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Title: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on December 09, 2009, 04:19:43 PM
XBOX 360 controller complete lighting Tutorial
By Spurgurgle

Hi there, ok so I’ve broken this tutorial down into smaller sections to make it a bit easier to use. But by the end you should have a controller that looks something like this:
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/end_tut.jpg)

XBOX 360 controller LED change and RF indication light


Introduction
In this tutorial I'll be covering how to remove and replace your Xbox 360 controller ROL leds and how to add a second LED to the player 4 contacts to act as a different color RF indication light.

Parts Needed


Tools Needed


Difficulty rating: 2/5

Average Time to Complete: 05-15mins

Notes:
-Be careful picking up the leds in tweezers as they can easily fling out across the room.
-Be careful not to use too much heat on the leds as they are sensitive.

Step By Step Tutorial
1- Watch this Acidmods video by Treemty on how to take your controller apart.
Xbox 360 Wireless controller disassembly video tutorial  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOTg_XuuW8g#normal)

2- Identify what controller type you have. Use this thread: https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=24699.0 (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=24699.0) thanks goes to Gameroms

3- Use these diagrams below to check + / - for your LED's and controller (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/CG___-.jpg)
This the CG pad type, the - side of the contacts is marked by the white line and dot at 1 end of the LED.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/matrix___-.jpg)
This is a matrix pad type, the - side is marked by the point on the triangle that is in-between the two contacts for the led you can see it until the led is removed.
So I have marked all the contacts in this picture. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/LED___-.jpg)
In this picture you see the underside of you LED's some types have a small triangle other have a T on them. Use these 3 pictures to work out which way round you leds will go.

4- Removing the original leds. First make sure your soldering iron has a nice fine tip on it. (use a file if necessary to file a better tip onto it.) Then prime your soldering iron with a large enough ball of solder to flood one of the led. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/solder_tip.jpg)
Now your iron is ready carefully flood the led with the solder ball make sure it is touching both contacts on the led (add more solder if needed but not to much as it'll get messy) and with very little pressure slide the LED off (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/remove.jpg)

5- Now clean the excess solder from the contacts so there flat (again don’t apply to much pressure else you'll damage/rip off the contact) The pads should look something like this: (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/clean.jpg)

6- Carefully remove the packaging from your leds and pick 1 up using the tweezers the hold it in place over the contacts. check the + / - to make sure it's going the right way. + goes to + and - goes to -. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/hold.jpg)
Now carefully with a small amount of solder on your soldering tip, touch it to the contact at 1 end of the led to tack it in place, let the solder cool and pull away the tweezers. it should stay there (if not pick it up and try again but be careful not to use to much heat on them. (You want to be doing quick soft touches,with your soldering iron not long holds as this will damage the leds.), now touch the other contact and there you go! You should have successfully changed a ROL led.

7-Test each led as you go, and repeat step 6 on all 4 of the leds then test again. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/test.jpg)

Now onto different color Rapid fire indication light. This is rather simple to do. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/RF_indication.jpg)
Just get another color led and connect it to the right hand side of the player 4 led, check the + / - and make sure it matches to the contact on you PCB *on matrix + side of led to + contact *on CG - side of led to - contact (Note: there both on the right hand side for player 4)

FAQ/ Troubleshooting

Ok so that is the ring of light now onto light the dome

Lit Dome/Guide button

Introduction
In this section of the tutorial we'll be covering how to light up you dome/guide button using 5mm leds.

Parts Needed
  • 2x 5mm leds
  • Resistor (depending on led used.
  • 30awg wire
  • Bread board

Tools Needed
  • Solder Iron
  • Hot glue gun
  • 7-10mm drill
  • Wire cutters

Difficulty Rating: 3/5

Average Time to Complete: 15-45mins

Notes: Take extra care drilling the button.

