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Console Modding------ ( Here you can talk about your favorite Consoles ) => XBOX 360 => 360 Controllers / 360 Rapid Fire Controllers => Topic started by: KingMike_OS on August 11, 2009, 08:34:11 AM
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Launch Sep 1st .. preorder start on Aug 15th
Mode 1 - COD 4 Super Fast mode
Mode 2 – Dual Rapid Fire Halo 3 “LED 3 and LED 4 Both Will Light Up
Mode 3 – COD WAW Jun 11 Patch Fast No Cap
Mode 4 – COD WAW Slow “ Save Bullet , GOW 1 & 2 COD4
Mode 5 – Self Edit Mode
Easy to install 3 min from start to END .. Build in LEDS .. no more buring LED's
IntensaFIRE - Solder install (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQNMjCuDLzI#lq-lq2-hq)
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/11/intensafire-chip-adds-programmable-rapid-fire-modes-to-xbox-36/ (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/11/intensafire-chip-adds-programmable-rapid-fire-modes-to-xbox-36/)
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Damnit you beat me to it.
I'm thinking of getting this, just because it looks awesome.
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this looks like a very nice well thought out piece of hardware. will it work or be obsolete when the new MW2 comes out?
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yeah
the adjustable mode ensures some sort of RF capability we cant predict what will happen
if they try to implement another patch but currently it will function. :#1:
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Very good work mike. :D
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Just wanted to throw in that his product can be installed universally on either version of the wireless controller, using the same install. No identifying what board you have it is truely plug and play as install is same for both.
Also it has 2 options for installing. the simplest is "sleeper" install that uses sync to cycle through the modes. Alternatively there are pads where the user can install a push button that will turn the mod on/off with a quick press, and when mod is on, a press and hold on installed push button will cycle the modes. Both installs can still access the edit mode. For the most functionality I would recommend installing the button as cycling modes can be tedious in certain situations.
It is also simple enough that you can install it without a solder iron, by using conductive glue, you can take the iron out of the equation. I prefer to use an iron, but the glue opens the mod up for anyone to try with a little patience.
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http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/08-10-2009/0005074829&EDATE= (http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/08-10-2009/0005074829&EDATE=)
Discuss
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Its a new rapid fire on a flex cable thats easy to solder, and has kickass modes. there is already a thread under xbox 360> Rapid fire ontrollers
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i like the idea but sleeper mods are garbage and i hate them.
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^^^^^ HAHA, tell us how you really feel ^^^^^
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looking good mike thats a great looking product
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LOL I hate sleeper mods myself as well, I always end up disconecting the controller, but reading this there is a sleeper option and a tactile option, as with most rapid fire products.
one of the beggest pros about this is the ease of instalation.
who said this was mikes product? it looks like it is marketed by BGR mods.
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i like the idea but sleeper mods are garbage and i hate them.
like matt said and I pointed out there is an option for a button, and if you ask acidmods(as a reseller), that is what we will recommended for installation. BGR isnt emphasizing the button as it is more work and if it was required would eliminate a large population of people buying the product as that is the selling point, ease of install.
LOL I hate sleeper mods myself as well, I always end up disconecting the controller, but reading this there is a sleeper option and a tactile option, as with most rapid fire products.
the beauty of this is that the option is on all of the products and is up to the installer to decide which way to install. this is one product that has 2 install options on 2 different controller boards(user doesnt need to know what board as it is universal). Personally I use the sync to select a mode and the button to turn mod on and off, but it can also be done with just the sync, or just the button, as the program is rather robust... cuz it was designed with the masses in mind.
who said this was mikes product? it looks like it is marketed by BGR mods.
This is BGR mods product. They funded the project, and own the rights to the product. What I can tell you that the engineering was done locally :winker:
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Quite honestly, what is this other than a $7 chip you can get off Ebay? The FPC is nice, but not all that big of a deal. I have soldered to those before, and we are still talking about soldering to the edge of SMD parts. Ontop of that, after seeing the inside of quite a few controllers now the idea of glue really should not even be mentioned. I mean, what the hell is that white residue Microsoft leaves in there anyway? Its hard enough to solder to, let alone expect glue to keep good contact.
I know it seems like I am knocking this because I have a personal interest in the controller I designed, but I am only pointing out the obvious: Its another single-solution chip with a slightly easier install that costs $20+ more with no configuration or updatablility.
