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Console Modding------ ( Here you can talk about your favorite Consoles ) => PSP's => PSP Phat (1000) => Topic started by: Siggen on December 30, 2007, 03:11:28 PM
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I'm new to console modding(except mod-chips), but I'm not new to the art of soldering (even created my own power supply from scratch, but don't ask what it was for cos it was only a school project ^^ )
So i though I'd share my ideas here... But I'm really posting to ask question.
Here is my schematic, my question is below the picture, and pardon my English ^^
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My first question obviously would be do you think this would work? The main thing here is the triple battery thing.
And would I still have room for a internal camera? One that would be as little as possible visible (don't have to be invisible or anything :P )
And with the internal camera, would the USB charger mod still work?, I'm guessing it would work with 3 batteries parallel.
Well removing the UMD tray has been done for loads of mods, ultimately this mod wont leave a visible trace(except a possible camera)
do you think there is room for 2 slim batteries, and I'm guessing i should have a slim battery in the original slot to if they are connected in parallel.
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well i put two battery's on the back of my slim and they both barley fit so idk. it is going to be a touch job
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Why using slim batterys? They have less capacity and are so small that there will be some room left for more, but you can't find any more batterys in there. Use some cellphone batterys, stack them , there can go 2 batterys for each "Box" you drawn, that would be a total of 6 batterys, pick some with 900 mAh each, that would be 6x900mAh=5400mAh.
1800 mAh will give you lets say 6 hours, 6 hours x 3 means you got 18 hours of gaming fun with your PSP. But be aware, that many Batterys weight alot.
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I figured that the camera is to space consuming, and it does not agree with the charger mod, or even usb file transfer....
so I'm leaving it out....
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I figured that the camera is to space consuming, and it does not agree with the charger mod, or even usb file transfer....
so I'm leaving it out....
*sigh* Wait for mine,it's coming soon.It doesn't use the drive,and ALLOWS the usb charger,and the use of the usb still. I'm buying my new camera soon,and I'm making it for the slim.It's the same concept for the phat though,so keep an eye on the slim section,and watch my sig,I'll keep updates in there.
As for your mod,not even one phat battery will fit,they're took thick.Like fufa said,try using cell batteries,or try NDS batteries for more,but the mAh is far less.
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in pretty much every case bigger batteries will have more amps, so the more space you consume the better amperage your gonna get.
[CAUTION RHETORICAL QUESTION]
like, theres 12v batteries small enough to fit in a bluetooth dongle and then theres 12v batteries that fit in cars to run them, which is the more powerful battery?
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First of, the battery in a car does not run the car, its simply a start junction.
second, a 12v battery is a 12v battery...
3 i guess the car battery will last long... a lot longer
you could easily get a AAA battery to run on 500V, but you wont get more effect form it.
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*sigh* Wait for mine,it's coming soon.It doesn't use the drive,and ALLOWS the usb charger,and the use of the usb still. I'm buying my new camera soon,and I'm making it for the slim.It's the same concept for the phat though,so keep an eye on the slim section,and watch my sig,I'll keep updates in there.
As for your mod,not even one phat battery will fit,they're took thick.Like fufa said,try using cell batteries,or try NDS batteries for more,but the mAh is far less.
Well how about the slim batteries, how would they fit? they are 1200mAh,and same size just thinner....
cuz they are 1300mAh, and the DS are only 850mAh, but i dont know the exact size though.
and my sony ericsson phone has a far to wide battery(about 1/3 cm on eye measure), but is about 1/3 the thikness, and only 950mAh
the phat extended batteries form sony are 2200mAh.. so if i could fit 3 of those, and maybe have no back cover, but straps to have them thight, that would be 6600mAh...
and i hope for your new mod to be compatible with this triple battery thing (size matters :) )
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First of, the battery in a car does not run the car, its simply a start junction.
second, a 12v battery is a 12v battery...
3 i guess the car battery will last long... a lot longer
you could easily get a AAA battery to run on 500V, but you wont get more effect form it.
First off,yes your right.
Second,no.It depends on mAh,a 12v batt is not just a 12v batt...
3,obviously,car batts have more mAh then wimpy little regular 12v batts
Are you high?No you can't! If you used a step up converter and got a AAA to like 3v(double the usual) it would last like 1 minute,it's not made for that,AAA don't have high mAh,so if you stepped it up,it would die.Extremely fast. Research.
