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Console Modding------ ( Here you can talk about your favorite Consoles ) => Nintendo DS => DS Lite => Topic started by: PspKicks316 on July 30, 2008, 08:27:11 PM
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Coming soon.
I'm getting a DSL in soon, thanks to treemty!
Modding starts soon guys.
A DSL like you've never seen before. (That is, if I can actually pull this off. It's a pretty ambitious project.)
2 people have clues. 1 Knows all. I ask these people (you know who you are) to please not tell anyone about this. Thanks guys.
The best modded DSL you'll ever see? Yeah. Definitely.
Photoshop mockup teaser in a few days...
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That sounds like an ambitious project, but the results will pwn :w00t:
Good luck, can't wait to see how it turns out, hope you find some cases too
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Thanks Tw1nky! It may not start for a while. My computer and my special mod come first. (The mod for my friend will end up being a plug and play ps2 mod, so I can make it and then wait till Christmas or her bday to do it, so it doesn't take long)
I'm hoping to be able to start this before Christmas. I've got some ideas on getting money for it, but it all depends on my mom letting me get a paypal account.
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do just making the screan and case is a huge challenge, this is ALOT of work and would take alot of skill and time, this would be hard for even some of the most advenced modders like Cyber, or other really skilled modders
if you got this done, you would be the highlights of the ds modding, you would be so talked about
But this is 12/10 hard
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I was going to sell this, but (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=21292.0)
if you want anything specific from what I've posted there just shoot me a PM. Seems like a worthy project to me =) I don't mind giving u parts.
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I know how I'm doing the mobo, it doesn't need to much redesign. And for the case I was thinking of, like you said, hacking up SOME parts. I can cut and use most of a case, it's just some parts I'll need to fill in and stuff. Once I get a basic hacked up version done, I plan on using some sort of very strong glue or something (epoxy probably?) to fill in the little cracks and stuff, and then sand it down smooth and paint it over. Then I want to get some sort of clear coat (other than laquer) so that it's nice and smooth.
Thanks for all the feedback guys! Aquastr, not just yet. I thank you for the offer though =] Let me just get some more ideas down and finalize ideas and try to get some parts and stuff before I take donationg. I don't want to end up keeping you guys waiting forever till I can start this.
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All I need to do is cut the sides where the buttons are off. Then I plan on using ribbon cables (from old stuff or something) to reconnect them through a hinge like the DSL top screen (Which I have a secret idea for :D ). I need to go mow my grandparents lawn (ugh. But hey, it's money!) so I'll photoshop up a pic of what I'm talking about when I get back.
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I guess I'll be taking months and proving you wrong then. Rocky said it's completely possible, just really hard because the traces are small and it's hundreds of traces. No offense, but I'm believing Rocky over you any day, he's like a DS GOD.
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Alien You are a sceptic, Anythigns possible.
Kicks if you dont want to haev an extremely sloppy looking project then i suggest an airformed case if you do it right then you can have a look-like-new console and it will be well worth it in the end, as for the mobo issues etc idk I jsut care abotu the way things look :3
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Lol thanks Chase. I'm just gonna disregard your statement Alien. Anything is possible, especially here at AcidMods. Rocky said that he tested it and it would be hard but possible.
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi175.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw138%2Fpspkicks316%2FDSredesign.jpg&hash=c7dcfce0f72b192d58576fe2b62bf1537efe5d2d)
You might not be able to read what I wrote on there, so HERE (http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/pspkicks316/DSredesign.jpg) is the bigger version.
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I don't ask for help with problems like that, if it's my own stuff I try to fix it on my own and then ask for help. I don't care if I break a mobo or 2 for this.
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for making the case dude, use bondo, best thing ever after sanded
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Wow PspKicks, I hope it all goes well. It should be excellent when you finish :#1:
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Thanks guys. And thanks Mario, I'll look into bondo
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so, when will this start btw?
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When I get a few cases and a few DSLs XD. Uhm. Not sure exactly. I want to keep saving up my money for my computer and my special mod for my friend, but if all goes well and I get a paypal account and get some money in there, I can rack up some decent money using that and get some parts and DSLs without tapping into my reserve money. I plan on buying/fixing/selling RRoD 360s on Ebay.
