USB end so instead of using a 16gb card use a USB thumb Drive or what ever else.
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what do u mean the, words in front of the question mark? Is my question how hard is that to understand reread my posts and if theres a question mark then im asking a question. I included pics i cant be any more specific but im just frustrated because i dont know what too do but i guess its my own fault but please reread my posts because i need help please and thank you
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Thats what I meant, I've read PvP's work with the USB HDD ... still a work in progress for that one .... I meant using a Pro Duo USB Adapter Backwards to an open female USB end so instead of using a 16gb card use a USB thumb Drive or what ever else.
i understood what you meant and im sure i pointed that out on a previous post or asked if that would works aswell, the problem would be that a female usb adapter has 4 pins and a casing making 5 connections, and the sd slot on the psp has 10 but if you managed to wire it correctly then i guess it could work but it would be difficult as there are more pins that need to have information sent down them which may not be possible but it should seen as he managed to wire an sd card reader to it all you would have to do is look how one of them is connected to the card reader and back wire it that way
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i understood what you meant and im sure i pointed that out on a previous post or asked if that would works aswell, the problem would be that a female usb adapter has 4 pins and a casing making 5 connections, and the sd slot on the psp has 10 but if you managed to wire it correctly then i guess it could work but it would be difficult as there are more pins that need to have information sent down them which may not be possible but it should seen as he managed to wire an sd card reader to it all you would have to do is look how one of them is connected to the card reader and back wire it that way
I'll give it a try ... I just gotta swing down by Compusa and get a a cheap usb pro duo adapter and I think I still have my original 32mb stick somewhere around ... I'll let u know how it goes in a few days ... I know they have male to male usb
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Hi folklord36!
Well, your english sucks like hell ;)
But here we go:
So you say, when you put in those loose contacts of an ms pro duo thingie the slot doesn't lock.
You can measure through what contacts of the slot are closed (something of the metal part, that is soldered down to the pcb) when you put in a normal ms-stick. there you would have to make some kind of switch for manually telling the psp that there is a new card...
At the moment I don't have an open psp here, so I can't test it out. But it shouldn't be too hard to figure out...
So, now you have the microSD -> mspd adapter lying open. no get a really flat cable (kynar maybe) and solder it straight to the pins where the microSD card would have been. when you're put it back together, maybe with a little glue.
now you need a slot for the SD/SDHC Card (direct soldering isn't really a good idea). got this one you just solder the cable now sticking out of the microSD->msdp adapter to the card slot. how to wire this exactly has been already tabled around the first pages of this thread.
I hoped this helps
bye
Ali
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what is the biggest compatible memcard for this? (Kinda looks goofy, but ok...)
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16GB
but 32 is on the go (should be already out, to be exactly)
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my micro sd to duo adapter dosent have a translatior in it there is no pcb with resistors and stuff its just a physical adapter. and the contacts are too small to solder to but i managed to get the pro duo to sd adapter with a wire on all 10 contacts. but i have no translator still. do i need a translator to make a sdhc card work or do i just split the ground and follow wire diagrams?
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Ok, for the guys asking about using the ms pro duo card slot to read a usb device. That is impossible to do without a chip that can request data from the the SD side of the adapter. You need a USBHost. The card reader that aliander is using is just used to hold the sd card. The same result could be had if you just wired directly to the sd cards pins. All the work is being done by the micro chip in the sd to ms pro duo. The card reader is doing nothing. A usbclient needs to be connected to a USBHost in order to communicate. To try and put it simply the USBHost has the ability to request data from a client however a client cannot request information from the host. The chips built in to a usbclient do not have the ability to request data from a host or a client. That's why trying to put a flashdrive to the ms pro duo slot will not work the chips on the usb reader can not request data from the SD side. So don't waste your money trying. And no a USB OTG will not work either it will try to read the PSP as a mass storage device. Of course more than likely you'll fry your psp attempting it.
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folklord, your problem is you are using a M2 adapter instead of a MicroSD adapter. The M2 is based off of Memory Stick technology which is what the MS Pro Duo is based off, hense the MS. Get a MicroSD adapter and it will work. You need a chip that can translate the data from MS to SD.
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where can i buy that memcard reader in the pics?
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Hi Jefesand!
Thanks for backup :)
Didn't know about the m2 ...
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No prob, you know how bored I get at work.
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hey people, i found places that you can buy everything. here they are:
flat cable:http://www.impactcomputers.com/p000363880.html (http://www.impactcomputers.com/p000363880.html)
card reader:http://www.hama.de/portal/articleId*125090/action*2563 (http://www.hama.de/portal/articleId*125090/action*2563)
adapter wi/ 1gb microsd:http://www.memoryx.net/tf1gbtr.html (http://www.memoryx.net/tf1gbtr.html)
i bought 16gb sdhc from ebay, but you can get here:
http://www.meritline.com/a-data-16gb-turbo-sdhc-flash-card.html (http://www.meritline.com/a-data-16gb-turbo-sdhc-flash-card.html)
PS: cost me $85 for all
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adapter wi/ 1gb microsd:http://www.memoryx.net/tf1gbtr.html (http://www.memoryx.net/tf1gbtr.html)
Man, I hate to tell you but that adapter is a MicroSD to SD, not MS Pro Duo.
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oopps, i bought it......
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ok plaease dose anyone know where to get a adapter that will do the same thing as the transend sd to pro duo adapter because i cant find it any where and i am not able to order online i need to buy it at a store?
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@folklord36:
So, that will be quite tricky to tell you a local store to get this adapter. Maybe we should find another way, when it's impossible for you to order something online.
Something like this: anybody here (maybe someone near you) orders it for you, you change money for adapter and you go modding :)
Well, where do you live?
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ya i can order online now im lookin for a good site to get it right now. fast delivey is important to me. I live in Florida
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hi folklord!
As I live in austria I'm know not much stores in america... simply searching "transcend microsd memory stick pro duo adapter" doesn't give you some locations to buy?
Because for me did...
Here is a list of stores in austria... but most likely this won't help you much, because it is in german :(
http://geizhals.at/a283994.html (http://geizhals.at/a283994.html)
maybe something in english:
http://www.asianproducts.com/product_7/Micro-SD-to_P11746189290874967.htm (http://www.asianproducts.com/product_7/Micro-SD-to_P11746189290874967.htm)
or simply buy over ebay. maybe you won't get one from transcend and I don't know how good the chinese stuff works, but I'm quite confident, that it's quite the same...
bye
Ali
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Hello everyone,
I recently acquired a PSP for the first time so I am new to the PSP world. I am still waiting on a 4GB Memory Stick to arrive so I can start messing with my PSP. My friend recommended me this board as we used to be into DS modifications but I'm starting to like the PSP better.
Anyway, I have been following this thread because having SD memory capability would be way way greater than having Memory Stick. I'm actually regretting spending 37 dollars on a measly 4GB of memory. After doing some random surfing this morning I came upon this link:
http://uanr.com/sdfloppy/ (http://uanr.com/sdfloppy/)
It seems as if you can 'plug' an SD card into a floppy connector and it makes for a simple SD 'reader' ready for soldering. Assuming these are compatible, this would remove the need for purchasing a SD card reader and wiring to connect the reader to the MicroSD-to-Memory Stick adapter, correct? Although, now that I think about it, it seems like SDHC might not be possible. Still would be a good introduction to this mod without having to buy all those supplies, though.