Step By Step Tutorial
1- After taking your controller apart using the above guide, solder 2 3inch pieces of wire to a small piece of breadboard. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/breadboard.jpg)
2- Now glue your breadboard in place on your controller using the hot glue... (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/glue_bread.jpg)
(As you can see on this controller I have a rapid fire chip already installed so I just glued the new breadboard over it making sure there is no shorting out of the chip. You don't have to do this if you don't want to)
3- Connect the 2 wires from the breadboard on to the ground and VVD. The pad type im using is CG but I also use these connections on matrix pads as they don’t have a switched 3v.
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/conect1.jpg)
4- Clamp your dome in a pair of pliers
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/clamp_dome.jpg)
And carefully drill out the inside. I used a 7mm drill bit for this but had to move it a bit to get the whole insides out. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/dome_drilled.jpg)
Once you’re happy with the drilling cut a small notch in the larger of the 2 tabs on the side of the button to move the wires through. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/dome_notch.jpg)
5-Take your two 5mm leds (Other sizes and types of leds can be used I just like 5mm because they are cheap and easy to get) bend the legs on both in the same direction then solder them together. and solder on two 3inch pieces of wire to them (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/dome_led1.jpg)
6- Now check if your leds fit inside the button. (if they don't drill out /shave out a bit more of it..) and check that they are working with a battery. Then fill half the button with hot glue and press in the leds making sure they are point straight down into the buttons (Any slant on them will result in a badly lit dome.) Once you’re happy with the led placement fill the button with glue up to the height of the original plastic X. If you go too high the button will be stiff and too low means you have to push the button further. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/dome_glued.jpg)
The finished button should look like this:
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/dome_fin.jpg)
7- Now check the polarity of your bread board and lit dome then solder the wires in place on the bread board (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/dome_wired.jpg)

FAQ/ Troubleshooting
Trigger lights

Introduction this is the part of my tutorial on how to back light your triggers or light up triggers (if there transparent)

Parts Needed
Tools Needed
Difficulty rating: 1/5

Average Time to Complete: 5-15mins

Notes: be careful gluing the leds in place as they may foul up on the case..

Step By Step Tutorial
1- take you 2 leds bend the legs as shown below then solder 3-4inches of wire to them (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/trig_leds.jpg)
2- now use you hot glue gun to glue the leds in place. take care not to get glue under the trigger parts
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/trig_led_glued.jpg)
3- test and connect you wires. for the right trigger use the breadboard installed earlier in the dome mod. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/wire_right_trig.jpg)
and for the left use the same vvd and ground that we connected the breadboard to (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/left_trig_wire.jpg)
Here's this mod done:
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/trig_lights.jpg)

FAQ/ Troubleshooting
ABXY lighting tutorial

Introduction in this section I will be showing you how to light your ABXY using 5mm white leds...

Parts Needed
Tools Needed
Difficulty rating: 4/5

Average Time to Complete: 30-60mins

Notes: note be very careful when cutting or drilling the buttons.

Step By Step Tutorial
1- take you four 5mm white leds and solder on 2-3 inches of wire to the base of each led the trim off the excess leg material. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/abxy_leds.jpg)
2- now carefully clamp your ABXY buttons in a pair of pliers and use your 7mm drill to remove most of the white plastic.. you want to leave a thin layer of it.. this way your buttons still look stock when the mod is turned off. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/abxy_drilled.jpg)
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/Abxy_drilled_2.jpg)
3- cut notches in to your buttons using a sharp knife. on A and X cut the notch above the largest sized tabs and for Y and B cut the notches above the middle sized tabs
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/abxy_notches.jpg)
4-glue the leds in the button.... ok first test fit the leds then half fill the button with glue. insert the led down most of the way.. make sure it is below the white plastic. make sure the wires run through the notch’s you cut. then fill the button up to the top of the white plastic with hot glue and use the other end of your drill bit to push it down flat with the white plastic.. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/abxy_led_glued.jpg)
5- ok now test the polarity of each button. and wire them to the bread board we installed in the dome guide. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/abxy_wired.jpg)
your finished buttons should look like this:
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/abxy_test.jpg)
now carefully close up your pad making sure none of the wires get in the way of the pad closing.... (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/ABXY_lights.jpg)

FAQ/ Troubleshooting
Lit start and back buttons

Introduction in this part of the tutorial I will be showing you how to light the start and back buttons.

Parts Needed
Tools Needed
Difficulty rating: 4.5/5

Average Time to Complete: 30-45mins

Notes: this can be very tricky to get right as you will be soldering smd leds to wires and drill a small hole down the center of your start and back buttons.