Now, if BGR and Viking get together, THAT would be the right way to go.
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Quite honestly, what is this other than a $7 chip you can get off Ebay? The FPC is nice, but not all that big of a deal. I have soldered to those before, and we are still talking about soldering to the edge of SMD parts. Ontop of that, after seeing the inside of quite a few controllers now the idea of glue really should not even be mentioned. I mean, what the hell is that white residue Microsoft leaves in there anyway? Its hard enough to solder to, let alone expect glue to keep good contact.
I know it seems like I am knocking this because I have a personal interest in the controller I designed, but I am only pointing out the obvious: Its another single-solution chip with a slightly easier install that costs $20+ more with no configuration or updatablility.
Now, if BGR and Viking get together, THAT would be the right way to go.
Your right hazer it isn't a BIG step in the Rapidfire scene, like the reprogrammable ones are. But this one seems to be all about easy installation. No wires to have break off, no having to solder to the crappy LED pads. It defiantly will be easier for noobs to install.
Also Hazer, there is a self edit mode which does make it "usable" with next gen games and patches.
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hahah, hazer dont hold back... give it to us straight.
and Glue is garbage i agree there, it will be an issue unless they clean real good with IPA wipes or something. There is nothing revolutionary about it except it removes 99% of user install errors which has plauged this type of mod from day 1. thats where the real beauty of the product shines through cuz it creates a much larger market then what current rapid fire products cater to.
The edit mode imho, is to date ,the easiest of any onboard editing mods I have seen implimented in rapid fire. It will get copied. Dont get me wrong it could be better, but its good enough to have already sold thousands of units to distributors. The numbers dont lie.
I agree BGR meshed with Viking product would be nice, however there is still a piece of that missing and that is a UI like ur product that would tie it all together. Just got to figure out how to secure the whole deal so that people cant just buy a mod like vikings and pump out chips like no ones business using other peoples work. you know how that goes.
This is BGR first mod product, I dont think it will be the last. I wonder what they could do with a coder who had more time then just lunch breaks and after hours sessions to work on it. :winker:
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Probably the best key selling point is the built-in LEDs. As said before, no more messing with that part. You need to stress this more in your presentation of the product.
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That's awsome, can't wait.
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what the price going to be.
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30$ is what the article says.
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Quite honestly, what is this other than a $7 chip you can get off Ebay? The FPC is nice, but not all that big of a deal. I have soldered to those before, and we are still talking about soldering to the edge of SMD parts. Ontop of that, after seeing the inside of quite a few controllers now the idea of glue really should not even be mentioned. I mean, what the hell is that white residue Microsoft leaves in there anyway? Its hard enough to solder to, let alone expect glue to keep good contact.
I know it seems like I am knocking this because I have a personal interest in the controller I designed, but I am only pointing out the obvious: Its another single-solution chip with a slightly easier install that costs $20+ more with no configuration or updatablility.
Now, if BGR and Viking get together, THAT would be the right way to go.
Hazer, sometimes I feel like you are my Brother from Another Mother. I have all the same exact opinions as you do above. :-) 'Nuff said on the technicals for me.
Since I launched Viking back at the end of June I have been anxiously waiting to see what would come next in the mod scene. Back in June, I had tentatively penciled in late October as a release date for a new Viking chip in anticipation of continuing competition. Intensafire showed up about a month earlier than I expected the competition to move.
I feel that the IntensaFire will be competing with (and putting out of business) the E-Bay crowd that is still peddling your old freeware source code :-). I don't see much direct competition between IntensaFire and Viking; I think the two products compliment each other well. If you are just interested in some rapidfire fun, IntensaFire is a nice little package. If you want more bells n' whistles, Viking is there as well.
We need InfraFire and Viking lovechild.
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i like viking360 USB great ideah ,,,and i like Hazer GUI app ... put them with IntensaFire ,,I
think we have one hell of the thing.. Far as Intersafire goes it has USB option build in
will not not release on launch but the option is there .... who knows . But this will not be
the last rapidfire. : )
Far as the pricing goes .. it will be around 27.00 - 29.99
Acidmods members will get the chepest pirce.