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hi autobulb!
This thingie simply acts as a SD card slot. Doesn't matter if SD or SDHC or anything else... does only connecting. So if you don't have a SD slot lying around, but a floppy connector you can of course use that (but it will use way more space of course...)
But you won't get around the adapter. Because you have to get something translating the communication between ms pro duo and sd.
And again: the card reader only acts as sd slot and does nothing else!
so you can also solder directly to the card... but that wouldn't be wise ;)
bye
Ali
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Woot! I just got my 16gb sd card and the card reader because it occured to me, if you have a card reader that readily accepts ms and sd like this http://www.memory.com/item.asp?item=TS-RDS6W (http://www.memory.com/item.asp?item=TS-RDS6W) when you wire a small switch to it, you keep your mspd and sd capabilities, and its small as well. Once I get the adapter, I am going to try and wire it beihind the wifi board, I heard there is a little bit of room there and just make a small hole in the shell. Thanks again aliander for finding this out! I'll post pictures when I am done.
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ok i orderd my translator card early this morn and paid extra for the shipping that takes 2 or 3 days so i can finaly use my psp again
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how would you wire it internally?
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how would you wire it internally?
Very carefully? haha, I plan to remove the UMD drive, so alot of room for wires can fit there, but I have kynar 30awg stuff, so I don't see it being massive, and the size of this multicard reader, I'm pretty sure it will fit, and if not, I'll mount it to the umd drive door.
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THINK THIS WOULD WORK?
(http://C:\Users\Family_2\Pictures\PSP_HD.jpg)
SRY, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PICS, BUT THINK IF YOU USE A USB CONNECTOR ON THE CARD READER, AND USING A USB TO 40 PIN IDE CONNECTOR, CONTECT THE CARD READER TO A TOSHIBA 1.8" HARD DRIVE, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO READ OF THE HD INTO YOUR PSP?
Very carefully? haha, I plan to remove the UMD drive, so alot of room for wires can fit there, but I have kynar 30awg stuff, so I don't see it being massive, and the size of this multicard reader, I'm pretty sure it will fit, and if not, I'll mount it to the umd drive door.
WOULD YOU STILL BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT THE ADAPTER?
PS CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO PUT A PICTURE FROM PAINT ONTO THIS SITE?
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I'm already make internal card-rider using great idea from aliander.
HERE (http://www.prozzak.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=81619) topik about this.
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Does anyone know how to make something like the Double Expand Memory thing for the PSP? You know, the one that can input two sd cards and be read as one entire drive? Something similar to that, but works with SDHC would be WAY better than any old hd. :laughing:
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how do you solder this to make it internal? arent you soldering to a mspd-sd adapter?
also, would my idea work?
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@ruffneck:
Looks damn great :D
At the moment I also do play with the idea of dumping the internal umd drive... maybe building up some external thingie for internal sd card reader (when SPI mode works as hardware mod only...)
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wait, fo you solder onto the mspd to sc adapter while it is in the slot to make it internal?
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Your a genius aliander. :D
U gave me a great idea now I can have both Datel HD and your MOD inside my PSP.
As soon as I can get 1 I will do something like this. :)
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SRY, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PICS, BUT THINK IF YOU USE A USB CONNECTOR ON THE CARD READER, AND USING A USB TO 40 PIN IDE CONNECTOR, CONTECT THE CARD READER TO A TOSHIBA 1.8" HARD DRIVE, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO READ OF THE HD INTO YOUR PSP?
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That won't work a usb client needs a usb host to funtion. The psp is a usb client and a usb to ide is a usb client too. And no it can't read a usb device through the memory card slot, not with out a chip that could translate the data between the memory card and the usb device.
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ok my adapter should come in tomarrow. i am still wondering if just leaveing my umd cables unpluged is the best way to remove umd drive ive herd that it makes ur psp run slow if u do ?
tip:if u cant find good wire to use cut a old usb wire and the wires inside are even smaller than ide cable and are different colored to make wireing esayer
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ok my adapter should come in tomarrow. i am still wondering if just leaveing my umd cables unpluged is the best way to remove umd drive ive herd that it makes ur psp run slow if u do ?
If you turn the umd auto-run to off you shouldn't have a problem.
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ya all that dose is make shure ur psp dosent freeze on boot with out a umd drive but when u launch a game even if ur in no umd mode ur umd rive spins and uses the laser and if u simply unplug the cables then the psp will wait for a response from the umd there for slowing load times im looking for a way around that
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Ah, did not know that. I don't think I've ever really noticed a difference when it wasn't attached.
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ok so im pretty shure i wired every thing right but when i power up i just get a rapid blinking light and the psp says no mem stick inserted.
anyone else have the same prob?
know what i might have done wrong?
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Look if it is write protected!! (the sd card of course)
I had the same symptoms when at the first try :)
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anyone see eror in my wireing?
order from pin 1-4 is white ,red, green, black then repeated for 4-8
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Hi!
Tape the wires you soldered to the adapter. Maybe you produce some shortcuts?
But I didn't looked closely at the pics for now...
EDIT: Could you give me a close-up of the sd card slot soldering?
And did you check write protection of the sd card as I mentionend in my last post?
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no it wasnt the switch i just bought some 30 gauge wire from radioshack so im rewireing it now with that.
it was weird though after a while with it blinking fast it slowed doen and would not stop un less i power off
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soo.. to make it internal, you just solder the adapter as usual, and then you put the wires in between the daughter board and the case?
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yes i was able to internalize it this way closed the psp 100% but it didnt work.
prob a short i just cant solder the mem card good enoughf and im scared i might heat damage my 1 and only adapter.
i cant find a sharper tip at radioshack im going to file the tip down right now
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Thanks for the assurance aliander!
I was worried if the adapter could translate SDHC data or not.
But if a 16gb SDHC will work, in theory a micro SDHC should work.
Owh well, I'm gonna risk $55 for a 8gb micro SDHC to see if this
works.
Owh, in terms of speed, is your 16gb SD a Class6? That might
help.
At those speeds you're showing us, we'd probably need to run
uncompressed ISOs for acceptable loading/gaming. CSO compressions
might be irritating with those read/write.
Did you test the card and adaptor yet? Because I also was looking to buy 8gb Micro SDHC and MS Pro DUO Adaptor and use it with DAX's latest custom firmware. But I can't seem to find anything on the net that says DAX"s latest CFW can support SDHC.
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Well, if it works with 16gb SDHC SD Cards, it should also work with 8GB SDHC microSD Cards - I guess ;)
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What about transfer speed? Is it equal to MS Pro Duo? I want to use SDHC card or 2GB ultra speed SD card. Also I want to put another slot in the case but not in the UMD case. Is it possible?
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Look through the thread. There are measurements of the speed. (Just on the first page as also later on)
Second Slot: Well, I didn't found a place for it... But have good luck!
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has anyone internalized this yet?