Step By Step Tutorial
1- take 2 of your leds and lay them upside down, side by side. I used a blob of blue tack to hold them still then solder a 3-4 inch piece of wire across each set of contacts. carefully twist the 2 wires together test. and apply a small amount of hot glue for strength
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/StB_led.jpg)
then repeat for the other 2 led's 2- now take you buttons first cut a dip into the center of each to guide your drill bit then very carefully drill out the center make sure you don’t go too far check it as you go buy holding it up to a light and see if you can see the light shinning through.
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/StB_buttons.jpg)
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/StB_drilled.jpg)
once the inside of your button looks like this cut a small groove for the wires to run through in each button then half fill with hot glue insert you leds and fill level to the top of the button.
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/StB_glued.jpg)
3- now check the polarity of each led and run the wire to the bread board used through out this tutorial. make sure you get the button round the right way. then trim them off and solder them to the bread board (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/StB_wired.jpg)

ok now carefully close up your controller making sure all the buttons are going in correct and none of the wires are in the way.. use a small screwdriver to push them in place if need be.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/StB_finished.jpg)

and your done enjoy your new lit controller
(https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/end_tut.jpg)

FAQ/ Troubleshooting

Tutorial courtesy of Spurgurgle
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15159 (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15159)[/list]
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: W-Gaming5 on December 09, 2009, 07:50:20 PM
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Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Ben. on December 10, 2009, 08:06:33 AM
Wow.

Thats a exetremely impressive tutorial - Well done :)
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on December 10, 2009, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: W-Gaming5 on December 09, 2009, 07:50:20 PM
Awesome TUTs :tup:
Quote from: Ben. on December 10, 2009, 08:06:33 AM
Wow.

Thats a exetremely impressive tutorial - Well done :)

cheers guys....

and if anyone has any question about any part feel free to ask....  :tup:


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also guys i have now added

d-pad lighting
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,34025.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,34025.0.html)

bumper lights
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,34026.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,34026.0.html)

and lit sync button
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,34052.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,34052.0.html)

they wouldnt all fit in the first post so there's the link to there induvidual threads.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Amerikun Soljia on December 18, 2009, 10:44:25 AM
Awesome bro. Just what i needed. Thanks.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: rafaliyo86 on December 23, 2009, 11:56:45 AM
Incredible!!! I only have one doubt. Why do you conect another led in 4 player? Whats the difference placing only one?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on December 23, 2009, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: rafaliyo86 on December 23, 2009, 11:56:45 AM
Incredible!!! I only have one doubt. Why do you conect another led in 4 player? Whats the difference placing only one?


the 2nd led on player 4 is for rapid fire indication. it works with every rapid fire code i've tried, such as hazers codes and lugnuts code..... it does say above the picture this is for rapid fire indication
and the wire attached to the 2nd player4 led does say "wire to rf chip." next to it.....


Quote from: spurgurgle on December 09, 2009, 04:19:43 PM

Now onto different color Rapid fire indication light. This is rather simple to do. (https://www.acidmods.com/RAND/upload/files/upload/RF_indication.jpg)
Just get another color led and connect it to the right hand side of the player 4 led, check the + / - and make sure it matches to the contact on you PCB *on matrix + side of led to + contact *on CG - side of led to - contact (Note: there both on the right hand side for player 4)



i hope you found this tut usefull.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: rafaliyo86 on December 24, 2009, 04:38:24 AM
Quote from: spurgurgle on December 23, 2009, 05:39:44 PM


the 2nd led on player 4 is for rapid fire indication. it works with every rapid fire code i've tried, such as hazers codes and lugnuts code..... it does say above the picture this is for rapid fire indication
and the wire attached to the 2nd player4 led does say "wire to rf chip." next to it.....


i hope you found this tut usefull.