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yes this is possible but... you are using the wrong motherboard... if you look closely in the design the button match a original ds(phat) also if you do make this you will need to cut the motherboard carefully without cutting anything important in the front and back. Then use the wires and connect the button part of the motherboard to the main part. also something about the design i need to add if you really do this, it would look kind of ugly 1. in order for it to slide you will have to put a grid on the side and a to lock it in place. 2. since the mother board is using a ds phat, the screen would not be as great as the ds lite's so you would need to upgrade the screen(lol im thinking HD) 3.since its a phat motherboard the ds is going to be thick, its going to be weird. anyways good luck with your project i will be supporting you, i will keep checking this and give you more info if i catch something
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That's a Lite motherboard dude... The phat looks like this:
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faycu09.webshots.com%2Fimage%2F30408%2F2002814748959479374_rs.jpg&hash=83e3d10d0b41b62884b0178af983b75e24188cd6)
The one I edited up there WAS a DSL mobo, straight from Rockys website too..
(The buttons on the DS Phat are in fact, buttons. Not traces.
And yeah I know I need to be careful with it. It's all about location on this xD. I decided not to go with the sliding sides.
If all goes well on this, I've got a few really easy redesigns I want to make. Maybe I could go into a business and end up at nintendo! XD Yeah, I wish >_>;
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Doesn't the second design seem a little weird. If you lay your DS down when it's in "portable" position, it lays on the buttons.
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That's a Lite motherboard dude... The phat looks like this:
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faycu09.webshots.com%2Fimage%2F30408%2F2002814748959479374_rs.jpg&hash=83e3d10d0b41b62884b0178af983b75e24188cd6)
The one I edited up there WAS a DSL mobo, straight from Rockys website too..
(The buttons on the DS Phat are in fact, buttons. Not traces.
And yeah I know I need to be careful with it. It's all about location on this xD. I decided not to go with the sliding sides.
If all goes well on this, I've got a few really easy redesigns I want to make. Maybe I could go into a business and end up at nintendo! XD Yeah, I wish >_>;
lol if you slide it out and when you grab the buttons to play the bottom of it would feel emty... and you would need to fill it in... but if you fill it in im not sure how that is going to fit on tip of the screen and its going be really thick
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Doesn't the second design seem a little weird. If you lay your DS down when it's in "portable" position, it lays on the buttons.
You didn't read what I said I guess. I'm just using the folding concept, not that actual thing.
haha, i'm sure there are lots of job openings for people that can cut their motherboards into thirds and then glue cases together! -
It was a joke...
Well, when you complete this project it will be perfect for your CV right?
Are you doing this with a ds or a ds lite motherboard?
Uhm, what? And DSL mobo, like I said. Liekt he topic...DSL REDESIGN. lol.
and btw on the ds lite, the buttons are buttons, they aren't just traces!, there is a layer underneath the gold tabs that helps them to function..and when used in conjunction with the conductive rubber it causes a digital button press
Uhm,ask Rocky,but I'm 99.99999% sure it's the just the gold tabs. When the conductive rubber connes them, it sends the button signal through.I could be wrong thuogh.lol if you slide it out and when you grab the buttons to play the bottom of it would feel emty... and you would need to fill it in... but if you fill it in im not sure how that is going to fit on tip of the screen and its going be really thick
My idea isn't going to be that thick, and I said I'm not using the sliding idea on this redesign. The sides are going to fold. You'll all see once I'm able to start this. =P
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Oh God no. I wouldn't be using anything thick, I'd be completely taking half of the motherboard out! xD I planned on using a razorblade and carefully making a cut down, and jsut going over that until I have it cut in half. It's soemthing really thin, so I don't lose any of the motherboard.
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Uhm, what? And DSL mobo, like I said. Liekt he topic...DSL REDESIGN. lol.
A CV is a Curriculum Vitae a.k.a. a Resume. Allen_X was saying if u pull this off then you could put it on a resume, you know, for like a job.
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Ohhhhhhhh. Fancy terms >_>;;
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Oh God no. I wouldn't be using anything thick, I'd be completely taking half of the motherboard out! xD I planned on using a razorblade and carefully making a cut down, and jsut going over that until I have it cut in half. It's soemthing really thin, so I don't lose any of the motherboard.