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ok could someone test their adapter with a multi meter and tell me the read outs of each pin with out the sd card in.
i ad to have heat damaged my adapter because i ve re wired this thing 4 times with different wire each time. the last time i used 30 gauge radioshack wire and i filed my soldering iron tip to abot 1/4 original size and solderd the adapter made shure their was no shorts and put hot glue aroud the conections to make shure they didnt touch and i got the same result i give up on the internal version for now im puting psp together now to test it externaly and make shure my pro duo still works
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I have an Idea, I just haven't had the time to do it. Instead of making this mod internal. How about grab a PSP Double Expand and wire the microSD to ms pro duo inside the double expand. Yes you'll lose the ability to use both slots, but who cares the max it can read is 4GB officially and 8GB unofficially.
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Hi, this one really cached me, so, basically what you did was bought a "MicroSD > MSProduo Adapter" and then BUILD your own "SD > MicroSD > MSProduo Adapter-Adapter" (witch was only solder some wires), then just plug your obscene huge (in capacity) SD into the microSD slot and then plug it into the PSP's slot ?
(SD inside MicroSD inside MSproduo)
So, If I just buy this one Adapter with memory (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transcend-2GB-MicroSD-TFlash-W-Memory-Stick-MS-Pro-Duo_W0QQitemZ380000734507QQihZ025QQcategoryZ118260QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) I would have a simple 2gb microSD memory inside the MS pro duo slot? (just curiosity of the simplicity of this, not that I'm going to do the whole stuff just to get 2gb)
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I just wired up my adapter and reader, regular sd and micro sd work, but the sdhc wont read. It only flashes a bunch when I turn on the psp, then slows the flash, i went as far as to format the card on the pc but nothing...any ideas?
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http://techawave.jitbid.com/techawave/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=111337&zenid=b3366bc88703adfc3222272ad399f6be (http://techawave.jitbid.com/techawave/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=111337&zenid=b3366bc88703adfc3222272ad399f6be)
is that the one u have i have that 1 and it wont read my sdhc dose the same thing as yours
i dont have a normal sd to test
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no, mine is from http://www.superufo.com/product_html/PC_Computer_MICRO_SD_TO_MS_PRO_DUO_ADAPTOR.html (http://www.superufo.com/product_html/PC_Computer_MICRO_SD_TO_MS_PRO_DUO_ADAPTOR.html)
I'm afraid I'll have to dish out and get the trancend one...blarg
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ya the cheap-o ones prob dont suppourt sdhc. wow i went trough a lot of time and money fo nothin so far and i wont give up till it works and is internal.i allredy bought 6 4gb sdhc cards and took my umd drive out as my umd door hinge is half broke and i cant ply umds unless i like tape up the door.and i only have 3 umds and 23 "aquired" isos, so a umd dive is worthless to me but massive amounts of internal memory is priceless. guess i better order a transend should done that from the start its my fault for being cheap i guess lol.
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I just wired up my adapter and reader, regular sd and micro sd work, but the sdhc wont read. It only flashes a bunch when I turn on the psp, then slows the flash, i went as far as to format the card on the pc but nothing...any ideas?
What firmware are you running? I think only 3.8 (might be 3.7) can actually address more than 4 gigs of memory.
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I wanted the transend one from the start, I just couldn't find it. As for firmware, thats what I thought at first, and I upgraded to 3.80 m33-5. But it did the same thing on both firmwares, the crazy memstick light flashing. I was using 3.71 m33-2
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Those Transcend ones are hard to find... especially since I'm in Japan. Since those Transcend cards have been known to work those are the only one's I wanted to try for this mod.
Luckily I have a family member coming from the States to visit me here, so I found a decently priced US retailer, did some fast shipping to the person visiting me so i should get 2 cards next week... including 2 micro SD cards. :tup:
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I've been looking around through out other forums and sites and found this lil thing http://www.shopmania.co.uk/shopping~online-memory-cards~buy-peak-4gb-micro-sdhc-class-6-ms-pro-duo-adapter-ret~p-1889658.html but after cost + shipping it likes $60.00+ I've heard rumors of sony coming out with 16GB Pro duo card in march ... so i think I'll wait till then. unless some cool cleaner mod comes around.
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hello
thank's aliander
i do my modification with this kingmax adapter
http://www.internity.fr/adaptateur-kingmax-microsd-vers-pro-duo-p-5181.html (http://www.internity.fr/adaptateur-kingmax-microsd-vers-pro-duo-p-5181.html)
yes i'm french...
you can buy, any brands, this kind of adapter have always a pcb inside it :)
mine is internally, without removing the umd reader,
it's a litlle bit complicated...
thank's again aliander
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Can I use SDHC cards? They are much cheaper than MSPD, especially 16GB ones. Is 16GB SDHC recognized by PSP? And the last question, Are there any read speed limitations? SDHC has got about 18MB/s read speed, it's similiar to MSPD.
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Wow, you should really read the post before asking questions like that. But i'll give you a hint , its all addressed.
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Ok I've got answers. So, we can use SDHC cards but adapter limits it to about half speed. What about Mem Stick in PSP speed?
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:censored: i cant get my hands on a micro sd to ms pro duo adapter. I have every other part noooo... will this work with a mini sd to ms pro duo adapter? :dntknw:
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wow i need that lol :clap:
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Hi guys!
@hdx:
Look through the thread. Just on the first page I've done some measurements and also later on are some (with pics - so not to fail ;))
@ghost_death:
no, won't work
miniSD and SD Cards do use the same protocol for communication. But MS Pro Duo doesn't. That's why we need to translate it some how and that is what the adapter does for us.
Where do you live?
Someone will send you one?
bye
Ali
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ok dose any one have a link to buy the transend sdhc adapter preferably without a micro card? that ships to the usa with fast delivey
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hey thx for replying yer i live in New Zealand i would be willing if someone lived somewhere near to paypal them some money for a transend adapter.
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Here are some german sources - maybe you could do also get one with some (online) dictionary :)
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a283991.html (http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a283991.html)
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a283994.html (http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a283994.html)
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a284003.html (http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a284003.html)
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Can someone please draw me up a diagram to add a 2nd slot with switch to control back n' fourth between 2 sd slots?
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thats great man! i might do this mod internally
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i love this mod
here its the link for the PEAK microSDHC Card + MS Pro Duo Adapter
so now there wont be any problem with microSDHC
http://www.peakhardware.com/products/productdetail.asp?Id=363&A=2&B=3&C=54 (http://www.peakhardware.com/products/productdetail.asp?Id=363&A=2&B=3&C=54)
Price like 18- 23 EUR
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moontrap
Thanks for the quick response!
I am also going to try to make an internal mod probably located on the battery cover, maybe some bondo or fibreglass can give it the built in look. But I dont want to risk my UMD drive, after all its great for coming friends game discs HehE!!!
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I've gone through two adapters now. Now the adapters wont even get recognized in windows anymore... :fear:
More over...since it seems all these adapters hang out in europe...what are the odds someone is able to get just the adapter? I've seen the peak sdhc adapter. I'd buy it since alot of websites wont ship to the US. Heck, I'd pay someone to pre solder it, sadly I think I fried both my previous ones.
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hello
if they are no recognized...
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look the continuity of this two resistor with a multimeter.
if there is no "BEEEEP" change the resistor by another one in good condition.
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If you just hate soldering. Heres a sd to microsd adaptor http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html.
