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Console Modding------ ( Here you can talk about your favorite Consoles ) => XBOX 360 => 360 Controllers / 360 Rapid Fire Controllers => Topic started by: 1TONpete on January 24, 2013, 12:52:14 PM
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I have an opportunity to do something special for a friend , I don't play xbox and its not something I am making to sell. but I think it will better the community. I would love some input.
where I got the idea link (http://www.gizmag.com/turbo-fire-evo-wireless-xbox-controller/20036/)
I want to make something that displays modes etc... in a better way.
I have thought about displaying just back lit images, but that would be to much space with all the different modes.
The tft in the link would make it so we could display what ever we want on the display.
a small tft resistive touch screen could be an awesome way to control and display RF/etc.
please lets work on something different and create something cool together...
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After some thought, I think this can be done. Touch screen lib can easily be found. And we know we can code for rf, quick scope what ever. We need to find a micro controller that can handle both. Why not go all out and have it re-mappable with macro's ? I am thinking like the complete remaps stuff we all ready have and just making the controls different and having a gui.
A really simple approach to this would be a led back light transparent image that is a fixed image , with say 4 zones or buttons. Use a restive touch overlay like the one in the pic. Use the zones or buttons just like tact switches. Then for display just use leds... mabey even RGB.
But all this aside start out simple but still be amazing.
I think a small tft touch screen w a simple but cool GUI would be sweet. If you skin the GUI that would be even cooler. Just swap icons and back grounds and bars and arrows etc. If anyone has ever messed with psp menus and themes you get it. But why not have it displaying and controlling your rapid fire or any and all custom controller functions.
I think I found something that can do this....
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11377 (https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11377)
(https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/images/products/1/1/3/7/7/11377-01a_i_ma.jpg)
Lots more info on this product here (http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=162)
product sheet (http://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/datasheets/LCD/Color/uLCD-144-G2GFX-DS-rev1.pdf)
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so at this rate With everything you want i say 100 In parts many hours of Coding, also a custom Case for the LCD and if you just going to
make it Plug in than need to be remove so you can Play with the controller than what is the point
How much would you think avarage Customer willing to pay to get this mod Done also if you adding macro thats another
14 input with out anologs that need to Grab and since anolog and trigger needed to be Converted to Digital Need Dacks
So who is Wring that , so there for we need a Clip so at this rate You at 200.00 ,
Now to talk about the Software for the Macro if it works and Does what it does and not Half crap like Wolf Controller
Something Like Viking360 which took team of people year to get done and close to 50K
so at this rate i give this success rate 1% but you can prove me wrong if you like.
Ah i forgot one think That was Just for CG Controller Boards so if you want Matrix controller Thats many More Hours Coding to make it work on both
Here what i do everything one has 2nd Screen In there house from Phones , Tablets,
use that for the screen since most people have it any way ,
need Your app work on android and IOS , Next Cuminacation between the 2 , Wireless Over Wifi or bluetooth
thats My approch the rest is Just Time and Testing and Far as install goes I use Clip which I can help on that when you get there all model of
Controller and PS3 so keeping the Wires Down.
Now for this Idea Another crazy idea. Using an mp3 player and using controlled sound files to be trigger outputs
thats was another crazy Idea Cyber Had the original Founder of Acidmods Turn Inputs to Tone that Save as MP3 so there for Store you
Macro Combo in Mp3 Player and take it to your Friend, another Great Idea , would never work ,
Problems how do you Fine Tune and Controller the Timing In between the Inputs , For EX delay 3ms than A A and where You save all that Info while Recording.
Any way GoodLuck
PS : For the Mold for the case for this Turbo Fire EVO Wireless Xbox Controller with cheat-friendly LCD display if you still want to use LCD
the cost is 25K i would start Playing the Loto Now
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I was thinking of just a working prototype. nothing for resale. kinda like a dream controller.
Possible I think yes, plausible not really.
I have thought about the andriod app stuff and andriod devices like the IOIO device. But thats something else.
A dock able version using a chat pad and a larger screen.
