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Title: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 17, 2008, 07:31:58 PM
Status Update.

I Have now restructured the version 1.7 nethostfs source code so that compiles on both BIG endian and LITTLE endian computers.

I want to thank both Dark Alex and Ahman who did all the fine work on this to begin with and who provided help so I could get it working.

I am making a new video of the NSLU2 running a mini access point and serving files to the PSP wirelessly, without a network connection of any kind.

The code now supports 10 PSPs at the same time.

You will be able to plug in a wireless joystick, a mini access point, the NSLU2, a hard drive, and a battery.
Put it all in a bag and bring it in the room of PSPs and they can all play different games or even the same game.

I am now concentrating on getting remotejoy incorporated.
I am running a Logitech Wingman wireless game pad so the receiver for that can also go in the same bag.

Can we say look ma no wires ?

As soon as remotejoy is completed I will add it to the tutorials on the installs.

Later and have a great day.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS 07/17/08
Post by: Sanctus on July 17, 2008, 07:44:50 PM
wow thats  :censored:ing awesome. Can't wait for the tutorial  :tup:
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS 07/17/08
Post by: Ch4rL13 on July 17, 2008, 07:45:36 PM
Ohh Mah Gawd!!
does this mean it finnished? o_O
History in the makin
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS 07/17/08
Post by: PspKicks316 on July 17, 2008, 08:19:06 PM
That's great and all but use ONE topic, don't make a new topic every friggin day/update/whatever. Just use ONE. >_>
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS 07/17/08
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 17, 2008, 09:44:41 PM
Ok will change the name of this one to updates and use just one
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: j.s2ghetto on July 17, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
once agian sony is trying to steal modders ideas http://pspupdates.qj.net/Jack-Tretton-Sony-considering-PSP-with-hard-drive-internal-memory/pg/49/aid/122241 (http://pspupdates.qj.net/Jack-Tretton-Sony-considering-PSP-with-hard-drive-internal-memory/pg/49/aid/122241)
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Tri-edge on July 17, 2008, 11:22:35 PM
they can steal the ideas all they want as long as they can get it to work (and so I can buy it  :w00t: )
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 18, 2008, 09:03:32 AM
IT will take them at least a year.

Then it will take us months to a year to break down whatever protection they put into it
to keep us from running CFW on it.

It still won't let us plug all the kewl stuff we want into it.

So as far as I'm concerned. I don't give a  :censored:

Besides one other thing, They did theirs, WE did ours !!!!
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: j.s2ghetto on July 18, 2008, 09:24:32 AM
ya and the modders way will be made to expand for more mods and i really doubt sony is going to release all the info on theres so ur right
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: TaSlAyEr on July 18, 2008, 06:16:58 PM
hey finnaly some one does some thing awsome  to the psp lol good job on hard work well done. i saw the vids off the mod in action and i was wowed again nice job man  :hifive:
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: VoX on July 19, 2008, 09:48:52 AM
Awesome dude! But keep working on the XM4 boards!
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 21, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
Status Update.

I have completed the schematic for the USB 2.0 High Speed 4 port enhancement daughter board for the xm4.

I have nethostfs working and I am only tracking down one bug that is bothering me.

I have written the structure for remotejoy for a linux system like ours and I am receiving signals from my wireless joystick.

I have a prototype battery pack running for the NSLU2. According to my calculations, the portable system should run for about 4.5 hours on a charge. That is powering the NSLU2, an 80 gig usb drive, the wireless joystick, an APC wireless access point, a 1 gig microdrive, and a palm pilot.

Oh by the way, I have an old palm pilot I had laying around functioning as a display and keyboard control unit for the NSLU2.

I am working on that software to make it talk to the PSP so a PSP can be the keyboard and display for control of the NSLU2 and eventually the xm4 system.

The system is tying together. I am working on another demo video to show wireless access to the whole system.

I hope these updates are keeping people interested, this is a great project, I just never realized how big it was going to be.

Take care - have a great day
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: SENCATO on July 21, 2008, 04:34:52 PM
I WAS READING IN ONE OF YOUR POSTS THAT YOU WERE OPEN TO IDEAS IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN ADD BLUETOOTH CAPBILITY TO THIS MOD I WAS ALSO WONDERING IS THERE ANY WAY TO ADD MORE A CODEC THROUGH LINUX SO WE CAN PLAY DIVX FILES. THANKS
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 21, 2008, 09:47:50 PM
Yes there is a very simple way to add bluetooth to our project.

