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Title: i think i might try this
Post by: knaggs1120 on April 25, 2009, 11:23:16 PM
well since my company has initiated a rolling layoff, i got some time to kill  :drunk:   :psp: .  searching around i found this

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.afterdawn.com%2Fstorage%2Fpictures%2Fpspsliderconcept.jpg&hash=e90fcf77f123fdc5292fc097bcf4dd047abf2533)

i cannot remember the original designer's name (i would love to give him props) and i want to try to build one.  what i was wondering is does anyone know where i can print off a full size pic of the guts of the phat i looked but am at a lost.  i just dont want to tear my psp apart while i'm working out the kinks i still wanna play ya know.  if anyone knows anything it would be a great help

thnx
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: rceckspurt13 on April 26, 2009, 12:59:08 AM
Dude if you can pull this off that is gonna be awsome.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: bustinthejustin on April 27, 2009, 01:12:28 PM
Just FYI, that was never made... Somebody just photoshopped it. But, it could be cool if you pull it off. Why are you looking for full sized pics of the guts? For dimensions?
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: EliteGamer83 on April 27, 2009, 02:05:56 PM
Ha well good luck.. but I doubt just one person could do it, there was a whole team working on the Pandora. Ha even if one person could do it I doubt anyone but Cyber, Chives, F00, Maybe Alien could pull it off, I mean it's a nice idea but I HIGHLY doubt you will be able to do it.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: bustinthejustin on April 27, 2009, 02:41:48 PM
Actually, it's not that hard. Maybe you're thinking of redesigning the entire PSP, which even the people you named, will not be able to do it. What I think this guy wants, is to make a normal psp slim/psp phat look like that.

If, you just wish to make a PSP look like that, you just need some general knowledge first. This includes:

Making the case
-Bondo?
-Vac Forming?

Rerouting nubs
- Just some basic soldering, except for the dual nub, which depending on if it's a slim or not, could be hard.

Extending the LCD screen (maybe)
- advanced soldering

There are a few more things you need to know, but that's mostly it. Sure, it's difficult, but not impossible.

Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: W-Gaming5 on April 27, 2009, 04:10:42 PM
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Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: MARIOPARTY53 on April 27, 2009, 04:16:15 PM
people at benheck coul,d pull this off in a 2-3 weeks
To make that case i recomend vacum forming this
And the hardest part is makin the lcd slide up and down

besdies the case and screen reloction i think anybody could do this with time. I believe in you. good luck!
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Jumbo on April 27, 2009, 05:02:05 PM
Ha well good luck.. but I doubt just one person could do it, there was a whole team working on the Pandora. Ha even if one person could do it I doubt anyone but Cyber, Chives, F00, Maybe Alien could pull it off, I mean it's a nice idea but I HIGHLY doubt you will be able to do it.
Just cause you know members of AM doesn't mean :censored:. If you actually didn't know, people at Ben Heck OWN us at things like this and FYI- Chives is a beast with code, but he doesn't even hard mod lol. F00 is a beast but he couldn't do this either. Again cyber is amazing but i don't think so. Alien, has some chance because his CNC is almost done lol. But really, AM modders are pretty nooby "Case Makers" compared to the Ben Heck crew. This is not do-able to look like that pic.

You CAN make a slider screen with buttons under but its going to be fat, and ugly. Way i see it, just leave it. There's nothing beneficial of this of trying so much to do.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: W-Gaming5 on April 27, 2009, 05:32:47 PM
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Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: EliteGamer83 on April 27, 2009, 06:43:21 PM
Yes thank you for your kind words Jumbo =|. I'm just saying this would be hard for anyone to do. Geez your always so critical. Your probably going to have that case custom formed, I'd suggest trying to make a 3d model and see if you can find someone with a vacuum press/contact a custom plastics company. Let's see a list of things you would have to do, re-design the home bar as I see the Start and Select buttons like something like the DS2 but more flat, also I don't see a HOME volume + volume - screen and music buttons on there. Also you would have to get a custom LCD/search hard for a rightsized LCD or else this won't look ANYTHING like what you see in the picture, the PSP is a widescreen so it's not very tall. It is also not wide enough if you want it to look like this. I see something that resembles a 3:2 image aspect ratio. It definitely is not a widescreen though. I think just because of the wrong sized pre-built PSP lcd and this project makes it not possible. Even if you got a right sized screen it would not run, the PSP is design for a 16:9 image ratio. You could be like the guys who made the pandora and make your own little sort of console, and have a home-brew version of the XMB and re-design the PSP mobo and re-flash it with your own FW. So I think just because of the screen it makes this project not possible. This is whjat it would look like with the stOCK lcd. I'm not saying this isn't possible but it would look a bit funny with sich a tiny LCD, I mean look at the PSP screen and the way this design is sketched, it's body is as long and wide and the screen is tall on this picture. So you would have to fit all that inside the size of behind the LCD.
 