Ok, then if i i have to leds, for exaple one red and one blue, the blue will be on when rapid fire will be on and red only when rapid fire will bo off. Is that?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Modded Matt on December 25, 2009, 06:09:34 AM
the blue one, or which ever one you solder in the factory location, will function as the normal rol led functions, as a player indicator, and spin in the sinc function. the added led will be on when RF is on and off when RF is not on. they are mounted in this location to share the same view window through the controller.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on December 26, 2009, 04:30:02 AM
Quote from: modded matt on December 25, 2009, 06:09:34 AM
the blue one, or which ever one you solder in the factory location, will function as the normal rol led functions, as a player indicator, and spin in the sinc function. the added led will be on when RF is on and off when RF is not on. they are mounted in this location to share the same view window through the controller.
yep thats it matt

also its for if your playing as player 4..... usualy rf indication will just be on the original pl4 led.... but if your player 4 it'll be lit up constantly so you wont no what mode rf your in or evan if rf is turned on.... by adding a 2nd led thats a different color. it means evan if your player 4 you can still tell what your rf is doing....
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: stunnedjack on January 16, 2010, 07:51:11 PM
I am wanting to do this, would i be able to use these led's for the abxy. would i have to use colored or a resistor. thanks.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3060980 (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3060980)
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on January 17, 2010, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: stunnedjack on January 16, 2010, 07:51:11 PM
I am wanting to do this, would i be able to use these led's for the abxy. would i have to use colored or a resistor. thanks.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3060980 (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3060980)

yeah there fine there pretty much what i yse in the ABXY section of this tut...

and they have 3.3FV so you wouldnt need a resistor for them unless its a wired pad .....
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: stunnedjack on January 17, 2010, 12:27:58 PM
ok cool. thanks
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: strangwooduk on January 26, 2010, 01:42:56 AM
damn i bet this drains ur battery though
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on January 26, 2010, 12:04:26 PM
not really ... i dont notice much difference in battery life..... the leds will dim well before the battery is out of juice. but if like me u run plug and play its fine cos when the leds dim u plug it in...
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: laxboy on January 26, 2010, 12:15:10 PM
most leds tho but red do not cause of there foward voltage
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: tylrstarch on March 18, 2010, 05:43:03 PM
great tut. one question though:
the smallest wire gauge i can find is 22.
if i can cram it all in would it still work or not?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on March 19, 2010, 04:01:38 AM
it will work... wire is wire  ya know....

but i recommend getting some 30awg wire... do a search onlinefor it theres loads of suppliers....

i use  Farnell (http://uk.farnell.com[size=2)
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Brainstorm32 on March 19, 2010, 02:05:00 PM
How did you cut your breadboard chunk. That is some thick plastic or is that a pcb?

Thanks
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on March 20, 2010, 12:12:07 PM
its just a peice of breadboard..... it's a little bit of circuit board you can get it from any electronics supplier.....

i cut mine with a pair of large snips...... its quite wastefull doing it this way... other people score it with a knife and snap it or just use a small hacksaw to cut it......
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Awesome10Foil on April 07, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
I'm really interested in doing this mod but I've never worked with breadboard before. Is there different kinds? Does it matter?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Blazinkaos on April 08, 2010, 02:50:22 AM
Amazing spurg :D
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Brainstorm32 on April 08, 2010, 08:23:19 AM
I would really be interested in seeing a piece of that breadboard before there is anything solder to it. I have a solderless breadboard and there is not way this is the same kind.
Thanks,
Jerry
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on April 08, 2010, 08:41:04 AM
any kind of breadboard/circuit board will do... its only a  small peice to join the wires with...... you could just solder them all together and heat shrink it.....

the breadboard i use is solderless.... i just tin it up beofre using it as it makes it easier to use.........
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: GLOC on July 09, 2010, 01:42:28 AM
so with a breadboard it will connect everything to light up or is the breadboard is there because the wires to short to connect? can i just connect ever thing to the ground and VDD ports or is that a bad idea will the wires short out or it wont work at all? oh and i have a matrix board will it make a difference
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on July 09, 2010, 02:49:34 AM


the breadboard is solely for joining the wires... you can run them all to +/- connections but that means 8 wires runnin around your pad.... taking up space making it harder to close or fit any more mods in.....

 :drunk:
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Blazinkaos on July 09, 2010, 03:18:48 PM
Quote from: spurgurgle on July 09, 2010, 02:49:34 AM


ok the breadboard is solely for joining the wires... you can run them all to +/- connections but that means 8 wires runnin around your pad.... taking up space making it harder to close or fit any more mods in.....