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I think it is doable you would def. need to remove the shells, I have been considering putting 1 batt. in there as well as a bluetooth set up like jair2k4.
But how would it be wired up, would you have to use a switch to select which battery is being used?
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I think it is doable you would def. need to remove the shells, I have been considering putting 1 batt. in there as well as a bluetooth set up like jair2k4.
But how would it be wired up, would you have to use a switch to select which battery is being used?
No wire them paralell, then they will work as one battery.
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First off,yes your right.
Second,no.It depends on mAh,a 12v batt is not just a 12v batt...
3,obviously,car batts have more mAh then wimpy little regular 12v batts
Are you high?No you can't! If you used a step up converter and got a AAA to like 3v(double the usual) it would last like 1 minute,it's not made for that,AAA don't have high mAh,so if you stepped it up,it would die.Extremely fast. Research.
I was of course not referring to actually using a AAA battery at 500V, but there is not problem in the proof of concept, getting it to give 500V, but it would for sure not last longer than for the meter to measure it (if you have a good meter for it, not the regular you get in the store i guess)
and you always have the instruments electricians use to (i dont know the English name of them) test for faulty in their work..
and they run on batteries to, high voltage low amps... my teacher sent 500v through my class last year... well it tickled, but at so low amps its nothing to be alarmed about...
I think it is doable you would def. need to remove the shells, I have been considering putting 1 batt. in there as well as a bluetooth set up like jair2k4.
But how would it be wired up, would you have to use a switch to select which battery is being used?
you would connect + from the extra batteries to + on the original battery socket, and - to -, then they would depleted slower(at two batteries they would deplete half as slow)
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk263%2FSigudian%2Fpspwireing.png&hash=86478ecc98e7770433285c2981729fe887fb7d56)
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so the circuit board that is in the battery has to remain attached to each of the Li-ion cells, or could you just wire in the additional cells to the original battery
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If your gonna use batteries, use SIXAXIS Batteries, theyre half the thickness of a slim batt, and less wide, you could easily fit 4 in a UMD Door and have the Camera in there too.
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(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi168.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu200%2FCHarper1980%2Fcellphoneshop_1982_194265401.gif&hash=77b9c824c98b43fdfe298b156d16475feeefb03d)
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/baforsopl3si.html (http://www.cellphoneshop.net/baforsopl3si.html)
that is pretty sweet, but do you really think 4 plus camera
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Yes, 4 because 4 fit
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Little tip, on the motherboard there are 6 metal tabs just under the battery connector, 3 on each side, they are connected to the tip to wire them to there, it will make it neater and if you actually did it on the prongs, then the battery might not fit properly
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the sixaxis batteries looks great, but they are 3.7V and the PSP batteries are 3.6V
any thoughts on that? if it would work... then im sure to use these.. and ill probably make these in the mod...
and if they would fit with the UMD tray removed, but the UMD lid all intact, it would be awesome and it would be so easy to replace the batteries and such if that would be needed...
and the SIXAXIS batteries would be easier to install to..
but the .1V higher could be a problem... and a step down would take to much room, but i need to look into this, any thoughts would be much appreciated, cuz the SIXAXIS looks like the best choice so far.
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It's not a problem, charge your PSP Battery fully, and messure it, your battery i´will have like 4v. I don't think your PSP exploded yet, so go ahead, 0.1 is nothing.
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It's not a problem, charge your PSP Battery fully, and messure it, your battery i´will have like 4v. I don't think your PSP exploded yet, so go ahead, 0.1 is nothing.
thanks i was just worried if some fine components would be rendered broken, but thanks
i will measure when i get back home (I'm visiting my mother, boring) just for fun, but i believe you..
now the next step would be to get the hold of these SIXAXIS batteries in norway.. hoping i dont have to order form outside the country.
A tad off topic:
so could anyone provide a link to a guide that contains removal of the UMD tray... i have not yet opened my psp, and i would like to get a heads up on what I'm in for. tho im doing the usb charger mod next week, my friend has a large bag full of small screw drives (and other equipment) do you think it would be enough to open the psp whit out ruining the psp's screws? or do i need a special screwdrive
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Head over to the Wiki, there should be a tutorial somewhere, should be about Jewel etc.
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Head over to the Wiki, there should be a tutorial somewhere, should be about Jewel etc.
Sorry i cant find it in the Wiki https://www.acidmods.com/Wiki/tiki-listpages.php (https://www.acidmods.com/Wiki/tiki-listpages.php)
am i blind, or is am i looking at the wrong spot? the forum search engine was no help
Sorry, i feel stupid for asking this...
