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Console Modding------ ( Here you can talk about your favorite Consoles ) => PSP's => PSP Phat (1000) => Topic started by: thearkman2009 on February 22, 2009, 11:31:23 PM
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FINISHED!
Ok, I know you guys have been looking around for reasonable ways to cool the hot parts of the PSP mobo. Well, I have been working on this project for quite some time, and finally got the chance to finish it!
I am using is the fan assembly from a Sony Vaio laptop (Sony VAIO PCG-FXA35/D CPU Fan Assembly)
The air flow comes from behind the PSP, through a precut and filtered hole in the back of the UMD door, into the fan case, pushed through the WIFI board area, and out of a number of small, drilled holes on the LEFT side of the PSP. I might change the output holes, depending on how much the air flow is restricted. If there is little air flow, then this would all be pointless, so a fairly straight line of air flow over the parts of the board that need cooled would be the best option.
If you are one of those people that just HAS to have something like this done, and dont want to spend about 5 weeks doing it like I did, then PM me and I might be able to do it for you (for a price of course).
Let me know what you think. If you would like to give me some constructive criticism, that would be great. DONT FORGET TO VOTE!
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi612.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt210%2Fthearkman2009%2Fth_CoolingModFinal.jpg&hash=486a1038c5c726e29713eb6d6501e2a67d8b1958) (http://s612.photobucket.com/albums/tt210/thearkman2009/?action=view¤t=CoolingModFinal.flv)
Its finished! One of my videos is posted above. Check it out!
PLEASE VOTE!
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Well, I think it would be pretty cool if you had LEDs behind the fan. :w00t:
That would look sweet!
BTW, I really recommend the Fujifilm Finepix S5700. It's great value, looks like an SLR, takes really good super-macro shots and it's has amazing settings so that you can take professional level photos :drunk:
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Well if your going to be taking professional photos, why not go for a professional camera? I have a nikon d60. It is a DSLR with 10.2 megapixels and the closeups are supurb due to the ability to manually focus it. The kit with the 18-55mm lens is like $750 though so it's a real investment.
Also, I agree LEDs in the fan would look pretty cool.
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Well if your going to be taking professional photos, why not go for a professional camera? I have a nikon d60. It is a DSLR with 10.2 megapixels and the closeups are supurb due to the ability to manually focus it. The kit with the 18-55mm lens is like $750 though so it's a real investment.
Also, I agree LEDs in the fan would look pretty cool.
Well, he's only looking for a camera that can take closeups. Nothing professional needed :).
I just said because the Fujifilm Finepix is a great camera, and you can get it for about $100.
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Ah I understand. Plus you gotta go for what you need and can afford. But remember: buy right or buy twice. :)
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Thanks for the input on the cameras guys. I will look those up tomorrow. I am also getting my dremel set tomorrow so I can pick up work again. I will take photos with what I have for now, and update them when I get a better camera. As for the LEDs behind the fan, sure, its doable. I can take the top part of the fan case off, hot melt some LEDs into the case, and put if back together. Might as well make it look sweet!
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Well, I never had a situation where I had to cool down my PSP, are you going to remove the spot where the UMD discs go?
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When I had my PSP fat The Wifi board always got hot and Froze my games(mainly SocomFTB/2) Even if people say bad things Just do it. it would be cool to show off. Also think of the battery life and if the Juice from the PSP battery can power that fan.
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My stepsons PSP gets really hot playing the same game Socom FTB2. Mine gets hot just playing games, music, internet, and video (usually one right after another). The fan is a 2000 mAh (max load), but it does not need to run at anywhere NEAR that speed, so the drain on the battery would be no more than 300 or 400 mAh. I will be including a switch to allow the user to turn it on and off at will, (who needs it when all you do is listen to music with your CPU clocked to 133 MHz, and your LCD off?)
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I've had problems with a hot wifi board on my phat. Pissed me off because it'll freeze and then restart it self. I lose whatever I was doing.
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Good news! I just got my new Dremel set and have been working on this mod now for the past 3 hours. Got pretty far. I am now up to making things fit snuggly. Its nothing hard to do, and I want to make things fit easily, so if anyone else wants to do this, they can. If someone does not want to use the same fan I did, just a little research and a different fan, and it should all be good to go, with little deviancy from my tutorial.
More pics to come, just need to clean some things up first.