You plug it in. You can use any one of the inexpensive bluetooth usb dongles that are out there
that start at $5.00.

There is already a bluetooth stack for linux. And yes I have it on my list. I wanted to use bluetooth headphones with the PSP.

We are looking at defining packets that audio can be shipped from the PSP to our interface and then sent out the bluetooth interface. It would also work the other way, to be an input.

We are working on defining standards for communication to the PSP right now.

I already know someone else that is working on a divx decoder for the PSP right now.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: ApheX on July 22, 2008, 12:39:43 AM
this is brilliant news guys, good work. hope to see the full version in all it's glory soon! :)
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: SENCATO on July 22, 2008, 06:54:37 PM
Wow dude your Amazing im a Freshman in highschool and im just beginning to get this stuff your progress has inspired me to learn programing i actually wrote my first c++ program yesterday sorry if im off topic but good job.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 22, 2008, 08:54:10 PM
That is what this is all about. If you learn to program then you can add on feature to this system and make it do what you want it to do.

Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 22, 2008, 09:12:29 PM
Status update.

Been working on the board layout for the xm4 usb 2.0 high speed usb daughter board. It is coming alone good. When the first layout is done I will release the pictures here of the layout and the schematics so people can see what is going on.

Still working on that bug in nethostfs. I am chasing down a random error that causes the PSP to crash during a file read. I just wrote a whole bunch of testing code to try and trap the error so I can find out what is causing it.

I am thinking that the portable power supply will just be a 12 volt 5 amp gel cell. Then we will just wire up several cigarette lighter sockets. This will allow us to plug in 12 volt to 5 volt power adapters. All it will take is very little soldering and the power system will be modular to be able to add additional outputs when needed. That way if you are using Ipods or any other things you can just plug them in and charge them.

The charger has a cigarette lighter plug on the end and just plugs into one of the sockets to charge the main battery up.

Depending on what extra you want to plug in Radio Shack has all these really cool power adapters to fit everything from laptops to cell phones, ect.

If you want to build your own power supplies then I will also post the schematics for regulators using the LM317 adjustable voltage regulators.

I have shot the next round of video demonstrating the nethostfs and the PSP. I am editing it so that it will be better quality and I will post it soon.

Thats it for now.

Have a great day.




Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: jas1137 on July 23, 2008, 02:43:26 PM
I have a couple questions if you wouldent mind answering. They are simple yes or no questions. When i finish modding the NSLU2 and add a battery will i be able to take the NSLU2 and my psp and my storage device(ipod or external harddrive or whatever) to where ever i want and load up any game and play anywhere as long as i have the NSLU2 with a storage device connected? Also do i need a wireless usb card to connect my psp to the NSLU2 or is the wireless usb card you are talking about just for others to connect? I am assuming that my psp plugs into the NSLU2 and thats how i get to load my games and the wireless usb card would be for me and 10 other psp's to connect to it wirelessly? Also do you have a rough estimate on when the battery will be done because im going camping this weekend and i really hope you can get it done. Even if it is something really simple like running the NSLU2 off some 6V batteries.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 23, 2008, 05:09:16 PM
There are two forms of the software.

usbhostfs where your psp connects through the usb connector to the NSLU2 and you run wired to the   NSLU2.

nethostfs where your PSP connects through the wifi of the PSP to a mini wireless access point. This mode would support up to 10 PSPs at the same time.
You walk into an area, turn the system on and any other people in the same area can connect to your mass storage system if you want them to.

Both modes are totally portable for about 5 hours of operation from the battery system.

Yes I am taking video and making a tutorial right now of the battery system. I will post it later tonight.
The system runs from a 12 volt battery. Uses cigarette lighter sockets so if you have a cigarette lighter plug to power your PSP you can.
The power supply for the NSLU2 and the USB hard drive can be purchased from Radio Shack.

You only have to do some very simple wiring of the plugs to the battery and you are ready to go.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 23, 2008, 08:27:02 PM
Status Update:

I have posted the tutorial for the Battery Pack for the NSLU2 and associated peripherals.
Everything will run off this battery for about 4.5 to 5 hours at full tilt with wireless running.

If you shut off the access point and run usbhostfs then you can run for over 5 hours on a charge.

I am not done with nethostfs for release, I am still chasing that bug. I had several requests for the
battery power system, so I was working on that.

I have a video I am editing now that shows the battery system in use with the access point and
running nethostfs so the entire thing is portable and wireless. I will finish editing it and get that
posted so people can see it in operation.

I do need to finish debugging the nethostfs and release that for the next software install. This is my next priority and will stick to it.