If the device from spark is capable of serial communication could it not interface with devices like remaps made by people here. Try and integrate it with the mods we all use that are simpler also.
I realize it would be tough and I would need a team of people to help build some thing like this , maybe someone will help?
Come on it does have a cool factor ?
This idea started out to make for a friend but now I think I want to build it for myself.
I was reading up on dallas 1 wire... I think this is a good way to go.
a sample I found interesting.
link (http://www.rentron.com/picbasic/one-wire2.htm)
They also make a dev board version of this.
Link (http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=171)
check out this lil gem... transparent displays... same dev boards. link (http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=181)
http://youtu.be/SG8fiff2qB4 (http://youtu.be/SG8fiff2qB4)
I have found projects built with this, that include touch and other features that make me think this can be done. Libraries are there.
I consider this a nice challenge.
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I see 2 versions , internal with 1.44" touch and limited features. like akimbo rf , quick scope , only trigger functions.
2nd would be a larger model with touch screen installed in chat pad shell. Try and include OSK. Plus have full rf/macros , the works. This one would be dock able.
I downloaded the software for the programming. It seams the visual version is fairly simple. Relatively speaking.
(https://www.acidmods.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=2903)10 minutes of looking the program.
Update to programming. really starting to get into it.
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Also the one wire feature will be very handy here. Only 2 io points but touch and trigger input and out put is needed. From my understanding it can control other micro controllers by giving them addresses.
Anyone one wants to get involved pm me.
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info on dallas 1 wire stuff. This link shows how to connect multiple buttons to a micro controller then control the micro controller via 1 wire master.
LINK (http://www.maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/4849)
more info on micro controllers and 1 wire.
Link (http://www.maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/2420)
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good progress pete
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Thanks man I will continue to dev on this on the programing side until I have the money to get everything I need to build a prototype . If I can get dual trigger functions That will be enough for me to build it. Nice thing about dallas 1 wire is I can add to my network any time by adding the new address and its function to the code. I am thinking about adding sockets for Micro controllers of different sizes on my dev board so I can swap in new features w/o resoldering.
question? build dockable large screen version or build imbedded version?
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dockable would be sick as :censored: lol hell anyway thatll work would be badass
if you dont mind i wanna look at software etc maybe i can help out with some funds so you get a working proto
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Thanks man. I appreciate the help. I am glad someone is showing interest. software link (http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=172)
getting started info link (http://4d.websitetoolbox.com/post/Devboard-G1-5546871)
Should I start a new dev topic? Touch rapid fire? A work log to keep track of info and post GUI layouts etc. get some feed back from the community.
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but does it blend and play iheart radio? lol jk
yeah maybe you should leave post here as there more traffic in the xbox section then anywhere else for some reason
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I think carefully planning how the touchscreen menus will work will make or break this mod. The hardware is all available with microcontroller technology I think that is the easy part.
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Found out how to control RGB leds using the same tech. Another add on to the software that would be a great feature.
PDF how to (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.4dsystems.com.au%2Fdownloads%2FApplication-Notes%2F4D-AN-P4010-ViSi-Genie-Connection-to-a-Host-with-Red-Green-Blue-LED-Control-REV1.1.pdf&ei=tp5AUYHABMnl4APGtIGAAQ&usg=AFQjCNEegB6IoGhAKwVrWtlsJz6WX2giSQ&bvm=bv.43287494,d.dmg)
updated main menu preview... please comment
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Led Menu
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Rf menu
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Workspace
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I would love to see this come to life.
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Thanks for the show of support Matt. I really like where this is heading. The more I learn the cooler it gets. Here are some of the possibilities I have thought of so far ... OSK (on screen keyboard for chat pad) , media player, ability to have sounds/animations for rf etc , Skin-able , Clock , LED rgb control with assignable colors to RF modes and combos of modes, on screen chat control with headset free chat , any thing else?
I would love to hear input from people. What would you like your controller to do?
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This is AMAZING! i would LOVE to have this, plus with all the features you want to add, its just awesome. I hope to see this come to life as well!
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I'm resurecting this thread.