 :drunk:
Well said spurgurgle love it.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: XxiHAGGISxX on July 29, 2010, 08:10:04 PM
i was just wondering if a piece of stripboard http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1918 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1918) would do the job of the breadboard or if is dosent can u post a link to a board i could use :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :help:  :x:
Post Merge: July 30, 2010, 06:46:05 AM
Quote from: spurgurgle on July 09, 2010, 02:49:34 AM

the breadboard is solely for joining the wires... you can run them all to +/- connections but that means 8 wires runnin around your pad.... taking up space making it harder to close or fit any more mods in.....

 :drunk:

maybe im being an idiot but the Ground point u put the breadboard to is negative and the VDD is positive
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Blazinkaos on July 31, 2010, 02:31:17 AM
You need something closer to this
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102845 (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102845)
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: DubbedTheBeast on July 31, 2010, 04:22:04 PM
Quote from: Blazinkaos on July 31, 2010, 02:31:17 AM
You need something closer to this
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102845 (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102845)

this is the bread board i use for all of my controller mods. its great for making an analog RF mod and for using in this lighting mod. a big plus is if you cut it correctly you can use if for several controllers.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: XxiHAGGISxX on July 31, 2010, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: DubbedTheBeast on July 31, 2010, 04:22:04 PM
this is the bread board i use for all of my controller mods. its great for making an analog RF mod and for using in this lighting mod. a big plus is if you cut it correctly you can use if for several controllers.

i live in the uk and radioshack dosent delivery to uk/ not cheaply.....  i was wounderd if this was any better then http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47480 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47480) if not could u please try show me a sutible product from the uk
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: DubbedTheBeast on July 31, 2010, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: XxiHAGGISxX on July 31, 2010, 05:20:39 PM
i live in the uk and radioshack dosent delivery to uk/ not cheaply.....  i was wounderd if this was any better then http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47480 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47480) if not could u please try show me a sutible product from the uk

try the one with the order number N95CF it is in the scroll tab on the page you linked. it's a small strip board. that should work great for this application. you may not find much use in it for other things though. if you have friends that like to do the same things it may be a good idea to go in it together and save a little cash that way.

also if you don't mind improvising you could probably get away with using a couple pieces of solder wick as your terminal. just make all of you soldering before using hot glue on it.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: XxiHAGGISxX on August 04, 2010, 02:30:10 PM
i was just wondering if there was anyway of being able to keep the battery pack in and the leds off so when  u turn the controller on the leds come on aswell or is that not possible
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: DubbedTheBeast on August 04, 2010, 05:55:57 PM
i have been told you can use an octocupler (forgive me if i mistold on the word) so that when you turn off the controller the lights will turn off too. i have not tried that yet. you could add a power switch in a less noticeable place also.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: FOOKz™ on August 04, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
Man spurg this is still an outstanding topic. xD

Yeah DubbedTheBeast thats a good idea so you won't run the risk of loading the switched supply so much it would break the controller.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: XxiHAGGISxX on August 06, 2010, 08:48:44 AM
ive got a solition and is currently working just buy the smallest latching switch u can fit it in your controller and split the cable that goes from the VDD to the breadboard and solder to the switch this also means u can turn lights off if ur low on battery and u still want to play


REP me if this helps
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: eNeRGy on August 06, 2010, 11:03:33 AM
you should add the sync button to this guide so it will be truly "complete"
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on August 06, 2010, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: eNeRGy on August 06, 2010, 11:03:33 AM
you should add the sync button to this guide so it will be truly "complete"

in my second post... there are links tothe rest of the lighting tuts such as the sycn button and bumper lights.... i would of put them in the first post but the post had already reachd its limited on size.....  hence the links to them topics for sycn button lights , bumper lights and dpad lights......
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: XxiHAGGISxX on August 06, 2010, 04:21:31 PM
my controller disconeects about every 10secs when i done this anyhelp
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: DubbedTheBeast on August 06, 2010, 05:07:45 PM
you leds are taking too much power and the controller does not have enough juice to keep going. try to use a resistor on the negative side of your leds. if i'm not mistaken if you used the led types in this tut a 4.7ohm resistor should do the trick.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 07, 2010, 10:36:57 AM
Just follow this tut and youll work according as its post to.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: 1mmort41 on August 14, 2010, 10:37:43 PM
OK here is... Do you use two superbright LED in the browser button in parallel? it  seems as though you do...
i want to know if I would need a resister when using two of these in parallel ( http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=45937 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=45937) ) rather than needing a resister for just one. thanks for any help guys. just wondering because i used the led calculator and it shows my circuit as having to have a resister on each of the negative points on both LED, which is not how i want it. (i want mine wired as yours is with two in parallel with both inside the browser button.) OR... does it mean i have to wire these in series to be able to have no resistor? It's all just confusing me atm...
OMG... this is like the 10th time editing this post, grrr... Did you use solid core wire, OR equipment/stranded wire?
and I'm really sorry for asking all these questions its just i get really frustrated and want to buy all the things necessary really really soon :)
:help: :confused: :help:       :beg:

