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Title: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ghost In Black on August 10, 2008, 09:20:28 AM
Did I do this right?
Edit: Good. That was basically my first time soldering. My LEDs will be here in a few days so I'll put up pics then.
Edit2: Look at bottom of post for the end product
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Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ch4rL13 on August 10, 2008, 10:53:17 AM
if those are the contacts around the xbox X on the controller for the leds then yes
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Jumbo on August 10, 2008, 01:07:54 PM
Yup they look perfect  :hifive:

Just get some new leds on there and show us :)
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: wilson08 on August 10, 2008, 01:41:11 PM
Nice ... Give me the tutorial ! Please - I Tried to Do this before, but i :censored:ing Ripped the tiny Buggers of completely LOL :D
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: KyleP on August 10, 2008, 03:15:32 PM
wilson theres a tutorial sticked its at the top of this forum and if your just doing the leds you have to removed the old one and put a new one by melting those 2 points in that picture up there
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: illusionistpro on August 10, 2008, 09:33:49 PM
Dont quote me on this but i bet you can press the led against the contacts and itll still light up.  So for example, if you turn the controller on, assuming itll still power on, you an press a led against the upper left set of contacts for player 1, upper right player 2 etc.  Then you'll know nothing is damaged and its ready for a new led.  Post results when youre dont, id liek to see.  its something id look into.  I used to do this with cell phone leds back when switching those were cool.  Remember the 90s kids :)
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 10, 2008, 09:41:06 PM
Even if there were no leds, the controller would still work. Yes you can just press it up against it, assuming the contacts are nice and flat. Oh, and point of advice, the little white dot that's by either of the 2 led contacts is the + side.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ghost In Black on August 11, 2008, 08:05:05 AM
Even if there were no leds, the controller would still work. Yes you can just press it up against it, assuming the contacts are nice and flat. Oh, and point of advice, the little white dot that's by either of the 2 led contacts is the + side.
Ok thanks, I was wondering about that.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: RDC on August 11, 2008, 01:03:40 PM
Oh, and point of advice, the little white dot that's by either of the 2 led contacts is the + side.
The dot indicates where the Cathode goes, that's the Negative side of the LED.

All controller versoins shown HERE (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=512284).

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Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 11, 2008, 02:53:23 PM
Meh. All I noticed was it was where the arrow or line is on my leds. I never remember which is which. *shrugs*
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 12, 2008, 01:03:34 AM
Heh does it really matter witch way the leds are soldered on the controller.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: KyleP on August 12, 2008, 07:35:08 AM
thats good so u can put it any way without having to worry
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 12, 2008, 07:38:00 AM
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thats good so u can put it any way without having to worry
Should be able to cuz i put it wat ever way i have it ready.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 12, 2008, 07:45:04 AM
Heh does it really matter witch way the leds are soldered on the controller.
thats good so u can put it any way without having to worry
Should be able to cuz i put it wat ever way i have it ready.
Uhm, YES it matters. If it's the wrong way, the leds won't light up. Have you ever used leds before?
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: KyleP on August 12, 2008, 08:02:23 AM
oh i was going off that other guys quote but thanks hey pspkicks u need to play with me on cod4 sir
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: KyleP on August 12, 2008, 08:22:38 AM
Yeah just to add some more to PSP Kicks' post

It would matter if you put the leds on the wrong way round..

Since these controllers run on DC voltage, the placement of the polarity of componants is very important, and would be a main problem in why a circuit doesn't work for one reason or another.

IF these controllers ran on AC (Which they wouldn't for many reasons, one being because it isn't as safe) then polarity placement  wouldn't be much of a problem..

but anyway back to why..

Led's - Light emitting DIODES , will only allow current to pass one way through them, they will not light up if they are the wrong way round, this is due to the nature of a diode - it will allow current to pass in one direction, and it will BLOCK the current in the other direction, which is bad news for a wrong-way-round led..

hope this helps


english translation by kyle

if you dont put right way no workky
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 12, 2008, 10:15:10 AM

english translation by kyle

if you dont put right way no workky
STOP SPAMMING. His post was as English as English can GET! If you wanna post an "English translation", how about speaking English YOURSELF.
Spam Post...

if you don't understand why something doesn't work, and you have no intention of doing so, then there is no point in doing it - and you shouldn't be anywhere near this site
Exactly.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 12, 2008, 10:21:33 AM
haha

i think this is the start of a new beginning

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that is a nice desolder job at the top ! - exactly how it should look
xD yeah.