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and theres also this thing here too
http://asukal.net/blog/?p=284
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http://www.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad/psp/doubleexp.htm
i found this not sure if it works or not, but not to sure about the site but just a heads up for all you non soldering savy people or who are too lazy you can buy one its $19 usd
and also since i never play my psp without a handle im gonan make the mod internal but in the handle not in the psp so i can still take it to schoolad use the regular memory stick, but hope eevryone can get this mod to work.
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I am trying to make a mod for having two mem sticks and i am pretty sure this diagram won't work. I have tested it without any good result and now i am going in other directions. I am supposing you want to have both sticks inserted at the same time and switch between them with the switch.
If that is the case this won't work since pin INS is always grounded and psp won't be able to recognize that you have changed the stick.
If not, and you don't care to be able to have just one stick inside at the same time, you don't need the switch for anything.
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hi
The first drawing is a summary of the discussion :drunk:
you have to put the line 6 and 9 on a micro switch two way... :boxed:
Edit:
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Well, that could work, i haven't tested that so i can't say it won't.
But you can't be sure it will work until you test it, unless you can say that a memory stick without just INS and VCC has all of its pins in a High State Impedance and i am not pretty sure of that.
If it is not in HSI (high state impedance) you can see that the lines going from the psp to the memories will find two ways ( the two sticks) and therefore you would need that the sinking-current, for example, of the DATA[0:3] were capable of supplying twice the current it supplies when only one memory stick is inserted.The same for the rest of the pins.
May be the PSP memory stick driver is capable of doing that (supply double current)but, you also need that the memory stick itself were capable of supplying more current too, as far is the DATA,SCLK, etc. from de MS to the PSP will find also two ways ( the PSP and the other memory stick/SD ) and sure this is less probable.
I could continue on saying things against doing this kind of mod that way, but you never know, may be you do this your way and it works, but that is quite difficult.
If you want to be sure that this work try eight switches :wacko: other ways until you test it and prove the opposite, these diagrams are useless.
I am looking now at the pinout of the SD on your picture, and i see that the INS pin in a SD (CD/DAT3) is also used for data. I think the one who made this mod asked before an issue with the speed, that could be a reason, you are not using that data line as far as you have to put there INS. I don't know may be looking at the protocol of an SD will help and may be it is possible to simulate an INS pin with the help of a switch and put in the CD/DAT3 pin a real data line of the psp, DATA3 for example.
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utility of this kind of diagram? with this drawing, you doesn't have to read all the topic, to having an idea of the job we have to done...or what can we done to make it better.
without this kind of info, no quick reflexion...no quick suggestion.
and if you have another solution in the futur, you can do a drawing for us.
that's a great help too, for all peoples who not speaking english.
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I think you misunderstood me. I didn't pretend to bother you with my words, I just was trying to say that unless you are absolutely sure that diagram will work you should advice that although theoritically it seems right, you can't ensure it works, or you can ask people for review it.
Sure you agree with me that if you find in a forum a diagram that explains how to do something, you spend some hours doing it in your psp and then it doesn't work, you would feel disappointed with the one who posted the diagram as way of doing whatever.
I have spent many hours trying to make this mod, i think that now i am closed to finish it but i am not even sure that it will work, theoritically i think it should, but i am not sure. If i get it i will explain how to do it although i think it won't be very interesting because it is quite difficult to do it and i am not sure that having two memory sticks worth it.
So i am sorry if my words bother you, i didn't pretend to. Also i appreciate your diagrams as far as they are very clear and i am sure that you have spent time on them.
Once i have said all of this I would prefer to discuss about a real way of doing the mod, taking in count the protocols of the memories and how they work. For example, i have tried to find the voltage info of the pins ( data, sclk,etc) and i only know the voltage of the theoritical VCC ( 2,7-3,6 ) i don't even know which voltage supplies the psp by pin VSS. Also it would be very interesting to know if all the memory stick uses parallel interface to communicate the psp or only high speed memory sticks use it, and things like that.
So if you are very interested in doing this mod i invite you to start a deeper study of all the stuff necessary to make it.
Cheers
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I still can't find a decent microsd to mspd....I am afriad to order another transcend from hong kong...any ideas?
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Well mine sure isn't working, after some googleing I got a quick question to all the people that didn't get it to work:
What sizes were the SD cards you were testing with?
Since this post is kinda... confusing if you know what I mean
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/636290#3893655 (http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/636290#3893655)
His one doesn't work with regulair sizes but works with a 8 gb sdhc, now maybe there is hope for us :3
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Honestly, i don't know what to think about that post, since the guy used a different adapter than the generic one all over ebay and the transcend one, AND he didn't try to hook it up to the full sd but just microsd. with the generic adapter, i could get it to read full sized sd, but not sdhc, and the transcend one didn't work at all. (if I had a camera I would take pictures of a few other differences) But the transcend has an extra microcontroller on the adapter than the generic. And I think I killed the transcend one with head.
I am going to get another transcend one since thats what aliander is using and I am going to hardwire the sd adapter to a micro sd card as to avoid burning up the adapter. Unless we have another person who sucessfully got the adapter working and can tell us what mspd adapter they used. for sdhc.
PS I just ordered the card for semons or whatever. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Hey guys, I'm new here, well kinda, I registered a while ago but this is my first post, but anyways back to the subject, I got this to work a few weeks ago, it took some trial and error but now it works just fine. I tried three different micro sd to mspd adapters and the one that worked the best is the Transcend one, but let me start from the beginning. The first adapter that I bought was <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/MicroSD-Micro-SD-Memory-Card-to-MS-Pro-Duo-Adapter-NEW_W0QQitemZ150227572739QQihZ005QQcategoryZ50526QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262" target="_blank">this one[/url], I couldn't format it with the PSP, so I had to format it with my pc and then copied the files from one of my MSPD cards, only my fat PSPs could detect the card though, and it stopped working after two weeks for no apparent reason. The second one I bought was <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ET-Memory-Stick-MS-Pro-Duo-Adapter-for-MicroSD-at-Store_W0QQitemZ270029672225QQihZ017QQcategoryZ15215QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262" target="_blank">this one[/url], and it didn't work at all, so after looking for a while I finally found some Transcend adapters at www.datamemorysystems.com/ (http://www.datamemorysystems.com/) and www.memory.com/ (http://www.memory.com/), I bought one from each place and they work great, I'm even able to format the 16gig SDHC card with my PSPs, fats and slims.
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GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!! The adapter from semons or whatever works beautifully!!!! Infact, it is even easier to solder!. If you get it thuogh, be warned, the entire top is not removable, just the area where the microsd goes and you still have to sorta rip the plastic, but nothing hot glue can't fix....Again, wonderful!
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Someone made it work with a 16GB SD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXevpFDz8dQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXevpFDz8dQ)
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Correct me if I'm wrong. I can see on this video that transfers aren't bad. It's slower than original MSPD but it's ok. It is faster than UMD, isn't it?
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Correct me if I'm wrong. I can see on this video that transfers aren't bad. It's slower than original MSPD but it's ok. It is faster than UMD, isn't it?
It will always be faster,either being an SDHC or Micro SD.
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Sadly, I can't find the read speed of umds, but I haven't had any problems with mine. The only problem I have is when I compress anything, other than that, I run things full speed, and if anything does lag, its only been at startup. But its definately worth it.
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If it's faster than UMD [I hope it is], It will be worth doing. I'm looking for Transcend Adapter and 16GB SDHC Card. I haven't got MSPD so I will buy SDHC. I don't play very often and It's good way for me.