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Sorry i cant find it in the Wiki https://www.acidmods.com/Wiki/tiki-listpages.php (https://www.acidmods.com/Wiki/tiki-listpages.php)
am i blind, or is am i looking at the wrong spot? the forum search engine was no help
Sorry, i feel stupid for asking this...
You could be blind : P
https://www.acidmods.com/Wiki/tiki-index.php?page=PSP%20UMD%20Door%20Mod (https://www.acidmods.com/Wiki/tiki-index.php?page=PSP%20UMD%20Door%20Mod)
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Thanks Bookmarked! since i might not find it again :)
following the video's i think i would have to do everything all the way to him removing the back lid, then screw out the cage in what looked like screws.. then remove the cage of the umd tray, and maybe saw something of it for more space, and then remove the laser and the motor and stuff like that.. then fit the (maybe modified) cage back on, and the lid.. then I've removed the UMD tray successfully.. thats theoretically speaking
Now I'm getting my hands on 4 of those SIXAXIS batteries, just hope my g/f will order them for me as my card wont go online for some reason. :)
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It's not a problem, charge your PSP Battery fully, and messure it, your battery i´will have like 4v. I don't think your PSP exploded yet, so go ahead, 0.1 is nothing.
Haha..as a side note, nobody attempt this unless you are 100% sure of what you're doing. If you mix the wires wrong..may as well forget about contending that beauty pageant you were thinking about.
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how can i connect this wrongly?!?!
its plus to plus and minus to minus...
its as simple as that
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how can i connect this wrongly?!?!
its plus to plus and minus to minus...
its as simple as that
It was geared towards noobies attempting your project.
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Just a thought, after you go through with this and assuming it is successful you should do some tests to find out the battery life.
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sure. but there is a battery screen showing estimated time left ^^
but i could do more tests.. leave it on while playing MP3 and such...
i assume it will be success full, just need to order the darn batteries..
easier said than done when your card is ruined ^^
considering that its nice to rip a umd game or two whit out the need of a friends psp.. i might try to make the UMD drive external. if it only has 4 connectiors, it would be fairly easy to fit it to a USB mini plug. and maybe have that lose in the empty umd tray (well its not empty if i can get 4 batteries in it :) )
lets see, this is just if it's not to much work :) it would be nice for everyone that has no umd drive in their psp :)
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sure. but there is a battery screen showing estimated time left ^^
but i could do more tests.. leave it on while playing MP3 and such...
i assume it will be success full, just need to order the darn batteries..
easier said than done when your card is ruined ^^
considering that its nice to rip a umd game or two whit out the need of a friends psp.. i might try to make the UMD drive external. if it only has 4 connectiors, it would be fairly easy to fit it to a USB mini plug. and maybe have that lose in the empty umd tray (well its not empty if i can get 4 batteries in it :) )
lets see, this is just if it's not to much work :) it would be nice for everyone that has no umd drive in their psp :)
The external umd idea is very smart.
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well its really possible, here is an example of how.. (the pin tips is thanks to pvp, he used it for another thing)
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk263%2FSigudian%2Fumd.png&hash=1bf542dee09f39c435e3d4bd3da5d99f223878e3)
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well its really possible, here is an example of how.. (the pin tips is thanks to pvp, he used it for another thing)
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk263%2FSigudian%2Fumd.png&hash=1bf542dee09f39c435e3d4bd3da5d99f223878e3)
Last time I tryed the needle thing my whole ribbon was :censored:ed >_>
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same here, i tried it with my slim fpc and it just totally :censored:ed it up :)
Thank god I'm not the only one... oh and how the hell did you jump to 1k posts
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Thank god I'm not the only one... oh and how the hell did you jump to 1k posts
he probably had a macro that spamed then deleted his posts again... nah j/k
well soldering the on those small pins on the mobo ain't nothing for me, what about just parting the ribbon cable and solder directly to the lead?
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awesome juice and lots of it :D , also soldering to the fpc aint too good either, ribbon just melts 0_o
The gold one doesn't melt.
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...how did the triple battery work out? Or did we all move on to the external UMD drive?