+for all perfectionists who want 30 gauge wire:    30 gauge American wire is actually 33 gauge UK wire, SO 30awg=33swg
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on August 15, 2010, 07:50:34 AM
u'll need to check the FW voltage (forward voltage) of your led.... basiscly if its 3v or over u dont need a resistor if its under u will.... you can get away with no resistors but its not recommender... wire it in parallel just like i did in my tut and u'll have no worry's.... these are ver simple mods.... the hard part is not wiring the led  its drill out the button and glueing the leds in...

the wire i use is single strand (solid core) 30 awg... not stranded......

also ur leds look like red a rule of thumb i use with red leds is put a 20-100ohm resistor on them and they'll be fine..... but it depends on the brightness u want the type of battery u use and a few other variables...
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: 1mmort41 on August 20, 2010, 07:19:44 PM
Yo... to all people out there who cant find a cg1 board for lighting purposes... Loads of people have recommended a switch or a micro switch, and i don't know about you but i look around and theres only those big chunky things that you flipback and forth! So i say look for a slide switch, it works brilliantly, it fits just barely inside the controller by the battery pack so you can switch it on/off with no case modding involved.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: sgtmajorsav on March 28, 2011, 11:04:27 AM
Not sure if this post is dead but I wanted to know about the ability to turn these lights off while still playing. Like if I just wanted to show them off for a min. There a way to do that? If so how? Where do I solder for that or what wires do I mess with? Thanks. Also would a transistor be easier or harder to put in? Thanks.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on March 28, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: sgtmajorsav on March 28, 2011, 11:04:27 AM
Not sure if this post is dead but I wanted to know about the ability to turn these lights off while still playing. Like if I just wanted to show them off for a min. There a way to do that? If so how? Where do I solder for that or what wires do I mess with? Thanks. Also would a transistor be easier or harder to put in? Thanks.

this post will never be dead as its a tutorial....

as for your question the simpilest way to turn it on n off while the pad is still on is to put a micro switch in either the positive or ground wire.... simple.... that hard part is finding a decent slide switch that will fit nicely in the pad.....
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: 1mmort41 on March 28, 2011, 11:22:47 AM
Hey sgntmajorsav, i think there may be many different ways to do that. but i do reccomend useing a micro slide switch like i and spurgurgle have mentioned, then if youve followed this tutorial and used a piece of breadboard or something to wire evrything to, just simply wire from the positive terminal to the switch, then to the +side of the board.
I done this with one of mine so that i could either have the lights on and the rapidfire or just the rapidfire... i done this so that i could show off at lan parties and still have rapidfire in my room, without being glared at by the controller. Good luck :P  :drunk:
i found that old toys have extremely decent sized micro slide switches... although some come with screw holes either side, which by the way are really easy to trim off with an old wire cutters.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: sgtmajorsav on March 28, 2011, 03:54:21 PM
Thanks for the quick reply, helped me out.  :yess:


EDIT : I have another question, will the lights go off when the controller is off or does the battery have to be taken out? Would a transistor make them shut off when you turn the controller off? And last is there a tutorial on how to install one and how? Thanks.