I changed mine to red the other day, you did a perfect job. Nice and smooth. What color are you putting on?
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ghost In Black on August 12, 2008, 10:47:34 AM
I'm not sure what color yet. But I'm going to paint the case (maybe red or blue). I ordered some white and red LEDs for it. Anyways, What I'm going to try is putting the no chip rapid fire mod and the custom colors together. I just have to wait until the mod comes out for the new wireless boards.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 12, 2008, 12:28:30 PM
Hmm idk i just solder the leds on and they work. So unless im lucky all the time..
How do you tell wat side is positive on the led so i kno and not make this mistake.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 17, 2008, 06:54:32 AM
hmm im going to be doing this mod once my parts arrive, if you do it quick enough can you use the solder that was already there from the stock leds to hold the new leds on? i dont have a desoldering bulb is there anything i could use besides those?
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 17, 2008, 05:03:48 PM
Um yea i think there may be enough. If you have a nice thin tip it should work..and use a soldering gun.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ghost In Black on August 17, 2008, 08:31:42 PM
Yeah I'm done now, no mess ups! Anyways, that was my first time soldering or desoldering anything. Yes you can use the solder already there, but you might need some extra. (I did). It's not that hard if you take your time and do a quality job. :tup:
I hope to add more later. Maybe something like lighting up A,Y,X,B buttons.
Finished-
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Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 17, 2008, 09:24:46 PM
Good job! :tup:
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 18, 2008, 04:56:11 AM
great job! i like the red triggers bumpers and start and back buttons! did you spray them?
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ghost In Black on August 18, 2008, 10:47:26 AM
Yeah I was worried that it wouldn't turn out but it did. I used dupli-color for vinyl. Now when I get another controller I'm gonna prime and sand it and do all the extra stuff.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 18, 2008, 12:09:10 PM
yeah man go for it! what color are you gona do next?
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ghost In Black on August 18, 2008, 12:20:11 PM
I want to do a blue or red shiny case with white on the little parts.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 18, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
nice that would look great. i wana do an olive drab one with black accents
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 18, 2008, 04:51:35 PM
Nice Ghost In Black like the controller.
When you did it did you just solder them on or did u kno wat is positive and the negative end of the LED cuz i dnt i been told i believe on this forum u have to have it right from wat i heard...
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Ghost In Black on August 18, 2008, 06:00:41 PM
Nice Ghost In Black like the controller.
When you did it did you just solder them on or did u kno wat is positive and the negative end of the LED cuz i dnt i been told i believe on this forum u have to have it right from wat i heard...
Yes it matters very much which way you put them. I looked at a chart (somewhere on these forums.)
I think you just got really lucky.  :dntknw:
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 18, 2008, 06:10:34 PM
just turn the controller on and press the leds on the board to see which way there supposed to go on
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 18, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
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just turn the controller on and press the leds on the board to see which way there supposed to go on

Ehhh idk i hate holding them cuz there small u kno but wat the heck ill see...
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 18, 2008, 07:39:43 PM
Ehhh idk i hate holding them cuz there small u kno but wat the heck ill see...
0603s? I find them to be quite big sometimes.
._.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 18, 2008, 08:14:09 PM
idk i have a hard time gripping them its just me..
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: bill16504 on August 18, 2008, 08:57:23 PM
There should be a mark on the back of the 0603. The side it's closest to is the +.

I just finished up an rf board and controller for a friend today. His controller is the bottom left one.

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I ordered ultraviolet 0603s today. I'm going to do my Elite and controller. I'm a blue guy, but my wife likes purple, so I figured I do it for her.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 19, 2008, 05:46:10 AM
nice devotion! im making my cheepy controller have a blue rol and my white controller have red. once i finish everything ill probly start a new topic and post pics
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 19, 2008, 09:22:57 AM
Oh ok so like the ones i have liek they have green lines to one side so that must be it...
Nice bill16504 like the LED work u got there...
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 19, 2008, 12:06:54 PM
yeah man it looks great! how hard is it to change the ring of light on the 360?
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 19, 2008, 12:09:26 PM
yeah man it looks great! how hard is it to change the ring of light on the 360?
It's the SAME thing as everything else. Desolder the leds and solder new ones on.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 19, 2008, 12:13:45 PM
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It's the SAME thing as everything else. Desolder the leds and solder new ones on.
^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Winterz117 on August 19, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
well i know that, i meant like getting into your xbox safely and stuff like that. ive never opened my 360's case
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: PspKicks316 on August 19, 2008, 12:15:23 PM
It's not hard. You just need the right tools.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 19, 2008, 12:16:43 PM
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well i know that, i meant like getting into your xbox safely and stuff like that. ive never opened my 360's case
its really not that hard like look at some you tube videos on how to do it and if u need some help im cuz i done couple times..
But when u get to the back on snapping of the case be very careful use a flat tip and press down...
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: bill16504 on August 19, 2008, 12:18:03 PM
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yeah man it looks great! how hard is it to change the ring of light on the 360?

It's nice if you want your rf board red, because then you don't have to replace the right angle smds, just the power button. For the outer ring, I just reversed the colors so the red shows the controllers and the green shows errors.

But even if you do want something other than red, it's not bad. It's not as easy as the controller, but with patience a first timer can handle it.

For removing smds, I don't try to desolder them with a wick. I just flood it with solder and it floats off.


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It's not hard. You just need the right tools

A small precision flat head and a hair dryer.
Title: Re: Led desoldering job
Post by: Blazinkaos on August 19, 2008, 12:23:10 PM
Cool you should make a tut on this if no one else has done it on here.
Also for lighting up of the buttons how did you do that like what points did you use and wat resistors you kno...
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