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I'm an R/C hobbyist when I'm not on my Psp. Nowadays Li-poly, as opposed to li-ion, packs are used in the hobby. They are slightly more volatile than li-ion but are capable of higher charging capacities and weight ratios. They come in all sorts of shapes sizes and charging capacities. The real dangers come into play when you overcharge/overdischarge packs. If a li-poly pack becomes bloated throw it away, or over charge it in a controlled environment for a cool fireworks show that you wouldn't want to happed in your UMD case. Lipoly is not noob friendly, but I have successfully used them on R/C helicopters which can fall quite hard. They are what basically accelerated the R/C heli hobby to "main stream" if you could say that.
Has anyone tried Li-poly packs in a Psp?
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...how did the triple battery work out? Or did we all move on to the external UMD drive?
I am extremely broke after x-mas (am living of my mother and my g/f's parents lol) but I get my paycheck soon(next week or so).
And to add to that, there is something wrong with my card so it wont go online, so I have to wait till the bank sends me a new one..
after that! I'll buy 2x PS3 SIXAXIS batteries and do this! :victory:
This is a really simple mod, but still ill create a tutorial for those still not sure of how to do this, but if the acidmod staff wants it to be only available to the 100 posts and up club, then it will be so.
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Haha, I want to try it, it all makes sense, I just wasn't if psp's blew up or if it really is safe despite voltage differences. Searing battery burns don't seem fun atm.
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Haha, I want to try it, it all makes sense, I just wasn't if psp's blew up or if it really is safe despite voltage differences. Searing battery burns don't seem fun atm.
Good luck, here is a mini guide if you want (put together in a jiffy) you should only need to know the theory of batteries and some PS3 SIXAXIS batteries, and this pic :)
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You will need to put the stock battery board in there, and solder it to these pins, then solder the SIXAXIS Batterys to the pads on the Battery Board.
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please post up measurements on the sixaxis battery when you get them. I would like to find out how many can go along with other things :clap:
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Open up a PSP battery, desolder the 2 battery leads, then solder your new battery's leads to the corresponding spots on the battery's board.
If you want a cheaper solution that'll give you about 5Ah @ ~3.6v, use 6 NiMH AA batteries. Pretty much do the same as you'd do with the sixaxis ones, but put the AAs into 2 sets of 3 AAs in series, then wire those "packs" parallel to each other and to the battery board.
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yeah, but will the aa's fit. It might but won't allow room for much else. Li-ion, saves more space, and I want to look more into the li-poly posted above
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yeah, but will the aa's fit. It might but won't allow room for much else. Li-ion, saves more space, and I want to look more into the li-poly posted above
6 AA batteries fit in the area of the UMD drive, they just add a bit of thickness. My reasoning is: 6 AAs cost ~$10, 4 sixaxis batteries cost, well, a lot more.
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6 AA batteries fit in the area of the UMD drive, they just add a bit of thickness. My reasoning is: 6 AAs cost ~$10, 4 sixaxis batteries cost, well, a lot more.
Also if you have an old RC control car u dont use anymore usually those have big batterries ina flat strip maybe u could try that.
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this good and all but a HDD it more appeling to me then battery life. Then again i could mount them on the external of the umd drive and make a cover. That would leave room for the HDD and the cam.hum
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this good and all but a HDD it more appeling to me then battery life. Then again i could mount them on the external of the umd drive and make a cover. That would leave room for the HDD and the cam.hum
it all comes down to priorities and what you want your psp to be. everyone has a different opinion and their own psp(s) to make their dreams come alive. personally i'd go with the extra batteries and external UMD, utilizing a large MS.
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it all comes down to priorities and what you want your psp to be. everyone has a different opinion and their own psp(s) to make their dreams come alive. personally i'd go with the extra batteries and external UMD, utilizing a large MS.
Its not very realistic mod making of external UMD drive :D. Try to dissasemble PSP and U found why.It is not about 4 wires ;)
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I agree with I30, everybody has their own interests in mind, and that is what makes this forum appealing, along with the many alternatives of mods, created and in progress.
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6 AA batteries fit in the area of the UMD drive, they just add a bit of thickness. My reasoning is: 6 AAs cost ~$10, 4 sixaxis batteries cost, well, a lot more.
You never tryed it, did you?
AA do NOT fit in the UMD Door, I tried it before, they don't fit, period.
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Does anyone know where I can find the phyiscal dimensions for a ps3 controller battery? I googled and it only wants to give me place where they can be bought or the controller's dimensions. I want to fit like 3-4 of these bad boys with the UMD tray intact, or if anyone knows of a better battery?