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Not sure if this is a dead thread or not and i wasn't sure if someone had already posted somethin on it, but i tried one of these out http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html). So far, with a 2gb SD 40 x speed stick my friend has for his camera, it works fine with the Transcend microSd to MS Pro Dou adapter i got. I like this setup, no soldering, but kinda expensive this http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html) cost almost $39. Still waitin to order my 16gb SDHC (payday is comin soon), i will post when i got all of it workin together
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hey please post as soon as you find out if thats sdhc compatible if ur 16 gig works in it please post so i can buy one
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Not sure if this is a dead thread or not and i wasn't sure if someone had already posted somethin on it, but i tried one of these out http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html). So far, with a 2gb SD 40 x speed stick my friend has for his camera, it works fine with the Transcend microSd to MS Pro Dou adapter i got. I like this setup, no soldering, but kinda expensive this http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html) cost almost $39. Still waitin to order my 16gb SDHC (payday is comin soon), i will post when i got all of it workin together
thats actually a great idea. took me a while to understand but its pretty much http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html) and http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-MicroSD-Memory-Card-SD-Mem-Stick-PRO-Duo-adapter_W0QQitemZ270228489055QQihZ017QQcategoryZ18871QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-MicroSD-Memory-Card-SD-Mem-Stick-PRO-Duo-adapter_W0QQitemZ270228489055QQihZ017QQcategoryZ18871QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
right?
that can easily become internal and done clean. if it works omg i might do it but its probably cheaper to just buy a memory stick pro duo.
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SDHC to microSD adapter = about $39 incl shipping
http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html)
Transcend 1gb microSD card w/ microSD to MSPD = about $20
16gb SDHC card = about $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+(Flash+Memory)-_-A-DATA-_-20211245 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+(Flash+Memory)-_-A-DATA-_-20211245)[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size]
Approx. total = $120
Versus
16gb Memory Stick Pro Duo = $220
http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=A00HC6&src=FG (http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=A00HC6&src=FG)
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SDHC to microSD adapter = about $39 incl shipping
http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html (http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html)
Transcend 1gb microSD card w/ microSD to MSPD = about $20
16gb SDHC card = about $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+(Flash+Memory)-_-A-DATA-_-20211245 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+(Flash+Memory)-_-A-DATA-_-20211245)[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size]
Approx. total = $120
Versus
16gb Memory Stick Pro Duo = $220
http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=A00HC6&src=FG (http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=A00HC6&src=FG)
GREAT now someone please find out if it works so i can go ahead and do it =]
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did anybody try this adapter?
http://cgi.ebay.com/microSD-Memory-Stick-4G-4GB-8G-8GB-MS-Pro-Duo-adapter_W0QQitemZ320238948091QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/microSD-Memory-Stick-4G-4GB-8G-8GB-MS-Pro-Duo-adapter_W0QQitemZ320238948091QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
or does it even matter?
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it could but might have a 8 gig cap on it like the neo things just get the same model it sucks im just ordering mine tomarrow
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did anybody try this adapter?
http://cgi.ebay.com/microSD-Memory-Stick-4G-4GB-8G-8GB-MS-Pro-Duo-adapter_W0QQitemZ320238948091QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/microSD-Memory-Stick-4G-4GB-8G-8GB-MS-Pro-Duo-adapter_W0QQitemZ320238948091QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
or does it even matter?
I wouldn't get that one, it says that that adapter is not able to format the SDHC card with the PSP, just get a Transcend adapter, they are cheap and you can format the card with the PSP. I bought my adapters with a 1 gb micro SD card from http://www.datamemorysystems.com (http://www.datamemorysystems.com) for $11.95 each.
http://www.datamemorysystems.com/_memory-information/MICRO_SECURE_DIGITAL_CARD_DM55_0964-3.asp (http://www.datamemorysystems.com/_memory-information/MICRO_SECURE_DIGITAL_CARD_DM55_0964-3.asp)
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Finally made it internal =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AErCwrVk4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AErCwrVk4)
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Finally made it internal =)
Oh my god. Thats is CRAZY! I need to try it out. How did u make it fit?
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Can you post pictured of guts? It's crazy. Finally, I need to make one for me.
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Hmm I had it internal like that since a good 2 month :P
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Finally made it internal =)
im guessing its ok to remove the mspd slot completely right? im kinda scared because on the slim the slot is connected to the mobo. but its ok to do so in order to make it internal like that right? ty =]
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Finally made it internal =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AErCwrVk4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AErCwrVk4)
Hello,
This is a very good job :o
can you make a mini tutorial please because i want too make it :P
Thx
qu3nt1n
Ps:Sorry for my bad english i'm french ;D
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Hello!
Yes a little tutoriel please
The finally work is very nice and interesting.
Thx
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The mod is self-explanatory, there is no need for a tutorial
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yes but i don't understand where weld the pins.
In the WIfi card the ms pro duo player have 10pins but the sd player have 8 pins.
I just want a detailed image .
Thank you.
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From the fact you called soldering welding, I don't think you should do this mod yet. Go for something easier first
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I know welded I put leds as well as chips on consoles.
It is for it that I want to make this mod.
Thank you
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what VoX was trying to say was that it's actually called soldering not "welding", and that if you didn't have previous modding and soldering experience it would be difficult for you to do this mod
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ok if u look back like 2 pages in this thread there is a graphic that tells you everything you would need to know for this mod. also
yes but i don't understand where weld the pins.
In the WIfi card the ms pro duo player have 10pins but the sd player have 8 pins.
I just want a detailed image .
Thank you.
from that i can tell you didnt research at all u cant just solder on new reader u need an adapter between them and the sd has one more pin than the micro sd witch is the adapter you will use so you just bridge the ground pin on the new reader to the other ground on reader they are the same
but keep moding till you are confident you can do this thats all they were saying and its obvious english isnt your first language so maybe learn to speak it a lil better befor posting on a domonantly english website :tup:
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Are you doing this mod just to do it, or do you need it ?
I just bought three adapters from DXExtreme for $7.00 each.
They are the size of a pro duo card and the sdhc card just plugs into it and it just plugs into the PSP.
Also there is a release of a new pro duo adapter in Japan ( We have someone there trying to get a bunch of them )
that allows you to plug 2 sdhc cards into an adapter the size of a pro duo card allowing you to put up to
64 gig of memory in the PSP.
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Yes i saw the graphic but i've not not all inclusive.
If i've good understand I must buy an adaptater for this mod.
And if it possible , the people who made the mod , to make for me a picture of her wifi card?
Thank
PS:Hum i'm sorry for my english :wacko:. i'm frensh :tup:
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Are you doing this mod just to do it, or do you need it ?
I just bought three adapters from DXExtreme for $7.00 each.
They are the size of a pro duo card and the sdhc card just plugs into it and it just plugs into the PSP.
Also there is a release of a new pro duo adapter in Japan ( We have someone there trying to get a bunch of them )
that allows you to plug 2 sdhc cards into an adapter the size of a pro duo card allowing you to put up to
64 gig of memory in the PSP.
yeaa its made buy photofast or something like that. let me know if those dx adapters are legit like the transcend adapters. i already bought like 4 transcend adapters all with 2gb ahah i ended up having sd adapters to so i can still use the 2gb micro sd's =]
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Are you doing this mod just to do it, or do you need it ?