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Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: FOOKz™ on March 28, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
Yes the LEDs will go off after you shut the controller down because the LEDs are powered by a "switched supply". Basically what that means is the controller's chip has a power source that only comes on when you try to turn the controller on. The switched supply is used to stop you from draining the battery so you can keep the battery in the controller.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: drummerdude on March 28, 2011, 04:56:12 PM
Im pretty sure that on the cg2, the leds are always on, cause ive done this before on a cg2.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: sgtmajorsav on March 28, 2011, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: FOOKz on March 28, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
Yes the LEDs will go off after you shut the controller down because the LEDs are powered by a "switched supply". Basically what that means is the controller's chip has a power source that only comes on when you try to turn the controller on. The switched supply is used to stop you from draining the battery so you can keep the battery in the controller.

Well i've been reading and they all say you either need a "switch" or a transistor.  I would probably like to have both installed, but i need to know the soldering points and wires to what "neg" or "positive" needed to be.  can someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial. i believe the transistor needed is  a 3904. thanks
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Modded Matt on March 29, 2011, 04:47:09 AM
first find out what type of controller your using. this will determine what you need to switch the power source, or if its even needed atall.

the ideal thing is to use a cg1 controller. wire it to the mic point, so when the controller is off, so are your leds and chips. if a cg2 must be used, order an optocoupler, to mimic the cg1's power supply and wire it the same.

then there is the question of do I want the leds on all the time or not? prolly not. add a micro switch, I have put one in the battery compartment before. use the switch just for the led's and keep the RF chip on the normal cg1 power source. so you can allways have RF but only have leds when you want.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: sgtmajorsav on March 29, 2011, 07:47:59 AM
I guess the easiest would be to just get the micro switch, but i've been looking online and are they hard to fine? because i can't find any. i'll be checking radio shack and another electronics store, but not sure if i'll have luck.  thanks though.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on March 29, 2011, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: FOOKz on March 28, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
Yes the LEDs will go off after you shut the controller down because the LEDs are powered by a "switched supply". Basically what that means is the controller's chip has a power source that only comes on when you try to turn the controller on. The switched supply is used to stop you from draining the battery so you can keep the battery in the controller.

only in a cg 1 type controller...... not cg2 or matrix... im unsure bout matrix 2 as i've never used one....

if your controller type is not cg 1, look in the 360 controllers section for rdc's post about octocuplers thats the best way to make your own switching supply
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Sawted2009 on September 28, 2011, 07:07:35 AM
Hi, sorry if this question has already been asked i must have missed it, i plan on using some 12v leds for the trigger lights will i need a resistor for this?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Cookie Monster on September 28, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: Sawted2009 on September 28, 2011, 07:07:35 AM
Hi, sorry if this question has already been asked i must have missed it, i plan on using some 12v leds for the trigger lights will i need a resistor for this?
the xbox controller doesnt have a 12v point sooo you won't be able to add them anyway
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: snowcolt17 on September 29, 2011, 06:35:09 AM
im thinking about doing this.. i have 10 5mm white 7,000mcd leds.. a few smds. just dont know about the battery afterwards..
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Sawted2009 on October 01, 2011, 02:20:49 AM
Thank you for your reply, should i go for some 5v leds?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Famas on October 01, 2011, 02:34:17 AM
5 volts would not work either the controller works off 3.3v so get the lowest voltage you can
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Sawted2009 on October 08, 2011, 01:04:38 AM
5v with a 1k resistor on each LED worked perfectly :), thank you for your help :)
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: grizzlymodZ on October 22, 2011, 07:47:59 AM
hey spurg..i bought clear thumbsticks+clear dpad..can u make a lightin TuT for me plz?and thanks
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: snowcolt17 on October 22, 2011, 01:59:16 PM
Quote from: grizzlymodZ on October 22, 2011, 07:47:59 AM
hey spurg..i bought clear thumbsticks+clear dpad..can u make a lightin TuT for me plz?and thanks

if you would have looked in the second page of tutorials you would have seen the dpad lighting..
dpad lighting (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,34025.0.html)

this isnt a tutorial but from what i see in spurgurgle comp entry. you just angle the led to shine through the thumpstick.. looks like he used 3mm??

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi639.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu114%2Fspurgurgle%2Fstand%2520out%2520comp%25202011%2FIMGP3385.jpg&hash=b6f3138b3b961fdef00bbbc77840009e39d3f97d)

Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on October 27, 2011, 11:24:09 AM
actually there 0603's they look bigger then they should cos there glue over them and a small square of blue tape to act as a diffuser.... (which has now been scratched...

im quite busy atm but i do want redo my anolog lights on that pad so when i get round to it ill make a tut for it and as snow pointed out i have already done a d-pad tut.