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I don't see much direct competition between IntensaFire and Viking; I think the two products compliment each other well. If you are just interested in some rapidfire fun, IntensaFire is a nice little package. If you want more bells n' whistles, Viking is there as well.
That is right on... both products target different segments of the market, which is good for all when it comes to the overlap. As BGR is an entry level and Viking could be considered a more advanced and configurable option for people that want more then entry level.
There is no rest for the wicked in this industry tho, everyone will want to get a piece of the pie as we have seen. Like Viking said, I hope we see this product weed out the posers, so the market can focus on the products from people who can actually do some cool things given the right market shares.
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May there be a day when theres no asshats selling Hazers open source code as there own pro made code for 30$ a chip.
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May there be a day when theres no asshats selling Hazers open source code as there own pro made code for 30$ a chip.
Actually, it was those that sold for $10 that flooded the market.
In the end, people just want cheap. I may do one more final mod, but it wont be for release. Quite honestly, the better the mod, the more it takes to make it, the more it costs, the less people really want it.
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Actually, it was those that sold for $10 that flooded the market.
In the end, people just want cheap. I may do one more final mod, but it wont be for release. Quite honestly, the better the mod, the more it takes to make it, the more it costs, the less people really want it.
I would buy another mod from you. Let us know if and when it comes out.
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personally i dont like it.... it looks cheap and doesnt offer anything that viking and hazer do. "USB mode later" is not an option in my opinion. The only thing this has is a fairly easy install.
Sorry, just not a fan of this....
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it look cheap ... wow ok ... and dont have what viking and hazer has they only thing is missing is burst ... which im not great fan off i think is dum.
has 4 mode with fast mode for COD WAW ... has edit mode with any range 1 - 255 ..
so no need for GUI or USB ... and takes 3 min to install vs 30 min ...
any one can do this install even some one who never solder before ..
and its not cheap to make ... so you think you can do better please show me
I have send samples out to some of the members and admins to write a review ..
will wait and see what they think
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it look cheap ... wow ok ... and dont have what viking and hazer has they only thing is missing is burst ... which im not great fan off i think is dum.
has 4 mode with fast mode for COD WAW ... has edit mode with any range 1 - 255 ..
so no need for GUI or USB ... and takes 3 min to install vs 30 min ...
any one can do this install even some one who never solder before ..
and its not cheap to make ... so you think you can do better please show me
I have send samples out to some of the members and admins to write a review ..
will wait and see what they think
mike, ive bought a lot of stuff from you in the past and i loved doing business with you. I also did some of your artwork.... im not trying to be a hater, im just giving my honest opinion...
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This is sweet never expected to a fully completed part that you just solder on and done nice mike,
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As I have installed all the mods you guys are comparing this product to, I need to speak up and state that this mod was desinged not for the experianced modder, but for the noobs, look at hazer and vikings products, both of them state that thier product is not for noob modders. the viking was one of the most dificult rapid fire mods to date. it was a 15 wire install with like 8 via solder points, and did not fit into the controller shell acuratly, a noob would have smashed it closed. (no offence to anyone with this next statment) there are not alot of 13 year olds installing a viking chip, or hazers for that matter. this product was designed with them in mind anyone can do this mod!! and still have 99% of the funtions these more intense mods have, one thing AM likes to do is learn from previous endevors, and to eliminate the problem with faulty DIY installes this product was born.
bottom line if you have hazers chip or viking chips, this may not be for you...but anyone who has little or no experiance with an iron, but still want to own, here is your chance.
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well said matt. noobafire? :dntknw:
This is also why there are a lot of haters floating around, due to the fact that we are targeting beginning modders/ non modders, people think that everyone will have rapidfire because of this. I sure hope that's the case, and being someone that designs this stuff but doesnt use it, I say bring it on. rapidfire or no rapidfire it aint gonna save you from the wrath of someone with a little skill brings to the game.
If you look at this product from matt and my perspectives as administrators on a modding website you will be excited that this type of mod is hitting the masses as it will undoubtedly bring many thousands of people that may never have been exposed to modding into the modding scene. which will be good for everyone around here who doesnt have an elitist attitude, and those that do are in the wrong place as Acidmods is here for all modders from noob to elite.
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noobafire i like that ... :tup: chad can i use that name on the next project
hehehe
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hey mike if you want to prove that anyone can solder it in send it me and i will risk my only controller and see if i can video my sister soldering it on she is 14 never soldered and isnt the biggest of gamers
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Yea i can see know why this was made i agree with no fun to doing ur self type of mod.
