New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip) with a wired controller?

[kog2902]

can you do this mod with a wired controller?

*EDIT*

Is there a reason no one is responding? I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong section but I figured the beginners corner was the right place. I would really appreciate the help


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~Bud~

[PspKicks316]

No one's responding because it had only been FIFTEEN MINUTES between your messages...and at 1:15 IN THE MORNING.
Wrong section also.

And no, it's never been tested and I'm fairly sure you can't.
It's a crappy method anyway.

[kog2902]

Well thanks for responding. But also it was more then 15 minutes but I edited the title and it changed the time. I figured it wasn't a great way but I had to order the crystals and capacitors and everything, so I just wanted something to try while waiting for it to get here.

[PspKicks316]

« Last Edit: Today at 01:18:45 am by kog2902

« Reply #1 on: Today at 01:32:02 am »

That's 15 minutes.

[treemty]

dude, dont try it, just be patient
also, be patient
oh yeah be patient...
did I mention patient?
im jk, but people dont answer questions THAT fast at 1 AM
also, when you edit your question...it doesnt change the time when the topic was started, or your response
also, DO NOT DOUBLE POST

[kog2902]

ok  and what are you talking about double posting (replying instead of editing)? If your talking about my other question no one answered I am asking a different question

[budgray19]

im not sure if i ever stated what a double post or a multi-post means in my pm to you.

it means that you posted a message. then you made another one after it. no one responded so you posted twice in a row.
if you need to add something to the topic you press this button it will allow you to edit you post.
you are new so ill let you off with a warning. i understand your new.
infact when i was new to fourms i posted 8 times in a row and got perma banned and didnt even know what i did wrong, when i found out what i did wrong i loled hard.. *sigh* good times*

but back on topic
~Bud~

[Nemesis]

I dont' think it actually will work because wired controllers have a constant power source of about 5V. For the no chip rapid fire to work, with a wireless controller the battery pack has to be half full, so because there is always a constant source on the wired controller then it probably wouldn't work. I haven't tried it myself, but that's my explanation, you could try and see if it works. But i don't recommend it as a permanent thing, it's best to just do it with a chip.

[Jumbo]

Im pretty sure it wont work because im almost positive that the wired controller dont have PWM. Also its not really a good rapidfire, a pic from mike or even a 555timer setup is muchhhh better.

[kog2902]

Thank you for being lenient with me about my posting. Its late when I get on and I can get a little frustrated trying to figure stuff out. Thanks for letting my know and answering my questions. I will try to be more patient waiting for my answers.

[802Chives]

So I havnt checked this myself since I havnt seen a wired controller in years but here is the reason why you wouldn't use PWM on a wired controller to run LEDS.

The way M$ used on the matrix controller to run the LEDs is a way to use varying voltage as a source to run your LEDs. The PWM signal will change as your battery voltage drops in order to deliver the same power to the LED. Since the wired controller already has a constant supply of 5V there are easier ways to regulate the power without PWM(they may be less efficient but since it is wired they are not as concerned with efficiency as you would be with a battery operated device)

As we all know the matrix controller was an overcomplicated device most likely designed by some dinosaur of an engineer in Redmond. I have a hunch M$ subcontracted out the CG design to someone who knows how to design a controller that is much cheaper to manufacture since the design was more robust and elegant.

A little about the battery Phenomenom that people have noticed with the Matrix one wire rapid fire mod:  When that batteries are fresh the PWM signal is not on long enough for the controller to see the pulse. When batteries are drained the PWM signal is on too long for the controller to see the break in the pulse. Hence why it only works when the batteries have a medium charge.