Then remotejoy is the next one on my list.

So that is the status of what is happening. The tutorial for Battery Supply has been added to the main tutorial string USB HOST/MASS storage project.

Have a great day !
 
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 24, 2008, 06:07:31 PM
Here is the newest video I have been promising

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmcwpK-S9PE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmcwpK-S9PE)

This is the status, IT WORKS !!!

Still small bug I am chasing and working on remotejoy.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 26, 2008, 12:18:43 AM
Status Update.

Testing the Nethostfs, it looks like I have found the bug and will finish testing of Nethostfs.

I have a new part that will double the time the portable system runs on batteries. You will be
able to use a battery that is smaller or use the same battery I am using and get 9 to 10 hours
or operation on a single charge.

This is a switching power supply that gives 92% power transfer without loss do to heat.

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmysite.verizon.net%2Frestxsa0%2Fmorex60big.gif&hash=ebb19f5534ffc5f6908f0be52718f916bb2c5abb)

It will run from 9.0 volts up to 16 volts

It will give 5.0 volts at 6. amps and
12 volts at 2.0 amps

With a set of plugs for the different devices it can supply all the power needed for anything you
want to plug in

Have a great day !


Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 27, 2008, 07:00:56 PM
The project is back online and on course.

My differences with kicks has been settled like gentlemen.

Thank you for your patience.

Have a great day !
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 29, 2008, 09:17:31 PM
Status update:

I am concentrating on the tutorial for nethostfs for the NSLU2.

As soon as I release the tutorial, everyone will be able to build NSLU2 from the modified
source code. I would much rather people work from the source code and see
what it takes to put the system together.

Much more satisfying to make it than just slap it in.


Later, Have a great day.

Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: folklord36 on July 29, 2008, 09:35:08 PM
Hey im dieing to see your xm4 in action how bout some pics ive never seen one in refrence to a psp. I shiped that stuff yesterday btw.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 29, 2008, 10:55:45 PM
Currently until I get another shipment I have used all the xm4 boards on my other project.

I will not be getting more for another couple weeks.

Thanks for shipping that stuff.

BTW believe it or not I am running a web server on my NSLU2 at the same time I am doing
program development.

You can see it at: http://71.254.185.108:8080

Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on July 31, 2008, 09:14:52 AM
Not much progress, Had some other fires I had to attend to for work.

Still writing up the install for nethostfs for wireless connection.

I decided to do an install program as well as step by step build the
software yourself. For the people that are just in a hurry to get it
running.

Seriously, I spend more time doing the documentation and step
by step tutorials than I do developing. But I want everyone that
has a desire to work on this to be able to do it.

Take care, Have a great day.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 01, 2008, 02:10:04 PM
And I thought I wrote a lot in college.

Yes I am still working on the tutorials.

I have other people read them first and make sure I am not talking over
the heads of the people I am trying to write for.

I work so close on the project, sometimes I forget and take
things for granted that someone should know something they don't

I will make sure that the tuts are ready asap.

Added a new project to another of my lists.

Breaking down the code on the PSP headphone serial ports.
So we can plug in external control devices to that port and use
them to control the PSP.

Thats it for now, working away on the tuts and software for this
project.

Have a great day.!
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: niko86 on August 01, 2008, 05:07:31 PM
Your a one man development house gr8npwrfl  :clap: I should be getting my NSLU2 soon, now you got the battery pack worked out i got something else to save for  :greedy:

I only wished we had things like radioshack in the UK ... well we do but they cost like 4 times more than in the US.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 01, 2008, 09:12:29 PM
Well what you could do is make up a list of what you need. We could gather it all together here and send it parcel post
at US prices and label it as a gift so you would not have to pay the duty.

Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: niko86 on August 02, 2008, 03:13:31 PM
I wouldnt want to be a hassle your a busy man and got your own life, i'll try and find some way of getting the supplies i'll need. If i get really desperate i might take you up on the offer though hehe

Not sure if you noticed this thread on QJ

http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=142897

He also i trying to add on some sort of host storage to the psp, as a secondary part of his touchscreen product. Yours and his projects are both IMO pretty revolutionary. I'm also sure he said he is getting power for it through the psp  headphone remote port port, mighta misread though. Links up abit with what you were talking about in Electro's joystick mod thread.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: TheVirus on August 02, 2008, 04:17:59 PM
I've read through all of this and I'm not sure if I missed it, in either thread, but is it possible to use a laptop hard drive (in an enclosure), connected directly to the PSP? I have a Black & Decker Pocket Power that takes a USB/plug connection, so battery life shouldn't be a major issue. I don't need any fancy Wifi stuff, but I'm guessing that's required for this to work, isn't it?