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As I have installed all the mods you guys are comparing this product to, I need to speak up and state that this mod was desinged not for the experianced modder, but for the noobs, look at hazer and vikings products, both of them state that thier product is not for noob modders. the viking was one of the most dificult rapid fire mods to date. it was a 15 wire install with like 8 via solder points, and did not fit into the controller shell acuratly, a noob would have smashed it closed. (no offence to anyone with this next statment) there are not alot of 13 year olds installing a viking chip, or hazers for that matter. this product was designed with them in mind anyone can do this mod!! and still have 99% of the funtions these more intense mods have, one thing AM likes to do is learn from previous endevors, and to eliminate the problem with faulty DIY installes this product was born.
bottom line if you have hazers chip or viking chips, this may not be for you...but anyone who has little or no experiance with an iron, but still want to own, here is your chance.
I'm about 95% in agreement with Matt on this one :-) (only taking exception to the statement that the IntensaFire maintains 99% of the functionality of more intense mods on the market. That is probably an argument for another day :dntknw:).
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I'm about 95% in agreement with Matt on this one :-) (only taking exception to the statement that the IntensaFire maintains 99% of the functionality of more intense mods on the market. That is probably an argument for another day ).
Lets not sugar-coat it: For $3 more and slightly more involved install (see below for details) you get either:
A) A mod that you will never ever have to open the controller ever again no matter what game developers throw at you (very important to those people who now own 4 RF controllers, 3 of which do NOT play on COD WAW).
B) A mod with a very easy and simple interface to fully customize everything RF (the onboard editting has never been a sell-point, only the GUI is) with a much better method of showing the 'mode' the controller is in (seperate multi-color LED instead of flashing player indicator, much better when in the 'heat' of the game).
**By 'slightly', I mean if you install the viking360 for RF trigger only (the macro button wiring is what is considered expert level since its 8 more wires and all vias) and my mod solders only to the big wiper & power spots on the board, no SMD solder points. The extra work is in the drilling.
So there is your breakdown. I fully agree that this mod is a great solution to those willing to pay more for less effort, but they also get less function. And V360 hit it on the head: That 1% your leaving out is the biggest 1% I have ever seen.
Edit: I should also state that my mod was never intended to be sold as a kit. It was supposed to be sold as a pre-installed controller only, offering the GUI and multi-color LED at a price below what everyone else was offering. Its target consumer was supposed to be those who did not want to install a mod themselves. It was because the solder points were llarge that I changed my mind.
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Lets not sugar-coat it: For $3 more and slightly more involved install (see below for details) you get either:
A) A mod that you will never ever have to open the controller ever again no matter what game developers throw at you (very important to those people who now own 4 RF controllers, 3 of which do NOT play on COD WAW).
B) A mod with a very easy and simple interface to fully customize everything RF (the onboard editting has never been a sell-point, only the GUI is) with a much better method of showing the 'mode' the controller is in (seperate multi-color LED instead of flashing player indicator, much better when in the 'heat' of the game).
**By 'slightly', I mean if you install the viking360 for RF trigger only (the macro button wiring is what is considered expert level since its 8 more wires and all vias) and my mod solders only to the big wiper & power spots on the board, no SMD solder points. The extra work is in the drilling.
So there is your breakdown. I fully agree that this mod is a great solution to those willing to pay more for less effort, but they also get less function. And V360 hit it on the head: That 1% your leaving out is the biggest 1% I have ever seen.
Very well put Hazer, couldn't agree more
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how many sps is this on the fastest setting on Cod WaW??? sweet idea, but i like to do the soldering :)
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10.76 shot per sec
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I spent a lot of time reading mod threads, how-to's and asking question across forums on the net. I messed up 2 controllers...1 never worked at all and the second worked sporadically. I took pictures, re-checked my work and still could never get it to work. After I saw this product I immediately ordered it.
Personally I think it's a great product and with the programmable option slot it has the ability to work with MW when it comes out and any other games. Call me a nub but paying $30 bucks was nothing however if there was a service that was provided for any other product to be installed by someone else I would have paid it but other services were much more.
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The AcidMods shop is soon going to have an install service available.