I just bought three adapters from DXExtreme for $7.00 each.
They are the size of a pro duo card and the sdhc card just plugs into it and it just plugs into the PSP.
Also there is a release of a new pro duo adapter in Japan ( We have someone there trying to get a bunch of them )
that allows you to plug 2 sdhc cards into an adapter the size of a pro duo card allowing you to put up to
64 gig of memory in the PSP.
but with such high capacity sdhc would you not experience lag whilst playing games off the memory card (umd's that you own that have been backed up as ISO's)?
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Yes i saw the graphic but i've not not all inclusive.
If i've good understand I must buy an adaptater for this mod.
And if it possible , the people who made the mod , to make for me a picture of her wifi card?
Thank
PS:Hum i'm sorry for my english :wacko:. i'm frensh :tup:
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this is all you NEEED maybe you should read the whole thread before you do this. it would be smart to get all the information and possibilities by reading instead of extending the thread.
but with such high capacity sdhc would you not experience lag whilst playing games off the memory card (umd's that you own that have been backed up as ISO's)?
yeaa you would i know for sure.. i already get lag with 16gb. just reading the memory stick and loading things from it. game play seems fine.
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ya its slighly slower but can only be measured in kb per second of transfer rate and it plays iso fine i run g.o.w on my sdhc and i get no lag.
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sir instead of removing the usb from the card reader can i connect the usb port into a two sided female port then on the other side ill connect another usb device . can this be a posibility ?
Micro sd to ms pro duo (trancend) -> card reader -> usb port of card reader -> double sided female usb port <- usb flash disk or hdd
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NO the hdd isn't the same format as the ms
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can a flash disk work?
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Flash Disk? As in a CF Card? You can run anything as long as you can convert it into SD signals
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http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=unknown&sbrftog=1&dfsp=32&satitle=micro+SD+TF+to+MS+Pro+Duo+Memory+Stick+Adapter+Fit+PSP&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sadis=200&fpos=L5M5K3&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&sass=abc1478963&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2&fgtp=
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http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=017775&cid=990.218.675
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I used a poor choice of wire running from the MSPD Slot to the conversion card, they kept shorting on the metal barrier, so I tried wrapping them in tape.... didn't help much, so I removed them to replace and burned my conversion chip taking the wires off... damnit :(
not to mention I also glued the socket right in the way of the UMD door...... but hey, it works! That image posted a few pages back helped greatly, thanks!
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Hi guys, ive been keeping my eye on this thread for a while, im just woundering if someone would be kind to enough to answer one question,
im currently thinking of doing this, i have the memorystick duo reader from a camcorder and the sd card reader from another broken camera, the only thing that ive not currently got is the ms pro duo to microsd adapter, i just want to use the normal sd cards, could i wire this strait to psp card reader inside without having to use this microsd adadpter or is it vital to the working of this mod?
hope somone can answer my quesition, thanks to anyone who replys
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No it would have to have the micro sd to pro duo to change over the signals.
It wouldn't work and people have already answered this is you read the tread like you said you where. :victory:
But,
Welcome to AM
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thanks for bumping an accent thread with a dumb :censored: question i hate when ppl say there is no such thing as a dumb question because i just read a prime example. yes you need the mspd to sdhc adapter YOU CAN NOT just wire the reader to the wifi slot 2 different data protocols this question was asked in this thread several times and if you had even basic electronics understanding you would know you need an adapter or if you were to look at the huge diagram you would know you need an adapter if you were to read just the slightest bit of this thread instead of just posting without reading any of it you would know you need an adapter. hope that helps you understand why you cant just solder the adapter on and teaches you that we get really pissed off when people break the rules of our forum and don't do your own research and ask dumb :censored: questions in really old threads. Welcome to Acidmods a place to share your research and projects and help others with theirs! :tup: have fun and word to the wise this is a really hard mod hope you are good at soldering!
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hey i was wondering if this would work
would it be possible to split the connections between 2 SD readers and throw in 2 32gb SD cards...
i have 2 32gb cards for my camera and i would love to test this.
basically splice in the 2 sd readers into the mini-sd to pro duo reader and have it work the same way
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NO no and No.
Not that simple only one can work at a time and the interface
can only see one card load at a time so it has to be buffered.
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This is why I quit posting. Nobody reads or understands anything I say.
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Hey, wouldnt this also work?
http://www.psphacking101.com/node/15 (http://www.psphacking101.com/node/15)
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well considering those guys have a POC of it working........... :eyebrow: and the fact that MSPD and MS run under the same protocalls witch has been discussed in this thread several times if you would have searched before posting in an old topc you would know that :faint:
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Yea dude do your research or at least post a new topic. This thread keeps getting brought back to life..
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From the fact you called soldering welding, I don't think you should do this mod yet. Go for something easier first
Technically speaking, soldering is a form of welding.
weld 1
(wěld) Pronunciation Key
v. weld·ed, weld·ing, welds
v. tr.
1. To join (metals) by applying heat, sometimes with pressure and sometimes with an intermediate or filler metal having a high melting point.
2. To bring into close association or union.
I have read all nine pages of this thread, I am very surprised that nobody has made a writeup on placing the SD slot into a UMD less UMD drive space.
I know i'm not the only one that has more than one psp, and I know that I am not the only one that never uses UMDs. When I do buy games, I rip the ISO off of them trim the dummy/update data, put onto my memstick and then place the umd on my shelf.
I have been thinking about the photofast cr-3100, but the only desire I have for this is if, and only if it can be stuffed into the UMD drive area. I have absolutely zero desire to keep that thing on the back.
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well considering those guys have a POC of it working........... :eyebrow: and the fact that MSPD and MS run under the same protocalls witch has been discussed in this thread several times if you would have searched before posting in an old topc you would know that :faint:
I did do my research and that is exactly why i posted that comment:
This mod shows that you can use an SD(HC) card on your PSP by using an microsd-produo adapter.
The video shows the same thing being done without a converter, but just a cut op produo card.
They didnt show SDHC cards though, probably because they didnt exist yet when the video was made:P
So my question was: "wouldnt this also work?" (as in: wouldnt this also make it possible for you to use sdhc cards on your psp.)
And so what if this has been asked before, you expect everyone who has a question regarding the first post to first read the entire thread before asking?
What if this was a 40-page thread, you expect every person so first read through 40 pages because someone may have asked that question before?
And as for posting in als old topic: the last post was also in september, so people arent allowed to post in a thread after a couple of weeks?
And also my question was directed at this mod, this topic, why would I create a new thread if im am just goin to ask a question about THIS mod?
but back to the point, So the mod decribed in the video would have the same results as this one discussed here and would also work with SDHC?
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Guys.... this mod has been obsolete since the introduction of the photofast CR-3100 and CR-5400 in cost and upgrade ability. Stop wasting your time in buying cheap azz card readers and duo adapters that still wont have the performance of the photofast products. By the time you pay for all your parts/shipping handling you will exceed the cost of the CR-5400 or worse yet, fry your PSP..!
if you want to internalize the CR-3100 then read this thread...
http://www.pspmod.com/forums/hardware/40368-internalizing-my-photofast-cr-3100-a.html
It is very easy to do and no soldering required..!