Thanks.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: pax on August 02, 2008, 04:26:19 PM
I've read through all of this and I'm not sure if I missed it, in either thread, but is it possible to use a laptop hard drive (in an enclosure), connected directly to the PSP?

ok its defnately not that simple, read this https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=18521.0 (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=18521.0)
and try using the search button

p.s. welcome to Acidmods
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: TheVirus on August 02, 2008, 04:59:13 PM
ok its defnately not that simple, read this https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=18521.0 (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=18521.0)
and try using the search button

p.s. welcome to Acidmods

Thanks for the link. Seems I need an enclosure that goes into Host mode. I'll look into one of those OTG cases to use, maybe gr8npwrfl can suggest a few. My goal is to just store movies/games and transfer them over to my 4GB stick. Going on some very long trips in the near future and wanted something portable. If all else fails, I can just use my laptop, but it's a behemoth.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: niko86 on August 03, 2008, 05:08:21 AM
Thanks for the link. Seems I need an enclosure that goes into Host mode. I'll look into one of those OTG cases to use, maybe gr8npwrfl can suggest a few. My goal is to just store movies/games and transfer them over to my 4GB stick. Going on some very long trips in the near future and wanted something portable. If all else fails, I can just use my laptop, but it's a behemoth.

This projects aim is to remove the need to transfer files onto the memory stick from your hardrive but to run the movies music games etc directly off the harddrive.

What you will need is an nslu2 and load unslung linux onto it to act as a middle man between your psp and harddrive. Gr8npwrfl has all the tutorials made showing how to do that. Also he made a tutorial for making a battery system to run the nslu2 and your harddrive.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: hdx on August 03, 2008, 04:55:47 PM
It's very exciting and amazing mod but still unpractical. I hope it will get internalized someday. Keep on working Gr8npwrfl.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 03, 2008, 07:51:14 PM
I am already laying out the internal board.

Then entire system will be 3/4 inch by 3 inches
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: four20team on August 05, 2008, 05:27:35 AM
OK. First of all i would like to say so far so good bro but i have been surfing for awhile now with no luck so far. i have my own method but dont know if it would work but hear me out

i have had my zune hdd for a while now and reading your posts over and ove i think i might have a better solution......maybe.

This could be done as a internal or external mod(Phat: both; Slim ?)

1)strip a Datel 4gb hdd of its hard drive
2)since i have a zune 30gb you would need a 1.8"ZIF/CE HardDisk to 1.8"IDE Converter(look on ebay, cheap!)
3)connect the hdd to the datel hdd board, hook it up to the psp, format and TADA?!?!?!

I am a reall noob when it comes to hardwaremods but if you honestly think it would work, i will buy the parts and infor you guys, so let me know!!!! i dont even know what the limit is for the datel!!!!

These are what you would need for the mod:
1. PSP (of course)
2. Datel 4gb hdd
3. The 1.8"ZIF/CE HardDisk to 1.8"IDE Converter
4. Zune 30gb hdd (toshiba mk3008gal)
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Jumbo on August 05, 2008, 06:07:25 AM
wont work the limit on the datel is 8gb
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: four20team on August 05, 2008, 06:11:16 AM
Anything else to suggest? ive been reading bout that neo thing a ma jig. could i use that somehow instead of the datel thing?
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: four20team on August 05, 2008, 10:11:22 AM
ok. i think i might have it, by george!!!!

now there is this Piece of hardware called  Neo converter Pad 2 in 1 and the Maufactuer accually has a forum up on how to remove the 4gb restriction by breaking a solder point and it allows up to 32gb:
http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,4105.0.html

so i am thinking that once i do this i could use the Zune HDD and the ZIF to IDE adapter connect it to the CF slot on the NEOPad then hook it up to the PSP. now with this in mind as a internal mod, i dont think everything  will fit considering the PCB looks alot larger that The Datel one.

Thoughts Anyone?