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i dont know about the SIXAXIS battery but be sure to pick up one of these bad boys too ^^ http://www.psp411.com/show/product/787/0/Sony_Battery.html (http://www.psp411.com/show/product/787/0/Sony_Battery.html)
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What part of the mobo does this go in??
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there are pictures above where to wire it, but something tells me your lost :confused:
yeah I am with you on finding the dimensions of the sixaxis battery
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You never tryed it, did you?
AA do NOT fit in the UMD Door, I tried it before, they don't fit, period.
6 AA batteries fit in the area of the UMD drive, they just add a bit of thickness.
They fit in the area, but they stick out a bit. Not much of a problem, in my opinion, price comes first for me, even if its a tad bigger.
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I currently have a 3600mah battery, but its generic and i got it off ebay...i don't think it lives up to it. My goal, power a hdd, the psp, and maybe an led or 2...so I want to get the best bang for the buck
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yeah I would like to get 3600mah or more internal without the big x2 battery. So i am considering wiring in the li-ion pack from my sony backup battery in conjunction with another unaltered battery, but if i can get several sixaxis batteries in the umd area that would be ideal
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Man is that guy crazy rc batteries are heavy and bulky. sure i have a few fast chargers for them and have (let me go count) 40 of them not being used but i would not use them at all in the psp.
so let me get this straight for get the middle prong that is for the booting i know that from the pandora bat i made. but i just connect the extra bat to the coresponding pins (-) (+) no hooking up on the mobo.
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rc batteries are mostly heavy and bulky but not all of them. I have seen a couple that are not heavy and bulky. although there are better options than an rc battery...
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Man is that guy crazy rc batteries are heavy and bulky. sure i have a few fast chargers for them and have (let me go count) 40 of them not being used but i would not use them at all in the psp.
so let me get this straight for get the middle prong that is for the booting i know that from the pandora bat i made. but i just connect the extra bat to the coresponding pins (-) (+) no hooking up on the mobo.
Some of them are not that big. only about a cm in thickness and charge in like an hour.
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Is it safe to run 2 or 3 in this case batteries in parallel? Are there any things to consider when doing this, or any problems that could come from doing a mod like this?
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I dont realy see any problems that can occure that would be bad but then agin i have seen some wierd things happen. i had a led explode on my face once that hurt. It was installed by the manufature on my computer.
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As long as you have proper voltages, no problems. Its just not a good idea to take just any voltage battery and slap it in there.
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im thinking about doing this myself, mainly so i could use the blouetooth mod without a massive drain lol
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I bet you could install a switch for the bluetooth,
I guess it would have to break the line for the power on the bt module, on the plus side would be preferable.
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Is it possible to buy a psp battery socket somewhere, mouser? has anyone found a place? Not the power socket (yellow thing), the battery socket on the mainboard that is indicated on the 1st page of the thread.
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I specifically said Li-poly batteries not any old R/C batteries. Li-Poly are lighter and capable of higher charging capacities than the 40 R/C batteries you have laying around. I personally wouldn't use Li-poly due to safety concerns as opposed to weight or bulk concerns.
Just a question out of curiosity. At what battery voltage does the PSP cease to function?
If its > 2.7V then over discharging would not be an issue, which a leading cause of battery "malfunction".
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3690260570423705609&q=li-poly+fire&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3690260570423705609&q=li-poly+fire&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)
Thats a 4000Mah pack being over discharged in a controlled environment...the street I guess. The same thing can happen when you try to recharge an over discharged battery. Basically if you use them with care they are the greatest things since sliced bread, or a hand grenade.
I ordered 4 of those SIXAXIS batteries...got em for $15 a piece :D
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actually i just figured out that my nyko stereo system for my psp has a 3200 Mah battery in it running at 3.7 volts, its about 3 inchs from being as tall as my ipod, and about 1/3 the thickness, think i might wind up doing mine with this ;)
also, yea a switch isnt a bad idea, not sure how i would rig it up yet, when i put a bluetooth into it can i not use the on off switch already on the board? its like a hold switch for 2 seconds thing but i think i could make something work, like, actually mount the bluetooth to the umd door or something, that way i can access it, and the miniusb charger! so maybe i wont have to use this battery.... hmmm... sorry, im rambling, but thats a few ideas.
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why not add another switch to the system. you could maybe fit one on the memorystick side like in the led mod. except on the out side instead of the inside.
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not a bad idea, but i think ill try to keep it simple and just hit the button from the inside :p
thatd be fine with me. i dont want to cut on my psp any more than necessary ya know?