If you are still scared about opening up your PSP then purchase the CR-5400. 8gig are the biggest in the microsd form factor so you are limited to a max of 16gigs compared to 32gig with the CR-3100 mod. 16gig MicroSD cards will hit the market with in a couple more weeks.
THe CR-3100 sells for $48 USD and the CR-5400 sells for $25 USD..
You can buy them at shopdigi.com
-peace!
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Guys.... this mod has been obsolete since the introduction of the photofast CR-3100 and CR-5400 in cost and upgrade ability. Stop wasting your time in buying cheap azz card readers and duo adapters that still wont have the performance of the photofast products. By the time you pay for all your parts/shipping handling you will exceed the cost of the CR-5400 or worse yet, fry your PSP..!
if you want to internalize the CR-3100 then read this thread...
http://www.pspmod.com/forums/hardware/40368-internalizing-my-photofast-cr-3100-a.html
It is very easy to do and no soldering required..!
If you are still scared about opening up your PSP then purchase the CR-5400. 8gig are the biggest in the microsd form factor so you are limited to a max of 16gigs compared to 32gig with the CR-3100 mod. 16gig MicroSD cards will hit the market with in a couple more weeks.
THe CR-3100 sells for $48 USD and the CR-5400 sells for $25 USD..
You can buy them at shopdigi.com
-peace!
Wanker.
The parts to make this arent 48$, more like 10$ so obvisoly alot cheaper. And the max is the 32 gb card.
Also, azz isnt a word ass is. And that is what you are my friend.
I hate people like you.
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1st...Jumbo i hope you are not as stupid as your avatar looks because if you were to re-read my post i never said $48... I said exceeding the cost of the CR-5400 which sells for $25..
2nd...i can tell someone wasn't paying attention in math class because by the time you buy, USB card reader, ribbon cable, duo adapter, solder gun, solder, electrical tape and shipping/handling perhaps gas if you have to go to Radio shack you would already exceed way beyond $10... :whoosh:
3rd... MicroSD current max size 8gig. 16gig Micro cards are on the way as i clearly stated... SDHC current largest size available is 32gig..
CR-5400 current mem capacity is 16gig with the potential to go 32gig with the use of 2\16gig micro SD cards once they are available..
CR-3100 currently can go 32gig with the potential to go as high 64gig once a firmware is supported.
So hate all you want because anyone who has at least two brain cells working knows that using the single SD card mod will limit you to one card. CR-3100 can double that with out the need of any soldering or shorting out your psp. :#1:
school is over...
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I did do my research and that is exactly why i posted that comment:
This mod shows that you can use an SD(HC) card on your PSP by using an microsd-produo adapter.
The video shows the same thing being done without a converter, but just a cut op produo card.
They didnt show SDHC cards though, probably because they didnt exist yet when the video was made:P
So my question was: "wouldnt this also work?" (as in: wouldnt this also make it possible for you to use sdhc cards on your psp.)
And so what if this has been asked before, you expect everyone who has a question regarding the first post to first read the entire thread before asking?
What if this was a 40-page thread, you expect every person so first read through 40 pages because someone may have asked that question before?
And as for posting in als old topic: the last post was also in september, so people arent allowed to post in a thread after a couple of weeks?
And also my question was directed at this mod, this topic, why would I create a new thread if im am just goin to ask a question about THIS mod?
but back to the point, So the mod decribed in the video would have the same results as this one discussed here and would also work with SDHC?
no for the last time is dose not use the same protocalls an MS stick witch is used in the video you linked(and only card used in that video as its the only card that can directly connect without an adapter SD cards have been around wayyyyy longer than PSP.... ) to uses same protocalls as MSPD SDHC uses completely diffrent protocalls therefore you need an adapter or some kind of hardware to translate dont you think its there for a reason I mean come on if it was possible to just directly wire wouldnt you think we would be doing that in the first place?. No I do not expect you to read the whole thread maybe just skim trough it and search function? :eyebrow: and yes it was posted in recently but it is all just spam like your post from ppl who cant research and we have been asking to stop bumping it with useless unrelated or stupid comments.
1st...Jumbo i hope you are not as stupid as your avatar looks because if you were to re-read my post i never said $48... I said exceeding the cost of the CR-5400 which sells for $25..
2nd...i can tell someone wasn't paying attention in math class because by the time you buy, USB card reader, ribbon cable, duo adapter, solder gun, solder, electrical tape and shipping/handling perhaps gas if you have to go to Radio shack you would already exceed way beyond $10... :whoosh:
3rd... MicroSD current max size 8gig. 16gig Micro cards are on the way as i clearly stated... SDHC current largest size available is 32gig..
CR-5400 current mem capacity is 16gig with the potential to go 32gig with the use of 2\16gig micro SD cards once they are available..
CR-3100 currently can go 32gig with the potential to go as high 64gig once a firmware is supported.
So hate all you want because anyone who has at least two brain cells working knows that using the single SD card mod will limit you to one card. CR-3100 can double that with out the need of any soldering or shorting out your psp. :#1:
school is over...
first of all MR perfect you are wrong you are just bashing jumbo for no reason I sense you have some kind of dislike for each other but you are saying the original mod is obsolete because a newer component was released 2 weeks ago??? and all the rumors havent been cleared up now your process is obsolete because you dont need the CR3100 anymore it is obsolete to the new CR5100 witch is finaly release in its 64gb glory that can suppourt 2 32gb SDHC cards all by itself and PSP firmware is by no means limited to 64 gb as you stated It has been tested on a TB and it reads the device just fine I agree that it is way better with the potental for 64gb but no need to act all knowing this is all just theory you nor I knows for a fact these things even work as we have not taken one apart and tried ourselves there is very limited published info on the device and it is very contradictory what the info from different sources say. but yes the no solder method you stated will work and its great you know about it but you better buy up all those CR3100 because no more will be made and you will have to do the solder method to suppourt 2 SDHC cards instead of SDHC mini with the newest CR5400 once all the CR3100 are all gone and the CR3100 is caped at 32 gb and only the newest CR5400 suppourt 64gb
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first of all MR perfect you are wrong you are just bashing jumbo for no reason I sense you have some kind of dislike for each other but you are saying the original mod is obsolete because a newer component was released 2 weeks ago??? and all the rumors havent been cleared up now your process is obsolete because you dont need the CR3100 anymore it is obsolete to the new CR5100 witch is finaly release in its 64gb glory that can suppourt 2 32gb SDHC cards all by itself and PSP firmware is by no means limited to 64 gb as you stated It has been tested on a TB and it reads the device just fine I agree that it is way better with the potental for 64gb but no need to act all knowing this is all just theory you nor I knows for a fact these things even work as we have not taken one apart and tried ourselves there is very limited published info on the device and it is very contradictory what the info from different sources say. but yes the no solder method you stated will work and its great you know about it but you better buy up all those CR3100 because no more will be made and you will have to do the solder method to suppourt 2 SDHC cards instead of SDHC mini with the newest CR5400 once all the CR3100 are all gone and the CR3100 is caped at 32 gb and only the newest CR5400 suppourt 64gb
Holy cow your post is hard to read with out any punctuations.... I want to first start by apologizing to all as it wasn't my intension to get into an argument with your buddy Jumbo. I was just simply retaliating from the insults he replied to my thread. It was not the welcome i envisioned from my first post on a well know mod site as this or worse yet coming from a moderator.