Here are the links of the hardware that i would use for this mod

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,4105.0.html

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-8-ZIF-Hard-Disk-to-Laptop-1-8-micro-IDE-HD-Adapter_W0QQitemZ290249491186QQihZ019QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/30GB-MK3008GAL-Toshiba-Hard-Drive-for-iPod-Video-Zune_W0QQitemZ380052159573QQihZ025QQcategoryZ94930QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Verbal Herbalist on August 05, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
ok. i think i might have it, by george!!!!

now there is this Piece of hardware called  Neo converter Pad 2 in 1 and the Maufactuer accually has a forum up on how to remove the 4gb restriction by breaking a solder point and it allows up to 32gb:
http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,4105.0.html

so i am thinking that once i do this i could use the Zune HDD and the ZIF to IDE adapter connect it to the CF slot on the NEOPad then hook it up to the PSP. now with this in mind as a internal mod, i dont think everything  will fit considering the PCB looks alot larger that The Datel one.

Thoughts Anyone?

Here are the links of the hardware that i would use for this mod

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,4105.0.html

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-8-ZIF-Hard-Disk-to-Laptop-1-8-micro-IDE-HD-Adapter_W0QQitemZ290249491186QQihZ019QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/30GB-MK3008GAL-Toshiba-Hard-Drive-for-iPod-Video-Zune_W0QQitemZ380052159573QQihZ025QQcategoryZ94930QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Hey everyone! I would have wished my first post to be in the New to the Board area but I just had to comment on a few things here first  :whoosh:

To Four20Team:

You have a good idea. It would take a bit of research but I think it could be possible to do this. I would also like to contribute as I have the following you make note of.  Now I understand I have no adminstrator nor real right to say this, but you should really start a new topic for this. I'll be sure to help then! 

I mean after all this thread does belong to gr8npwrfl's project. (I still like your idea!)

To gr8npwrfl:

This is fantastic work! You really have done a lot and I love your project! I hope you feel very accomplished because it is well deserved. I've been following this for quite sometime now. However, I don't have any helpful suggestions (You seem to be doing fine, hehe), I just thought I would say great job and terrific work!!
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 05, 2008, 08:21:55 PM
Thank you.

That is what makes this site great. Everyone can come up with their own ideas.

The problem you are going to run into with your version is there is still software.
The compact flash to IDE interface takes drivers to run it. I have one. I have
compact flash to USB host interfaces also.

The problem with that interface to the IDE drive is there is hardware that translates
compact flash card memory seeks to disk drive seeks. Compact flash reads to IDE
reads. Some of the people I know that have been playing with this are only able to get
certain types of small hard drives to work from certain manufacturers.

The jumper you are clipping is modifying the hardware translation limit to 32 gig.
So even if you get it to work with a 250 gig hard drive your limit will always be 32 gig.
Unless you want to redesign the gate array that runs it.

With the advancement in storage technology 32 gig of dual SDHC cards and the adapter
are already in the under $100 range.

The reason we are doing the mod the way I am working on it is to interface so many other
things than just storage. All sorts of usb devices.

I am not saying not to try your approach, it is a fantastic idea and learning medium. Just
bang for the buck is not there.

I just finished writing the installer for nethostfs on linux. Still working on the tutorial and
want to finish that by this weekend.

The auto-routing software has been working on the board for three days now. Trying to keep
the number of layers on the PCB to just 4. It may have to go to 5 to keep the size and form
factor that I want.

Another batch of xm4 boards will be coming in next week and I will make sure and get some
pictures of them set inside the drive bay of a PSP.

I am in a dilemma as to if I should spend any more time to get remotejoy working on linux.
I have all the parts coming in next week for the serial interface to the headphone port.
I am thinking that I will just take a PS2 joystick put a small pic inside and plug it into the
serial/headphone port. Then rewrite remapsp to remap the joystick keys to the PSP buttons.
Plug and play no wiring required inside the PSP.

I would like some feedback on this as I think this will benefit many more people than requiring
a person that wants a joystick to do the USB/Mass Storage mod.

Give me some ideas guys


Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: SENCATO on August 05, 2008, 08:57:20 PM
gr8npwrfl dude im not an expert but i think, I THINK only an opinion :help: that you should finish the internal xm4 board mod. because of the its the main reason i joined acidmods and joystick to work with remote joy is just likek icing to cake to me i dont know its just an opinion but anyways its your decision what you spend your time, and i can just say youve done a terrific job so far thanks. :tup:
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: four20team on August 05, 2008, 09:38:13 PM
Thanks For the input guys.

the reason why i was even considering this kind of mod is that i see it as a very mobile solution even as an extrnal mod. to me anything over 50gb really is overkill for any type of handheld console. I'm looking at everything in a neat little package on the back of my psp. and another reason is alot of people upgrade their ipod or zune hdd and they have the old one. this mod is even cheaper if you have the older ipod hdd because it already has an ide interface.