Here's pretty much all that would need done: move the sound card, move the memory card slot, extend the LCD, dual numbs, re do the whole buttons system to accommodate the re-position of the triggers and maybe the buttons,

Yes it was a cheap quick photoshop nothing special, but this is what it would look like with the PSP screen.

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F35n1vuo.png&hash=d5932cddfc373960f9d69aef8ff9b6d459c34c89)
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: knaggs1120 on April 27, 2009, 07:13:14 PM
lol no i'm not making a new one just a case mod, i'll use an extended ribbon cable for the slider.  it wont be as slim but i have an idea for the vac molding that should work.  i was hoping to like print off like the boards and what not so i can start designing the mock ups and the negatives.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: knaggs1120 on April 27, 2009, 07:35:05 PM
o and btw its a start for the design not an exact duplicate that would be to expensive for my budget  :sadno:.  no actually i plan to reuse the screen and incorporate the umd drive for now.   its not as hard as you think just time consuming.  i work with body filler and plastic welding at work and did a good bit of it in school.  i dont have a console just a psp thats why i kinda want the print outs :beg:.  if not i'll try to get my hands on a copier. 
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: bustinthejustin on April 27, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
Elite, Jumbo is not being critical. Well yes, he is, but he's also stating facts, that are very much correct. And I agree with him too. You know :censored: about the modders at AM. Sure they're good at their own things, (coding, electrical stuff, designing, etc.) but this is DEFINITELY a BenHeck sort of project. Those guys are beast with cases O_o.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on April 27, 2009, 07:59:39 PM
If you actually didn't know, people at Ben Heck OWN us at things like this
yeah, at MGS, ben heck had some pretty awesome stuff... I was talking to him and some people from the forum there, and they showed off their custom case and portablized stuff. One guy had a portable atari that was pretty cool, but they were actually at a loss as to how people do LED mods, it's actually kind of ironic that they didn't understand the stuff I talked about... (ben did of course, but not everyone.) I was, though, at a loss of their portables... but at least I met ben heck :D
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: rceckspurt13 on April 27, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
Then y doesn't someone ask benheck do do it?
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: EliteGamer83 on April 27, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
Well good luck on this project hope you get it working.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: W-Gaming5 on April 27, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
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Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: EliteGamer83 on April 27, 2009, 08:41:35 PM
Yeah delete my post...

and BTW I do have people giving me - rep for nothing. I made nothing but "GOOD JOB" posts for 2 days and I still kept getting more -'s.

Well try to look on info on ben heck's blog I think you should try a custom new LCD for the PSP the default is kinda wimpy is your gonna try this.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: W-Gaming5 on April 27, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
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Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on April 28, 2009, 01:02:26 AM
Oh this thing again so fake and attempting to do this is very slim i dnt think its possible for one modder to do this.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: EliteGamer83 on April 28, 2009, 06:04:25 AM
Oh this thing again so fake and attempting to do this is very slim i dnt think its possible for one modder to do this.

Yeah This seems like something for R&D to work on, it's much more then just a custom case.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on April 28, 2009, 09:57:10 PM
idk if they can cuz look how thin that thing is ur gonna need 2 razors pretty much and idk how there going to attempt that.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on April 30, 2009, 02:14:40 PM
Then y doesn't someone ask benheck do do it?
ummm... I could ask him in a year at MGC, lol, he proboably doesn't respond to ANY e-mails.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: rceckspurt13 on April 30, 2009, 05:23:04 PM
Ha ok

Has anyone knoticed how uncomfortable that probably is to hold and play? It looks cool, but it's not really a good design for actual use.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: bustinthejustin on April 30, 2009, 08:02:14 PM
Elite, stfu. Nobody cares that your'e getting -s. In fact, I should give you another just for whining about it. "good job" 24/7 is spam. It's useless, and it ticks people off. You get -s for the LARGE  amount of stupidity you show on this forum. Grow up. You don't see me complaining about my -24. Kicks has over -100. But he doesn't care. Because it's just a stupid ranking system.


Now back on topic...

Yeah rceck I agree. If it had curves like the psp1000 it'd be better.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: W-Gaming5 on April 30, 2009, 08:44:05 PM
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Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: W-Gaming5 on April 30, 2009, 08:49:19 PM
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Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on May 01, 2009, 09:37:11 AM
I think the sidekick slide would almost a good casing for sliding part but the deminsion of it wont fit a screen that size.