I would use i flat tip on a ingraver
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I plan on having a few mobos to test on before doing this, so I'll see what works best
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i am just starting with this whole modding stuff but jeez good luck and please keep us updated. this looks like fantastic project. (and to think i am worried about putting a few LEDs in my DSL)
you deserve a high five :hifive: and 2 thumbs up :tup:
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Thanks man, I'll be updating this thread once I start work on this!
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It was a joke...I said that...
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this is going to be one expensive ass project! :yess: :yess: also... you should make the screens a glass feel like laptop screens :tup: :tup:
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I'll think about it. And yeah...I'm thinking in the end I would've spent like $300ish but the actual project like like $250. Hahah. It's going to be fun doing this though, I just wish I could start now.
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haha.. if this project works out you gotta build some and sell it to us!! and then wait a year after all acid mod member have each have one then you sell it to nintendo and make it big
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If you're looking for cheap shells, DealExtreme has them for about 15 dollars each, give or take a few bucks. I just got this one recently.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10858
They have the solid colors for a bit cheaper. And if you desire to have less thickness, I think you should find a way to get rid of the GBA slot device if it's possible.
Well good luck with the project, I'm all for it. I doubt it will work, because desire alone doesn't do it (unless you are the Zohan), you need skill aswell. If you don't find every single lead and match them with whatever each one happens to connect to, you will seriously have screwed yourself out of a good ds lite you could've just modded, or maybe made bigger or something. =P
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If you can pull this off you would by far have the most complex and hardest mod on this entire website. Have you seen what the ds motherboard looks like cut? I don't think you know how much work this is. Also I dont know enough about general electronics but the distance of the wire might actually make a difference but I dont think an extra inch or two will affect it too much but I have no idea. If you need broken shells I have plenty for you. You can have as many as you like. But for the final design if you ever get that far. since you are putting so much work into it I would go with CNC cut case possibly. It would cost quite a bit more I think it would be worth it. You wouldn't want to spend that much time and effort on it and have it look stupid. Good luck and if you need anything just ask.
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well, I doubt this can be pulled off (sorry kicks lol) This kind of mod is really hard, Ben Heck cuts mobos, but Its takes him awhile to do, and its on simpler systems
I cut a mobo into 2 and resoldered them, But ti took like 30 mins to get 3 traces back, and to stay
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lol Kicks now that i seen this post i no y u said if u get all your parts your would beat me but no u still wont. :taunt:
and waht kind of hinges u using?
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I was probably going to try and use or modify the old hinges. And thanks for the support guys :taunt:
If I can't get it working at first, try, try again. Honestly, I don't care how LONG it takes me to get this done, I just want to get it done in the end. =]
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Sounds very ambitious. I'll enjoy seeing how this turns out.
Oh, and I'd recommend a CycloDS Evolution instead of an R4. Not that it matters. xP
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Lol, thanks bud. I don't think I need to worry about the card just yet xD
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rocky is right, the length of some of the traces is something you cannot change. like ram for example.
i wish you all the best of luck on this, but honestly i see my insane single screen DS idea working before this does =/
if you need any help on this feel free to PM me, i dont mind doing a little research =]
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I can see how hard this is gonna be but alien x need to quit being so negative, like he always is. If you need some help on parts I might be able to get you some, or quite possibly a couple full dslites.
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I can see how hard this is gonna be but alien x need to quit being so negative, like he always is. If you need some help on parts I might be able to get you some, or quite possibly a couple full dslites.
He's being realistic. Sorry if being negative and saying it like it is overlap sometimes.
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well, I doubt this can be pulled off (sorry kicks lol) This kind of mod is really hard, Ben Heck cuts mobos, but Its takes him awhile to do, and its on simpler systems
Benheck admits to not being the greatest solderer of all times. It should be possible to do, but only if you can solder like a God.
Can't wait to see this mod finished. Nice change from all the PSP mods. :clap:
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Thanks for the feedback guys, and if anyone wants to donate parts, PM me. BUT, I won't be able to start for a while, so don't be toooo anxious to see me start. Lol.
Worst case scenario? I can't extend traces or get it working or something and it's impossible. IF that's the case, I've got a backup idea that is 100% possible. So, either way you're seeing an awesome mod come out of this. :)
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Alright this might help a little I have taken a motherboard and cut its layers apart. The DS lite has 4 layers to its motherboard. As you can see in this picture it has 2 inside layers and one on the outside on each side totaling 4.