as for drivers i have a buddy who is familiar with irshell trying to workout that.

in a nutshell guys, my little project's goal is: lots of storage, minimal amount of modification, and less headaches.

just for fun, today i picked up a 60 gb ipod photo and was wondering if there was anyway to use this as a usbhost with ipod linux , irshell or whatever. so plz let me know bout this.......

thanks guys.

ps there should be a forum for ideas like mine so other people can get out their ideas cuz this whole "psp HDD" thing is still pretty bleak throughout the web
 
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Tri-edge on August 06, 2008, 07:55:15 AM


I am in a dilemma as to if I should spend any more time to get remotejoy working on linux.
I have all the parts coming in next week for the serial interface to the headphone port.
I am thinking that I will just take a PS2 joystick put a small pic inside and plug it into the
serial/headphone port. Then rewrite remapsp to remap the joystick keys to the PSP buttons.
Plug and play no wiring required inside the PSP.

I would like some feedback on this as I think this will benefit many more people than requiring
a person that wants a joystick to do the USB/Mass Storage mod.

Give me some ideas guys

I think you should do the remapsp first because a ps2 controller through serial would better would be easier to accomplish then soldering the entire psp.  And I really want a ps2psp
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: niko86 on August 06, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
I would like some feedback on this as I think this will benefit many more people than requiring
a person that wants a joystick to do the USB/Mass Storage mod.

Give me some ideas guys

Theres a guy on QJ trying to sort out a linux version of remotejoy as part of a project he is working on. That might bring forth a linux remotejoy. So perhaps put that on the backburner.

The xm4 sounds like its coming along great :D

Sounds like the ps2 pad mode would be "simpler" i say that i wouldnt know where to begin :P

We all owe you a beer i think lol Should be a beer donation button!  :drunk:
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Tri-edge on August 06, 2008, 09:47:55 PM
who know maybe doing a smaller project on the side will help relieve stress and maybe give you ideas for the remotejoy. that and I really want a ps2 controller on my psp. 
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 06, 2008, 11:21:47 PM
Status Update.

The autorouter finished the usb xm4 board routing this afternoon. I have only 52 errors to sort
out and see if I am smarter than the autorouter.

I have about 5 more pages to write on the nethostfs for the NSLU2 host.

I have finished the auto install program for nethostfs and I will have to take
my NSLU2 back to stock in order to test the install and make sure that
I have not something left over in the directories to make it work.

I am not going to abandon remotejoy but I am putting it on the back
burner. I need to finish the usb board for the xm4 and I am going to start
writing the software to marry a remote joystick to the headphone serial
port.

I am checking the web to see if I can find a source for the connector
that marries to the PS2 joystick.

Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: folklord36 on August 09, 2008, 06:36:15 PM
Great update getting closer to the xm4 release its great you have gotten this far the final product will be hands down the best psp mod ever and a base for so much more development to come i hope to see this continue with compatibility on future hand held consoles that can run Linux and the next psps. :clap:
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 10, 2008, 11:34:12 AM
Ok,

Here is the alpha version of nethostfs for the NSLU2 that people are working on.

Remember this is alpha and it will more than likely crash, but it will not hurt any
your files.

This is a work in progress, I am only putting the executable here until
the code is done then it will be given out as source.

On your NSLU2 log into the system with ssh with user root and your password

make a home directory

mkdir home

start winscp and change to your new home directory

copy nethostfs to your home directory

make it executable

chmod +x nethostfs

run the program

./nethostfs /share/hdd/data/HDD_1_1_1/ ( the name of your game directory )

So if your NSLU2 is 192.168.1.77 then goto the configuration
of irshell and set the ip of the nethost system to 192.168.1.77
Set the name of your access point in another entry.

You are now running a wireless host play with it and give
me feedback.

Note: Right now there are many games that do not play.
Please check the irshell website for compatibility

 http://www.irshell.org (http://www.irshell.org)

Here is the file:

 NETHOSTFS (http://mysite.verizon.net/restxsa0/nethostfs.zip)
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: DaveBere on August 10, 2008, 01:17:43 PM
Exellent work gr8npwrf

In the NSLU2 the home directory already exists. It contains a folder httpd which contains the NSLU2 homepage
Should I create a folder inside the home folder called nethostfs or just place the nethostfs file there ?
Or is this home directory you refer to in the nslu2 flash or hard drive 1 ?