I recently purchased both CR-3100 and CR-5400 so if i come across as a know it all is because i have them and tested with them. I will be more than happy to answer any questions you all may have to the best of my knowledge. Please don't flame me because i'm trying to spread the word on how inexpensive and how well these products work. I'm also trying to keep poor 13year kids from potentially damaging their PSP when they no electrical experience what so ever to be doing mods like this.
Being obsolete is a process that occurs on a daily basis in any industry. Every product that you see on shelf is already obsolete as manufactures are already working on patches, making it smaller, faster and more efficient. That is just the way the trend works.. There was nothing in either of my posts that was wrong. The fotofast products work right out of the box with out the need of soldering and they are really easy to internalize.
btw.. thank you for letting me know that the PSP supports TB because i was under the impression with the current firmware it only supported 32gig.
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Holy cow your post is hard to read with out any punctuations.... I want to first start by apologizing to all as it wasn't my intension to get into an argument with your buddy Jumbo. I was just simply retaliating from the insults he replied to my thread. It was not the welcome i envisioned from my first post on a well know mod site as this or worse yet coming from a moderator.
I recently purchased both CR-3100 and CR-5400 so if i come across as a know it all is because i have them and tested with them. I will be more than happy to answer any questions you all may have to the best of my knowledge. Please don't flame me because i'm trying to spread the word on how inexpensive and how well these products work. I'm also trying to keep poor 13year kids from potentially damaging their PSP when they no electrical experience what so ever to be doing mods like this.
Being obsolete is a process that occurs on a daily basis in any industry. Every product that you see on shelf is already obsolete as manufactures are already working on patches, making it smaller, faster and more efficient. That is just the way the trend works.. There was nothing in either of my posts that was wrong. The fotofast products work right out of the box with out the need of soldering and they are really easy to internalize.
btw.. thank you for letting me know that the PSP supports TB because i was under the impression with the current firmware it only supported 32gig.
Its not your thread. Its your post.
Dark Alex Lifted That Limit in about 3.50 m33 Firmware. Im not sure what Sony's Limit is
The whole point of this was to MOD, Exactly my point.
I'm not a Moderator Retard.
1st...Jumbo i hope you are not as stupid as your avatar looks because if you were to re-read my post i never said $48... I said exceeding the cost of the CR-5400 which sells for $25..
2nd...i can tell someone wasn't paying attention in math class because by the time you buy, USB card reader, ribbon cable, duo adapter, solder gun, solder, electrical tape and shipping/handling perhaps gas if you have to go to Radio shack you would already exceed way beyond $10... :whoosh:
3rd... MicroSD current max size 8gig. 16gig Micro cards are on the way as i clearly stated... SDHC current largest size available is 32gig..
CR-5400 current mem capacity is 16gig with the potential to go 32gig with the use of 2\16gig micro SD cards once they are available..
CR-3100 currently can go 32gig with the potential to go as high 64gig once a firmware is supported.
So hate all you want because anyone who has at least two brain cells working knows that using the single SD card mod will limit you to one card. CR-3100 can double that with out the need of any soldering or shorting out your psp. :#1:
school is over...
First, What the :censored: does my Avatar have to do with ME? You did actually you said Photofast to make this was 48$.
Ya, Im sure most people around ACIDMODS, has a Iron. Iron- 9 Solder- 2 Tape- 3 Card Reader- 3 Kynar- 2 Card Converter- 7= $33 USD. And Most people have this stuff. There is no ribbon cable I don't know where you got that idea.There is no shipping and handling IF YOU GO TO THE DANG STORE.
This came out like last :censored: ing week. This mod is months old. Good job on joining Acidmods just to make fun of this AMAZING :censored: ING MOD.
The limit of this mod is 32 GB USING A DANG SDHC!!!!!!!
I seriously HATE when people act so :censored: ing dumb to say something sucks, WHEN THEY ARE WRONG, AND DON'T EVEN HAVE THERE FACTS CLOSE.
And I'm SURE, ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE 2 BRAIN CELLS. IF I DID I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TYPE. TARD.
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Jumbish... for the love of god please stop posting...You just made yourself look like a punked bish on the internet by twisting everything i said.. HAHAHAHAHAHA... Please tell your mom to read my posts for you since you cant understand what i was trying to say. :rofl:
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no for the last time is dose not use the same protocalls an MS stick witch is used in the video you linked(and only card used in that video as its the only card that can directly connect without an adapter SD cards have been around wayyyyy longer than PSP.... ) to uses same protocalls as MSPD SDHC uses completely diffrent protocalls therefore you need an adapter or some kind of hardware to translate dont you think its there for a reason I mean come on if it was possible to just directly wire wouldnt you think we would be doing that in the first place?. No I do not expect you to read the whole thread maybe just skim trough it and search function? eyebrow and yes it was posted in recently but it is all just spam like your post from ppl who cant research and we have been asking to stop bumping it with useless unrelated or stupid comments.
Chill out man, no need to be so aggressive, we're all under one forum-roof right. Thanks for answering and explaining it to me ;)
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Jumbish... for the love of god please stop posting...You just made yourself look like a punked bish on the internet by twisting everything i said.. HAHAHAHAHAHA... Please tell your mom to read my posts for you since you cant understand what i was trying to say. :rofl:
Mclain, do yourself a favor a :censored: off. We are here to discuss internal memroy mods, not to exchange insults with a child, grow up. infact why don't you ask your mom how big boys behave online and learn to respect others before running that mouth of yours. honestly.......
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oh dear god when will this thread die?! I seriously think someone should get a mod to close this thread to stop retards posting in it.
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wifi switch on the side, non-clear backplate, fat looking, speaker holes.
lol, fat looking. dont you mean american sized? jk nah oyu can tell form the 2 humps protruding from the back.
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I tried to do this today. I soldered everything correctly according to the pin outs, by when i put the adapter in my psp and restart the memory stick will just continuously flash. when i try to format, the memory stick light will blink steady and it will say there is not a card in the psp. i have tried this with both sd and sdhc cards and still no luck. any suggestions would b greatly appreciated.
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I tried to do this today. I soldered everything correctly according to the pin outs, by when i put the adapter in my psp and restart the memory stick will just continuously flash. when i try to format, the memory stick light will blink steady and it will say there is not a card in the psp. i have tried this with both sd and sdhc cards and still no luck. any suggestions would b greatly appreciated.
please let this thread die, stop bumping it people. Btw if that happens it means there is a problem in your wiring. Trust me this happened to mine, you may think your wiring is perfect but I got someone else to check it and they found my fault straight away.
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please let this thread die, stop bumping it people. Btw if that happens it means there is a problem in your wiring. Trust me this happened to mine, you may think your wiring is perfect but I got someone else to check it and they found my fault straight away.
Here is a picture so you can check my wiring
micro sd to mspd adapter
(http://100_3464.JPG)
sd reader
(http://100_3463.JPG)
the whole thing
(http://100_3465.JPG)
please help
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try hosting your images at a online site like www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com).
EDIT: locked to stop future spam and bumps. If you need your question answer please read through the thread again and ONLY if it has NOT been answered before then make a new thread.