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Help for project
« on: July 05, 2011, 05:31:22 PM »
hai guys. i havent posted in a while and my psp mod hasnt been started still trying to find the best quality stuff to buy. anyways dont wanna get off track i need help with a project. btw i wasnt sure where else to post. ok i wanna make a type of led board to put on my wall cuz im making a gaming room and the board would be an awesome decoration. basically what i want it to do is light up a section to the corresponding player when one controller logs in. for example: i startup xbox with 1st controller and board lights up player 1 just like on the xbox. im also gonna be doing different colors for each part like p1=blue p2=green etc. so please help and tell me how i can do this and if its possible thanx!.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 05:36:48 PM »
should be relatively easy and achievable, let me get it right in my mind first, you want something to put on your wall that will light up when a player logs in, do you want it to be wireless or wired? any other special features?
 

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 05:54:51 PM »
Hey fren how would you do that wireless? I know how to do it wired, but wireless? hhmmm... interesting.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 06:10:49 PM »
Be allot more difficult and have to get the big boys of hyper and FOOKz in but....... i would guess using an RF frequency far away from the 360 controllers range, or if it will be in sight use IR, then when the person logs in it would be coded into a pic, then sent via RF or IR to the receiver, then is decoded through another PIC. So each player light has it's own coded signal

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 06:16:20 PM »
yea it would be wireless. im also gonna paint the controllers to their own number. example: a red controller could be player 1. @frenulem hmm ill do some studying on that. any other ideas and tips would be helpful!
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Re: Help for project
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 06:18:12 PM »
yeah look into TV remotes as i was thinking of it operation in the same fashion, if i can find that book in among all my crap i have abit more info on it

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 06:24:20 PM »
and the 360 controllers. do they work by bluetooth? how is the signal transmitted? im purty sure they dont have bluetooth.
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Re: Help for project
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 06:27:58 PM »
360 are Radio waves, PS3 are bluetooth

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 06:30:49 PM »
Radio gave me an idea... a radio scanner , that picks up on the frequency and turns on appropriate led.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 06:33:46 PM »
@denali31004 thats actually not bad hmm. gotta list on different frequencies the controller gives for different controls? or is it all the same?

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 06:39:26 PM »
ok i have found the book, ill see what i can get from it, or ill scan it or something

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 06:39:56 PM »
thanx

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 06:40:00 AM »
Radio gave me an idea... a radio scanner , that picks up on the frequency and turns on appropriate led.

Waaaaayyyyyyyyy to complex dude...

Bluetooth is probably best as it will definitely not mess with the controller signals.

This is what I would do;
- Microcontroller in the 360 reads the state of the LEDs on the RF board then transmits a byte with the states via a bluetooth modem
- Then another microcontroller in the display recieves the byte via another bluetooth modem and outputs to the LEDs via some transistors

For the micro controllers I would use arduino compatible hardware as its really easy and space and accurate timing is not really an issue here.

Also you could probably use RGB LEDs, this would allow you to pick and choose the colours with out taking anything apart.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2011, 08:13:51 AM »
what is your level of electronics knowledge? that may help

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2011, 08:22:59 AM »
^^ like wat?
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actaually now that i think of it its probably best for me to do it wired because im thinking now that since im gonna have painted controllers, i dont wanna waste money on batteries or a rechargeable pack and have to keep painting the rechargeable pack when i buy  a new one. yea its probably best for me to do it wired + the rooms not that big. so srry for the work guys great help! now that im gonna do this wired tell me how cuz i cant think of anything but have an extra cable coming out of the controller for the leds alone. so help me with a wired way instead please. thanx again for the help!
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Re: Help for project
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2011, 09:23:10 AM »
the controllers do not need to be connected to the display at all whatsoever, the console needs to be connected either wired or wireless. You can do either but it will be simpler and cheaper to do it wired.

Check my post above for wireless.

Wired
The simplest way to do it wired is as follows;
- Have a wire from each of the LEDs on the RF board and GND to a connector on the 360
- Then have a wire from the connector on the 360 to the display, then have transistors connected to the wires from the 360 LEDs to switch the LEDs on the display.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2011, 09:28:41 AM by hyper999 »

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2011, 12:35:30 PM »
That is exactly what i was going to say, but I thought he wanted to try it wireless?

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2011, 12:42:34 PM »
^^ like wat?
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actaually now that i think of it its probably best for me to do it wired because im thinking now that since im gonna have painted controllers, i dont wanna waste money on batteries or a rechargeable pack and have to keep painting the rechargeable pack when i buy  a new one. yea its probably best for me to do it wired + the rooms not that big. so srry for the work guys great help! now that im gonna do this wired tell me how cuz i cant think of anything but have an extra cable coming out of the controller for the leds alone. so help me with a wired way instead please. thanx again for the help!

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2011, 07:38:05 PM »
yea i was gonna try it wireless but for the size of the room its better to get a wired controller. would be a waste of money to buy new battery packs or batterys.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2011, 08:13:10 PM »
No we mean you can easily do it wired to your console not your controller.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2011, 12:50:50 AM »
No we mean you can easily do it wired to your console not your controller.
Please, yes this ^  keep it simple exactly what i was thinking.


Lets get this working wired before we attempt wireless.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2011, 06:17:23 PM »
no yea i know what you ment. i just noticed that what i said gave the wrong idea.?. ehhh yea ignore that post of doing it wired. i mean i still want it wired. one thing, i have a 360 my uncle found and im not sure if it works or if i can fix it. i only have knowledge on psps. anyways its an old version (no hdmi) if it has rrod would the test on the 360 still work the same than doing it on my working 360?

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2011, 05:31:32 AM »
no yea i know what you ment. i just noticed that what i said gave the wrong idea.?. ehhh yea ignore that post of doing it wired. i mean i still want it wired. one thing, i have a 360 my uncle found and im not sure if it works or if i can fix it. i only have knowledge on psps. anyways its an old version (no hdmi) if it has rrod would the test on the 360 still work the same than doing it on my working 360?

Not really, seeing as you can't sync a controller to a console with rrod how can you test it?

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2011, 07:13:51 AM »
Technically speaking he may be able to use it to test.  I am not sure how the red vs. green led is selected, but assuming it is just a different wiring, he could wire to the red portion of the LED instead of green.  Hook it to the wall LED board, then make sure the board on the wall is flashing all four LEDs like the 360 is, then go through the code reading (hold sync and press eject to see the different flash codes) to ensure the LEDs are lighting separately, that would show you that it is working.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2011, 09:52:20 AM »
Your are correct as a test he could use the red ring to show proof of concept.

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2011, 10:30:08 AM »
yeah I guess I was a bit over the top, test it with the red LEDs

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Re: Help for project
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2011, 07:58:31 PM »
Thanx u guys rock. I'm actually going on vacation in 2 days so when I get the stuff which shouldn't take more than a month ill keep ya posted :) o and 1 thing I'm thinking about adding a plug for the display behind the xbox so I can disconnect it when needed. I'm thinking a 2 pin for each led or altogether just an 8 pin alone shud do.

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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2011, 11:49:24 PM »

i was thinking something like this where you would connect each l.e.d to each switch the connect the corresponding lights to the reciever.
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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2011, 11:57:42 PM »
i take that back, its much more complicated as those probably arent simple buttons, they probably those damn plastic sheet things. This will be very complicated..........
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Re: Help for project
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2011, 08:00:06 AM »
U never know until u try :) o and watch the double post wouldn't want u to get in trouble.

 

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