Thanks and sorry if these are noob-ish questions.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 10, 2008, 09:17:56 PM
No just put the file in the root of the home directory
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Fou on August 11, 2008, 12:57:59 PM
I think I've find something who seems to be interesting...
tell me what you think about...
A linux system look like an usb key....

http://www.calao-store.fr/ (http://www.calao-store.fr/)

Sorry for english, like all illiterate, I'm french ^^
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 11, 2008, 03:48:46 PM
We already looked at it.

It won't work the USB port is 1.1 so it will only transfer data at less than 12 Mbit/second

It can not be expanded to add a different usb port.

in French

Nous avons déjà examiné.

Il ne fonctionnera pas le port USB est de 1,1 il ne transférer des données à moins de 12 Mbit / seconde

Il ne peut être étendu à ajouter un autre port USB.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: mfcds on August 15, 2008, 10:45:10 PM
Hello! I don't know if I got it right, but would this work if I got my pc on and it have a wi-fi pci card? would it be easier or harder to word? thanks a lot! also, is this faster os slower than average Sony Memory Sticks? Thanks one more time!
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 15, 2008, 10:49:59 PM
Many people use this mode at home.

It will be slower than a memory stick because the Wifi in a PSP is only "B" mode 11 megabit ethernet.

If you use the usbhost and connect a usb cable to your PSP then it is pretty close the memory stick
speed.

The install on the PC is easier as you do not have to build the whole system.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 19, 2008, 09:28:17 PM
Status Update:

Layout for the new USB 2.0 daughter board is withing 10 corrections of being done.

I should have it completed in a week and then off to the board house to have
the first run boards made.

So I should see first run engineering boards in about 1 month.

BTW the daughter board is going to be 5 layers, 3 circuit layers, 1 ground layer, and
one power layer.

I have received all the parts to build the first 5 test boards.

I will build up two boards to do the software debugging on and will post
both still pictures and video of the first boards when they are built.

In debugging the nethostfs software, we have found the reason that nethostfs
will not run all the programs that usbhostfs will. We are working on a new
version that will be much more stable.

Look for that upgrade in the next few weeks.

I am also dividing my time in doing another usb project for the PSP.

We are doing a low speed usb host that interfaces to the serial
port on the PSP. I am already debugging the software to interface:

1. Xbox 360 wireless/wired controller
2. PS2/PS3 wireless/wired controller
3. Logitech wireless Wingman controller

4. Xbox Chatpad keyboard
5. Standard PC USB keyboard

6. USB Mouse.

Like all my mods this will be a plug in. No internal mods needed
to the PSP. Install the software and create the map of what
buttons or keys to what PSP internal buttons you want
for each game you play.

Note: this mod is NOT for mass storage devices. It is limited
to 4800 baud so it will only be for input devices or maybe
a printer interface.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on August 24, 2008, 05:05:59 PM
New nethostfs is done. ALL bugs fixed and it works completely.

Some of the original authors also worked on this and it has been
completely upgraded.

Nethostfs is now as stable as usbhostfs and plays every game I threw
at it.

I can not release it until the new CFW and add ons are released. It will
not run with the older software and plug ins.

Sorry,
 as soon as I can I will release it.

I will make the corrections on the current version and release that as
it is compatible with existing software.


Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on September 03, 2008, 11:22:10 AM
The PC board for the USB 2.0 High Speed daughter board just shipped to the PC
board maker. It will be back in about three weeks, then I will have prototypes to build.

News Flash:

Amtel has released a linux compatible chip with USB 2.0 High Speed built into the single
chip. It does full USB Host functions not just OTG specs.

I have ordered samples. We may be able to do a gen 2 with 3 chips only on a 1" by 2"
                                 board with 4 USB Host ports on it.

This would bring the cost of the USB High Speed Host board in the $50 to $55 price range
including PC board.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: folklord36 on September 03, 2008, 12:32:55 PM
Great I kinda thought it would evolve like this this amtel solution I think would be the best because it is nothing excesive just 3 chips on a PCB and maybe dome caps and resistors? so we could order the chips and make it ourselves?
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on September 03, 2008, 04:48:55 PM
For as cheap as I can have it made I will probably have the surface mount parts placed with the resistors and caps.

Any other hand installed parts a person will do themselves.

That way the cpu and memory chips can be tested and verified
running and that base OS installed so it is running when a person gets
it.