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yeh try and cool the wifi board ;)
froze my games on my phat too ;)
the difficult part on it is, when you put a fan somewhere it needs to take fresh air.
and the problem is, when you hold your psp your left hand is on the wifi board.
so putting a fan there is a problem because you are blocking the fresh air from getting in
and you will need some sort of cover so you don't put your fingers in the fan :P
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Well the fan is gonna be in the umd door so putting your fingers into it or the fresh air shouldent be a problem. The left hand could block the exhaust holes though unless they are drilled high enough on the trim.
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I have figured out where the vent holes are going to be. I have already drilled them. There are 6 of them, and they are above the memory stick slot. I might have to add in more, but I am not sure yet. I am going to put a thin cloth over the inside of the holes to act as a dust filter and to prevent someone from putting stuff IN the PSP. There will also be a filter between the fan housing and the inside of the PSP, to prevent dust buildup (which would defeat the point of having the fan in the first place).
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Yep thats sort of my concept when I'm working on making a new project. As long as it works, I don't really care how "ghetto" it looks. I can always nice it up later once it's all finished and working.
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Ok, a video has been uploaded. Its not totally finished, but like I stated in the first post, I still have to get things cleaned up. I will make a new video demonstration when its all put together and final. But for now, this should give you a pretty good idea of how the final product will look and work.
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I put a fan in a psp a while ago, but never internal, looks good :hifive:
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Looks like the polls are showing that more people are interested in this mod. (at least, of those that DO vote). There have had to be a few minor changes to the UMD door, so that it holds the fan better. I am working on figureing out what model Vaio the fan came from, so when I do, I will be able to offer to mod the UMD door, attach the fan to it, and mod the back case, for anyone who is interested in having it done, but does not want to mess with trying to figure out how to fit it in themselves.
Also, for those that have tried the butter knife to remove the UMD door, there is a reason why its so risky. Some of you know why, but for those who dont... If you take the back off all the way, and look to the left on the bottom, on the inside, there is one screw that does not seem to hold anything in place. That screw actually holds one of the hinges for the UMD door in place. Just loosen it up (dont have to remove it), and the push in and up and that hinge will just slide out, no risk of breaking the door! Do the opposide when putting it back in. It took me a while to figure it out, but it can save you the headache of MAYBE breaking your UMD door while trying to remove it. :tup:
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great mod but...its not really needed cause the psp dosent have a temp problem
i left my psp on for a week and it was still cool
but nice mod :tup:
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I know some of you are pretty supportive of this. Look at the polls. Some dont think it needs done. Its all based on your individual needs. Personally, mine gets pretty hot. MINE has never froze before, but my stepsons has. I used mine a lot, and I am suprised it has not caught fire yet! This might also be good for when you leave it in your car or something on a hot day, and come back to use it, but its burning up! Just switch on the fan, and your good to go. The way I will have it wired, you will be able to turn it on and off without powering on the PSP itself. So if you are afraid of running it while hot, you can cool it down first, then turn it on when you think its cool enough.
the only wiring you would have to do would only require the hookup of two wires, + and -. I have other mods to do, but now would have a little less then half the UMD drive area left to put stuff. Anyone have some suggestions as to what all I could add to it?
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Nice mod bro i seen someone do this but you found a better fan for it. I know a better one that may give better flow then that trying looking into graphics cards for PCs. Some have nice fans that are small enough and do pretty well with air flow.
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Now that you mention it, thats probably true. I just dont want to have to buy the video card, just to use the fan. It is possible to get a replacement fan for them, ordered seperately?
Also, I had to make an extra cutout on the bottom of the fan to allow room for the extra tall switch thats on the back of the mobo. Its a lever-style switch, possibly for UMD insertion detection. Everything should run find without it being depressed. If I have to, I can just jump the connections. (I wont be using the UMD drive again anyway).
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Nice mod bro i seen someone do this but you found a better fan for it. I know a better one that may give better flow then that trying looking into graphics cards for PCs. Some have nice fans that are small enough and do pretty well with air flow.
yea Syn7h was the first person to do this mod here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7iCUqDKokU&feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7iCUqDKokU&feature=channel_page),
nice work though seems pretty decent, good mod.
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I don't mean to rain on your parade but psp's don't get that hot what would be the point of it I just see it as being useless.
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Like I said before, that would be a matter of opinion. Personally, I like my electronics to run cool, as cool as I can get them. Fundamental electric properties prove that electrical devices operate better, faster, and cleaner when chilled, as opposed to being hot. Hence the need for heatsinks. ANY electronic component can benefit from being cooler (unless that component is required to be hot for some reason).
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yea Syn7h was the first person to do this mod here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7iCUqDKokU&feature=channel_page,
Yup thats who it was thanks ghost.
I don't mean to rain on your parade but psp's don't get that hot what would be the point of it I just see it as being useless.