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techdigest.tv%2Fmotorola_sidekick_slide_t-mobile.jpg&hash=c05f745836788304f238103c1a97f0b14f33ee53)
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: DiscEngine on May 01, 2009, 09:49:41 AM
That does look close but has curved edges.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: azhockey on May 01, 2009, 04:13:29 PM
I can't remember who did this but there was a triple A battery mod, why don't you do a hard wires version and just put a compartment on the back I mean you are building a new case so you might as well
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: rceckspurt13 on May 01, 2009, 08:05:08 PM
The aaa's don't last very long though. You'd be replacing them like every couple hours. You could also just take a psp battery out of it's case to make it smaller and then make it internal.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 01, 2009, 08:13:44 PM
Well, sony just announced that their design will be a slide up design with buttons under the screen, no info on the battery yet, the UMD will be disabled, and the system will use either 8 or 16 gb internal flash memory...

also elite, you're not an idiot, it's just that you post crap waaaaaay too much. You've been here probably 1/4 the time I have, and have 4x the posts I do. Say something about post quality? I would just like to see what you have to show for any time on here you've spent, other than trolling. Sure, I have nothing finished yet, but wait and see for a week or so till I get my GBC...
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: rceckspurt13 on May 01, 2009, 08:19:41 PM
wow that sounds pretty sick.

Without Umd's though, they will probably depend mostly on the playstation store for game downloads. Sucks for people like e who dont have a credit card or those that dont have a computer.

Of course they may also be coming out with some new type of removable media. Games on memory cards maybe?
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 01, 2009, 08:29:43 PM
wow that sounds pretty sick.

Without Umd's though, they will probably depend mostly on the playstation store for game downloads. Sucks for people like e who dont have a credit card or those that dont have a computer.

Of course they may also be coming out with some new type of removable media. Games on memory cards maybe?
well, they said that the greatest hits library will be on the download list, and most likely other well known games.
(maybe time for me to get wi-fi????)
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on May 02, 2009, 11:03:40 PM
I like the idea of smaller games having them on memo would be the best but the flaw is way easier to lose. But still is a awesome idea if they go that route. So sony said there having library where you can download games now.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 03, 2009, 11:51:01 AM
I like the idea of smaller games having them on memo would be the best but the flaw is way easier to lose. But still is a awesome idea if they go that route. So sony said there having library where you can download games now.
sorry for the huge off topic/thread jack, but still, your sig is EPICLY awesome
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Ben. on May 03, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
It is actually really nice.. haha

And i hope sony do make the buttons under the screen thingy.. thats cooool..
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on May 03, 2009, 11:18:03 PM
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sorry for the huge off topic/thread jack, but still, your sig is EPICLY awesome
Lol Thanks alentris and ben its my best one so far im shocked how well i did on it.

But if they are coming out with this new one i just hope its easier to hold and not looking like that pic cuz that just like holding a DS. Nothing against DS but i dnt like them that much.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: rceckspurt13 on May 03, 2009, 11:35:47 PM
Yeah I agree about the ds. Nothing against the console, but I don't like the shape. I remember when I used to play my brothers ds, it always felt like the corners were digging into my palms after a while.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on May 04, 2009, 11:08:01 AM
Yea if only if that made fell like lets say Ps2 controller almost i know that have a attachments like that for the PSP that something i would want but not to bulky just the right size for your hands to settle with.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 04, 2009, 03:52:23 PM
Yeah I agree about the ds. Nothing against the console, but I don't like the shape. I remember when I used to play my brothers ds, it always felt like the corners were digging into my palms after a while.
Yeah, I played metroid prime for only 2 hours on the original DS, and I had a bruised ring finger from the trigger...
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on May 04, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
Yea but theres no telling of the actual look of this. They havent got a design look of this have they alentris if you know at all.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 05, 2009, 05:21:32 PM
Yea but theres no telling of the actual look of this. They havent got a design look of this have they alentris if you know at all.
on 1up, they said it would be a slide screen with the buttons under the sliding part. 1 analog stick, and internal 8 or 16gb. That's all I know right now...
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on May 05, 2009, 06:23:22 PM
Only one analog they still havent tried making a second one yet.  :sadno:
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 05, 2009, 07:36:30 PM
Only one analog they still havent tried making a second one yet.  :sadno:
I know, right? Take a hint, Sony...
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: W-Gaming5 on May 05, 2009, 09:15:21 PM
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Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: Blazinkaos on May 06, 2009, 01:01:06 AM
Hmm i wouldnt guess if would look something like still the original look but a slide but will see this fall i guess. Still disappointed that there is no second analog you would think by now they would of had one. Hello its 2009 wheres the upgrades.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 06, 2009, 03:31:45 PM
umd is going away ( :tup: )
Ummmm... That's a HORRIBLE thing... why rejoice over that?
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: rceckspurt13 on May 06, 2009, 03:45:35 PM
A lot of people never really caught onto umds. I personally only own a couple and I barely use them. Personally i dont like them because they are pretty fragile. But as far as their purpose of holding a game or movie on them they do fine. They didn't sell as well as Sony thought they would.
Title: Re: i think i might try this
Post by: alentris on May 06, 2009, 04:01:28 PM
A lot of people never really caught onto umds. I personally only own a couple and I barely use them. Personally i dont like them because they are pretty fragile. But as far as their purpose of holding a game or movie on them they do fine. They didn't sell as well as Sony thought they would.
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