 :tup:
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: snowcolt17 on October 27, 2011, 02:22:47 PM
my bad. lol thought they were 3mm. :p. looks good though. need some blutac
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: King_Cooper on October 02, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
It may not be the best thing to do, but if you put too much glue in the ABXY/Dome buttons or you made your LEDs stick out toofar (iI'm guilty of that) you can slice a thin layer off the nibs that stick out of the button pad. If you slice off too much, a little hot glue on the edge of the nib should restore the thickness.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: spurgurgle on October 03, 2012, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: King_Cooper on October 02, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
It may not be the best thing to do, but if you put too much glue in the ABXY/Dome buttons or you made your LEDs stick out toofar (iI'm guilty of that) you can slice a thin layer off the nibs that stick out of the button pad. If you slice off too much, a little hot glue on the edge of the nib should restore the thickness.


yeah that will work.... BUT.... it wont feel right when you push the button... i would recommend warming the buttons in boiling water and trying to pull out the led and start again.... it took me a while to get my first few sets of led buttons right.... but i found if you use the right sized drill bit you'll leave just a little bit on the white plastic, just enough to use as a guide to fill you glue to...
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Icyhaze on December 23, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
i have a CG2 controller, do i need the optocoupler to wire up LEDs for my guide button and the a,b,x,y buttons? also if i used all white, and 2 blue ones in the guide button, i wouldnt need a resistor for the PnC kit or AA's would it? White have a forward voltage of 3.2 and the blues have 2.8.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Fareham dave on December 23, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
hey krazykid, i have installed lights to my a,b,x,y buttons a few times on different controllers now. i have never needed an optocoupler in the past, also the only LED's you need to resitor down really are reds as they have the lowest outward voltage. hope this helps.  :hifive:
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Icyhaze on December 23, 2012, 08:12:33 PM
it does, i was actually just going to go with all white and 2 blues in the guide button to save on confusion, i just dont want the white to bleed through the color of the a,b,x,y buttons. Do your LEDs work fine when you have the PnC kit plugged in?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Fareham dave on December 23, 2012, 08:46:17 PM
yea it works fine for me with a pnc kit, i always use the 7 mode flasher code for my abxy lights. as i say i have never needed an optocoupler in the past and i only put a resistor on the red LED in the b button. as long as you dont drill the buttons out too much then you slouldnt get much bleed from the lights.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Icyhaze on December 23, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
7 mode flash? and you used blue red green and yellow leds?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Fareham dave on December 23, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,33501.0.htm (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,33501.0.htm) this is an awesome piece of work from TopP8uZz. and yea i used the corresponding colour led for each button apart from the x button as i found white shows through better.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Icyhaze on December 23, 2012, 08:58:44 PM
dude.... thats so cool.. do you buy the chip pre programmed? or do you just buy a chip and program it yourself?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Fareham dave on December 23, 2012, 09:58:28 PM
i just buy the chips and program it myself, if you cant get a programmer sorted anytime soon just drop a message in the chat box or write a post in the forums. I am sure some oone may b able to hook you up with a pre-programmed chip. i would offer myself but i only got 2 chips at the moment.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: jayjaymozza on October 28, 2013, 01:29:33 PM
For the "start" and "back" button could you make them work without using a bread board? And if so where would the wires go?

Thanks
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Modded Matt on October 29, 2013, 05:07:35 AM
to the same GNd And VDD points the breadboard went to.

The breadboard is only so you don't have to solder all those wires to the controller points which are much smaller.
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: jayjaymozza on November 04, 2013, 11:44:59 AM
So what would I do if I wanted to add a 3mm led to light up every time the controller vibrates?
Title: Re: complete xbox 360 controller lighting tutorial {finished}
Post by: Rodent on November 04, 2013, 02:05:26 PM
Quote from: jayjaymozza on November 04, 2013, 11:44:59 AM
So what would I do if I wanted to add a 3mm led to light up every time the controller vibrates?

read this  if you would look around the site you would answer alot of your own questions
this will answer you no need to bump the thread
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,40977.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,40977.0.html)
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