Actually they do depending on how long you stay one it for example on a PC what is one cause to PCs freezing. Answer is over heating i work on computer and over heating is an issue sometimes. Other people said that to the the guy that did this mod as well Syn7h. Other then that i think thearkman2009 did a nice job.
props on you.
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I am lacking a couple parts to finalize this, so when I get it done, I will take a final proof video, in better quality of course. I also just got myself a new Exilim 10.1 MP digital camera. Really nice, only $200. Takes pretty good close up shots, much better than before, so I will post some of the better photos when I get them taken.
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Sweet cant wait to see man.
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All right guys, I have been out of the scene for a couple weeks, because my job just got SLAMMED with work. I work for a private sod company, and I am the only employee at the moment (other than my boss). :#1: I have been working for him for 5 years now, and he just does not have the get-up-and-go he used to, so most of the work is up to me to do. I put in as much work as I can to get things done. :faint: But now that I have worked so much, there is not much to do, so until more work comes around, I will have my free time back! :tup: So now I have an update, and will post the final video and pictures in a few days.
I just finalized the wiring for the switch, and its pretty cool I think.
I used an old MS Duo (not Pro Duo), that had a "write lock" switch on the board. I cut it up, and, well, see for youself. Easier to show you a picture, than describe it. Look back at the beginning of this thread for the pics.
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Ight man nice job ill be keeping an eye on this thread for that video.
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Yeah, that board was small as hell, and I dont have a fine point soldering iron, and my hands are not as steady as they used to be, so it was pretty hard to get that stuff done. I am actually getty pretty good at surface mount soldering with a standard iron. Now all I have left to do is mount the fan, run the wires, and mount the switch, and its done. I could actually use 1 more UMD door (black, no damage, both hinges must work) for the final thing. Both of my doors, have one hinge thats broke. Would anyone like to make a donation?
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I remember when i had bad iron so much better to have fine one.
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what are those boards for????
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What boards?
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What boards?
He's talking about these ones:
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi612.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt210%2Fthearkman2009%2FStick06.jpg&hash=a45b9f12aff643c6561f994e273c5744516cfb0b)
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I happened to come across an old MS Duo, and it had a write protect switch on it. So I broke it open and removed all the surface mounted components from it, except the switch. Then I soldered wires to the scrated off traces on the other side so that the switch would work properly.
I dont pick out parts purpously, they just kinda "happen". Reason for this switch and mounting type was because the height of the switch, from board to top, was the same thickness as the UMD doors plastic. So I just out a box the size and shape of the switch, and let the board flat against the back (inside) of the UMD door. When mounted like this, the switch sits below the surface of the UMD door, by the the thickness of the board, so no accedential switching when I put it down or it slides across my seat or bed. This power switch reconstruction alone, took me almost 4 hours.
I am kind of a perfectionist, when it comes to this stuff. I do my best to make it the final product, the first time. Since this photo, I have flattened out the parts and extra solder left from the components with a Dremel. Everything still works, and fits VERY nicely behind the UMD door. And the great thing, is that there is still room for more mods, even with the fan and power switch in place!
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Hey things happen and its not bad idea. You going to post more pics of the finishing product.
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Yes. I only have ONE UMD door left, and its the one on my fully funcitonal unit. I was hoping I would not have to cut that one up, but guess I can. lol I will get it finished either tonight, or tomorrow, and take a short video, and some more pics of the final assembly.
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Awesome cant wait to see.
You dnt have money to buy and extra UMD.
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Yeah, I know thats pretty bad. I found one online for $3, and my PayPal account STILL has $0 in it and that $40 has STILL not been transferred! I will eventually. lol If I use the one UMD that I have on my functional unit, it HAS to be right the FIRST time, so it will last until I get a second backup UMD door.
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Ahh well just take ur time man so nothing wont happen to the UMD.
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Great news for those of you who are keeping up-to-date on this project of mine! I have gotten everything layed out, and I am about to do the final install this morning! Getting my soldering tools together right now, and should have it done in about 2 hours. I had a few more modifications to make it fit correctly, but it was well worth it. I also decided NOT to buy a new UMD door as of yet. The broken one I am using for testing, actually closes really tight, and does not come off when you open it. So until I order a new UMD door, this one will work just fine. Therefore the fan will not be mounted permenantly, as it will go into the new UMD door once I get it offline. Stand by, you will see some pretty cool stuff
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Oh great but dnt make the text soo big lol. You can big but not that big.
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yeah, being a little over-excited can get the best of me! :clap:
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Yea i get like that sometimes when doing something completely new.