I am already working on the schematics for it.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: folklord36 on September 04, 2008, 06:13:21 AM
Wow ok thats great but this also means we have to wait like another 6 months for the new board? I think this might be the final solution do you? Im ready to buy now if it isnt too many components I might order chips and make my own and maybe wire it in a slim so that the entire thing fits inside and still have the whole umd space for an HDD and other mods Im interrested to see what these schematics look like I want to make one.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on September 04, 2008, 05:10:55 PM
No it means that certain people will get a board for testing in about 4 weeks

Please do not ask to be a tester as they have already been chosen, The people
know who they will be
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: folklord36 on September 04, 2008, 05:47:04 PM
Really! sounds great :tup: I can't wait
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: DumpsterDiver on September 16, 2008, 05:39:07 AM
I can't wait. Ever since I did my first PSP mod, I've wanted to put an Ipod hard drive in my PSP. That was almost 3 years ago. I've followed it on here since it started, and it finally looks like it will be working. Can't wait for you to release it to us.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: gr8npwrfl on October 09, 2008, 06:32:03 PM
Status update:

I got an email from the PC board maker and the prototype USB 2.0 High Speed daughter boards
should be finished this weekend. They will then ship to me in the mail and I should have
the prototypes at the end of next week.

It should take me about 1 week to build several for testing and get them out to the alpha testers.

We can see light at the end of the tunnel for the internal mass storage mod.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: folklord36 on October 09, 2008, 06:35:02 PM
OMG soooo close the long awaited MASS storage by the all gr8nprwfl!!!!! Thank you sooo much for dedicating your time and money to this project im sure everyone is just as thankful and excited for this mod as I am!
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: davbere on December 10, 2008, 04:30:08 AM
Hello gr8npwrfl,

Are there any updates on this project ?
How about the New nethostfs ?

Regards,

davbere.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: brozzarik on December 20, 2008, 04:50:28 PM
okay, heres my crazy ideas. how about using the nslu2 idea and putting the 1.8" HDD in the UMD drive slot. the only problem then is power right? well, why not buy a x2 battery pack and 4gb datel HDD, gut the HDD and put another battery in it to power the nslu2 and connected devices? then make an enclosure for the nslu2 and it's ready! also, with the extra space made by the battery and HDD enclosures, you could fit the 1.8" in the in front of the UMD, even letting you keeping the UMD drive in it.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: juice0187 on December 26, 2008, 04:30:44 AM
before this i never knew about the cool multi-tasking nslu2 i ordered one of amazon after reading this tut just for the purpose of having large amount of memory on my psp's i followed every step and got usbhostfs running along with the extras you included and unslinged to my 120gb maxtor usb hdd and got the nethostfs working but nethostfs requires the pc to be on and running putty if putty is exited it no longer serves files wirelessly.

 :#1:i congratulate you on your hard work and efforts and look forward to your final release of nethostfs. :hifive:

one question will you be releasing nethostfs 1.7 or the new one 2.1 for the compatability with irshell
only reason i can see to keep 1.7 is for hostcore but i strongly think irshell is better.

please release the beast..




Juice0187, Peace OUT
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: PhenomenalDesigns on December 26, 2008, 02:50:40 PM
Your a one man development house gr8npwrfl  :clap: I should be getting my NSLU2 soon, now you got the battery pack worked out i got something else to save for  :greedy:

I only wished we had things like radioshack in the UK ... well we do but they cost like 4 times more than in the US.
The equivilent of radioshack in the UK is Maplins

And everything is more expensive here :P lol
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: MAG-123 on December 30, 2008, 11:34:27 AM
That's awsome.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Techni on September 10, 2009, 01:42:17 PM
Holy crap. Any progress on this?

I'd love a device where you just plug a controller into the USB port, plug it into PSPs USB port, and it works with remotejoy
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Barnsey on September 10, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
way to bumb an old topic...  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Techni on September 10, 2009, 02:09:31 PM
Quit your complaining.

What do you suggest, I make a new topic and hope he sees it?

What I wanted was relevant to THIS topic. It had to be bumped.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: alentris on September 10, 2009, 06:02:04 PM
Quit your complaining.

What do you suggest, I make a new topic and hope he sees it?

What I wanted was relevant to THIS topic. It had to be bumped.
no, you're wrong. It's against the rules to bump an old topic. gr8npwrfl isn't active anymore. If you really want his attention, pm him.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Xaveb on September 19, 2009, 07:46:54 PM
Hey would someone make me one of these if so how much $$$$$?????
my psp is fat 1001 aka the best.
Title: Re: USB HOST/MASS STORAGE PROJECT STATUS
Post by: Blazinkaos on September 19, 2009, 10:36:39 PM
I would suggest locking this seems no one gets the idea. XD
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