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fn-mod.com%2Fmods%2FDSL%2Fimgother%2F100_5882.jpg&hash=70f6f973a53ccb432e56484f0a71522c2750b0c8)
The part I cut away you can see the traces running up the motherboard and across. On the top it has one solid ground that I cut away and the bottom is the same. It would help if their was an easier way to take apart the board than cut it.
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Oh...good to know before I waste my time. THIS ISN'T OVER GUYS! I'm still making a redesign-ish mod, but it doesn't involve cutting the mobo :taunt: Thank you rocky
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so what's your plan b? detachable sliding screen?
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You'll see. All I need is a working DSL and I can start work on it, I don't need a billion things for this one ^_^
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so what's your plan b? detachable sliding screen?
hehe, actually, thats my project =]
70% done
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hehe, actually, thats my project =]
70% done
Good luck on that. I had wanted to try my hand at that some time too.
Oh, and thanks for posting that top screen thing, it may come in handy.
Anyone know what causes the DSL to go to sleep when the lid is closed? Is it a switch or what?
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Anyone know what causes the DSL to go to sleep when the lid is closed? Is it a switch or what?
Its a magnetic switch. The speakers set it off. In the middle of the abxy buttons is where you will find it
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Cool, thanks.
Edit: Just opened up my Gold Zelda PH DSL to take a look at that switch. How's it work? It puts it in sleep mode when a magnet(speaker) is held over it? Is that it?
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Maybe. I know it's not the right side hinge that does that, since mine is broken there atm... :drunk:
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yes kicks, thats exactly it
it works like a normal switch but with a magnet
so if you replace it with a real switch youd be able to control sleep mode
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Cool, thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
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How about reading, Alien. I said I'm still doing something big. I don't know whether you could consider it a redesign, but I'm still doing some big never before seen mods to it.
I'm just not cutting the mobo.
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Nice!, good luck on your project.
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Good idea.
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great project.
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great project.
I didn't do anything yet.
$10 says you didn't even read through it and you're getting your post count up. I'm seeing a lot of that.
If anyone cares, I'm still trying to find me a working DSL or broken but fixable or something to work on. Money and time are getting tighter though with school coming up...
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I didn't do anything yet.
$10 says you didn't even read through it and you're getting your post count up. I'm seeing a lot of that.
If anyone cares, I'm still trying to find me a working DSL or broken but fixable or something to work on. Money and time are getting tighter though with school coming up...
i know you didn't im just saying its going do be a good project to work on
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Money's tight, last thing I'm buying (most likely) is an iVue panel, cuz I need to save for xmas gifts for people (and friends).
Talking to my friend tomorrow, gonna see if she can snag me a DSL to work on. If she does, sweet I'll start working on this.
If not, ugh back to square 1 looking for one.
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if you can get something decent to trade me I'll trade my ds lite parts. but it has to be worth the same amount of $. Something like an archos 605 wifi or putting dual nubs in my slim for free :winker:
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Oh, yeah, cuz I have that, or the ability to dual nub a slim. o_o
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well what do you have that you want to trade that's worth about 1 1/2 ds lites?
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No clue. I don't have much to trade
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Good luck finding another DS. I'm looking forward to the outcome of this project.
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hey man, check ebay people are selling broken DSL's couls prob find some.
going be a nice ass project when its done :drunk:
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I can't do ebay. No paypal
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Bump for awesomeness.
~1st post
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dang I can't tell.
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I'll start working on this once I get the DSL in and then more when I get the other parts in.
If anyone here has a GBA SP SCREEN TO DONATE, it will be GREATLY appreciated, as GameStop lets you trade in a GBA SP or DS phat and get a new DSL for $79.99.
I'm selling some stuff form my auction thread too, and I guess sell stuff to treemty if he backs out, instead. Then I should have the money to get a new DSL instead.
I'll keep you guys posted and make a PS mockup soon (Helps if someone could find me a top-down picture of a DSL closed sitting on a flat surface)
The more I think about this, the more unrealistic it seems to be. Well, 1 part of it. =P
Still gonna do it. Still gonna finish it.
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Interesting... It all sounds awesome. You're starting to remind me of Brian Heck or whatever his name is.