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Nice mod bro i seen someone do this but you found a better fan for it. I know a better one that may give better flow then that trying looking into graphics cards for PCs. Some have nice fans that are small enough and do pretty well with air flow.
Thats true i seen some.
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Actually, if I could get a SMALLER fan, that would be awsome. Still needs to be low profile, but it does not need to be that big. I just worked in what I had on me. If the new fan were about HALF that size, I would much rather use that one.
Also, per another users suggestion, I am going to put BLUE LEDs in the fan caseing!
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When do you expect to have this completed? I can't wait to see what it looks like after all this time.
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I really don't see what the point of this mod is, sure it will be cool when it's done but pretty pointless if you ask me. The PSP has no heat issues.
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Yes heat is given off im on my psp a lot and it gets hot. To a point where i have to like move it around to to get the heat off.
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Wow.. how long do you play?
I've never felt my PSP even get a little warm even after playing for 4 hours..
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Not just playing i use to text ppl as well im on like 10 hrs a day.
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Text? don't you need wifi for that?
How do you text ppl on a PSP?
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yes you need wifi and my email to test them
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When do you expect to have this completed? I can't wait to see what it looks like after all this time.
Well, it is basically completed the way it is. I am STILL waiting on my new UMD door, so I can get a final (solidly mounted fan and switch) product together, but the look will most likly remain the same. Thoughts I DID have were, LEDs in the fan case, paint the fan case black to match the door (more stealthy), add a status light (on/off) somewhere on the front of the unit.
Wow.. how long do you play?
I've never felt my PSP even get a little warm even after playing for 4 hours..
For you, that could be true, and it depends on a number of things like room temperature, CPU speed, how you hold the unit, and whether or not your using WIFI a lot.
There are more reasons than this probably, but those are the most logical ones. For me, heat is mostly due to WIFI use, and the fact that I ALWAYS have my CPU set to 333 mHz.
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Yes wifi has a a lot to do with cuz when im play my game without wifi not much that is exposed but with it on and using it and does after while.
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Well, for those of you who are interested in it, I will probably be selling this mod out of my PSP. It will include the back case, UMD door/fan/switch, and wires. All you would need to do is wire to the 5 volt power source under the right speaker connector. For those interested, PM me with offers. No trades right now, unless its a trade WITH some money as well. (I need to make money where I can right now)
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take pics and set this in the auction section
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Yeah. I'd still like to see how it looks completed.
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there are probably several different ways to complete it, but as for me, it works just fine the way it is. I dont even have to do more work to it. I intentionally dont have it mounted permenantly, so that if the person that buys it, wants to mod it some more, or play around with it, they can still do it easily, but the mods DOES still work. I use it from time to time. If someone wants it and finds a way they like it and wants to mount it permenantly, go for it. I would love to see the new way of doing it.
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I will buy it for 5$+ shipping
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theres no pics of it completed so you dnt kno if its worth $5
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No offense, but there is no way I would sell this for $5. And YES, there are pictures...in video format, and in the video is also has my username, and explains exactly whats up with the mod.
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No Offense But Its A Usless Mod Dude It Won't Help At All Since Your Psp Wasent desinged to hold A cooling system
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Thats a matter of opinion. Just because YOU dont like it, does not mean other dont need something like this. A mod does not necessarily have to have a purpose, its just something fun to do, and COULD lead to bigger things.
And another point, you might want to concider getting a different username, you probably wont get a very good rep around here with a name like that. Nobody will take you seriously.
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maybe i dont wanna be taken sriously
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I already am thinking "wtf" everytime i see his name... Anyway love the idea. Sure it may not be the most useful thing ever, but neither are blue leds. Modding is just something to do for fun, and to challenge yourself with new things.
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Yes, I have talked to some of the admins, and they really are nice. But they will do what they have to do when it comes time. IP and MAC address bans are not too hard to do. Its all logged anyway.
Besides, I got all the parts for the mod for FREE, and the fan would never have been $50, more like $20, and I dont expect to get rich from it, just selling it to someone who can DO something with it, not CLAIM to, and :censored: around like you.
See, even bustinthejustin is being nice. He could probably tell you off, too.
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Yeah yeah yeah what ever ill be banned 2day unbanned tommarow good luck banning me :huh: :huh:
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either way, I am going to request that this thread be locked. I dont want to have this kind of stuff spread more, and become the focus of the thread.
From now on, anyone who wants to ask me questions, please PM me. I will start up another thread for my next mod.
Sad little boy, ConFicker needs to grow up. :sadno:
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locked on request