Rapid fire w/ 555 timer.. NOT X-S rf tut

[bill16504]

I found this rapid fire mod quite awhile back using a low current 555 timer. These pics aren't mine, and I can't find who originally posted them, so I can't give proper credit. I've made quite a few of these and they work well.

555 timer - low current
22k resistor
1k resistor
0.1 uF cap

[kink192]

welcome to acidmods, nice job, soldering looks clean, at first i was wondering where the resistor from 6 to 7 is then i noticed it was on the bottom. give us a vid of it working please.

[bill16504]

No no... those aren't my pics, I don't want credit where credit isn't due. I posted them because I though they'd make a good reference for anyone who wanted to try making one. Here's a pic of mine:







As for a vid... I'm working on that. I make and sell xims (xbox input machine) and I want to make a vid of it's use. I just need to get a new camcorder.

[Nemesis]

looks awesome, much easier than XS tut as here there are less components
thanks

[thm ov3rkill]

think you might still can keep the rumble motors theres lots of places to put that in because it doesent look as big as llamas.

[bill16504]

That pic is of one of the first ones I did. The larger rumble motor sits on that side and the weight JUST clears the mod. For mods after that, I moved it over to the other side where the small rumble motor is.

[kink192]

umm chief...wheres the push button, thats kinda important when using a 555 otherwise it gonna be constant rapid fire.

p.s. if you dont mind pm me explaining the xim's im curious

[rulemob]

Iwas wondering if you could hook two buttons to this mod? just input both buttons to pin3? Wil this work on old and new?

[redryno1221]

yes you can hook up to buttons and it will work with both controllers

good job Bill16504

[bill16504]

umm chief...wheres the push button, thats kinda important when using a 555 otherwise it gonna be constant rapid fire.

p.s. if you dont mind pm me explaining the xim's im curious

Follow the white wires. It's hard to see it in the shadow, but the switch is glued there. I don't use those big Radio Shack switches. I get all my parts from Mouser and I use small tactile switches.


The xim allows you to use a mouse and keyboard on a 360 or PS3 and allows you to fully map you keyboard. Yes, the XFPS will allow you to on the 360, but those things are crap used alone.

[kink192]

oh ok, sorry dude, my screen is old and bunk so all the dark stuff i cant see. but it looks good, really clean. and the tact. switch is barely noticeable so your buds wont know you have it

[redryno1221]

Hey bill what is the mouser part # for the .1uf cap

[bill16504]

581-TAP104K035SCS

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=TAP104K035SCSvirtualkey58110000virtualkey581-TAP104K035SCS

[IDontGetHowtoWire]

Thats good?!

[PspKicks316]

Thats good?!

WTF?

If you want, here all of the RadioShack part numbers for the DUAL rapid fire using the CMOS555 timer.

R1 - 10k Ohm - 271-1335
R2 - 100k Ohm - 271-1347
R3 - 1k8(1.8k) Ohm - ***
R4 - 100 Ohm - 271-1311
R5 - 220 Ohm - 271-1313
D1 - 1N914 - 276-1122
P1(variable resistor) - 100k Ohm - 271-284
C1 - 1uF(Tantalum) - 272-1434
C2 - .1uF( - 272-1053
PB1 - Momentary(N.O.) - 275-1547
T1 - NPN - 276-1617
T2 - PNP - 276-1604

***Radioshack doesn't have these but you can wire a 1k ohm,330 ohm, and 470 ohm resistors together instead.




(I'm not trying to hijack the thread, I'm just trying to help out. If you want this removed just ask lol)

[pistolpete3521]

I have read this over and over, but I have one simple question. Is it faster than the two wire/tact switch method or the same, and the same question for the spitfire controllers. what is the comparison?

[kink192]

I have read this over and over, but I have one simple question. Is it faster than the two wire/tact switch method or the same, and the same question for the spitfire controllers. what is the comparison?

its up to you, best thing about a 555 is the variable part, i forget which one it is but if you replace one of the resistors with a variable resistor you can control speed, get it so fast that as soon as you press the button your clip is gone, or slower then normal fire.

[PspKicks316]

Adam, it goes from 3.5 to 6.8 per second, it had a pot on there already. It's labeled P1

[kink192]

i see that now chris, but i wasnt referring to your schematic though, i was meaning the 555 in general XP

[Crazy Germans]

where would you put the pot on the first schematic in order to change the speed?

[PspKicks316]

where would you put the pot on the first schematic in order to change the speed?

This is the SAME exact thing as the one in the other thread below this that we just proved not working. Don't bother wasting your time. I'll talk to Mike later about the 555 timer, he told me he'd try to work on it for me. Don't know if he got to it yet though.

[Crazy Germans]

This is the SAME exact thing as the one in the other thread below this that we just proved not working. Don't bother wasting your time. I'll talk to Mike later about the 555 timer, he told me he'd try to work on it for me. Don't know if he got to it yet though.

I just did this one today.  IT WORKS.  I'm sure the other one works too, but I think I must've done something wrong.

[SillyNuts]

and no this is not the same on ppl this uses a cmost low volt timer mine uses a cn time and this also uses dif comps. as well the only thing that would be the same is the jumpers dont say somthing dont work if you dont know what you are talking about ok ? thanks

[PspKicks316]

I don't have breadboard to test it with...and it looks too confusing just going by the pics to be able to just wire it. Thanks for letting us know it works though!

and no this is not the same on ppl this uses a cmost low volt timer mine uses a cn time and this also uses dif comps. as well the only thing that would be the same is the jumpers dont say somthing dont work if you dont know what you are talking about ok ? thanks

Will you STOP telling me I DON'T KNOW STUFF? THANK YOU.

[Crazy Germans]

I don't have breadboard to test it with...and it looks too confusing just going by the pics to be able to just wire it. Thanks for letting us know it works though!Will you STOP telling me I DON'T KNOW STUFF? THANK YOU.

Don't say it doesn't work, if you've never tried it.  k thanks 

[PspKicks316]

Dude. Omfg.Shut up.

[bill16504]

This is the SAME exact thing as the one in the other thread below this that we just proved not working. Don't bother wasting your time. I'll talk to Mike later about the 555 timer, he told me he'd try to work on it for me. Don't know if he got to it yet though.

Ahhh... which one are you saying you proved not working? The original one this thread is about?

[Crazy Germans]

Ahhh... which one are you saying you proved not working? The original one this thread is about?

Neither have been proved wrong.  I even did this one today and it works fine.

[PspKicks316]

Ahhh... which one are you saying you proved not working? The original one this thread is about?

You should probably read the posts AFTER that comment.

[Crazy Germans]

I got this one working, but does anyone know where to put the pot on this one?  That one guy says you can do it, and I'd like to turn up the speed cuz right now the speed of the needler and plasma rifle and all that stuff is the same.  Just better accuracy.

[aditya]

I got this one working, but does anyone know where to put the pot on this one?  That one guy says you can do it, and I'd like to turn up the speed cuz right now the speed of the needler and plasma rifle and all that stuff is the same.  Just better accuracy.

IN HALO u cant speed up the shooting ( i dont think) only make the accuracy better only one u can speed up the shooting is in cod4 and thats what these rapidfires were made for but for halo its ment for accuracy only thing that is rapidfire is the turret starting up faster then normal... thats all that is in halo..

[PspKicks316]

IN HALO u cant speed up the shooting ( i dont think) only make the accuracy better only one u can speed up the shooting is in cod4 and thats what these rapidfires were made for but for halo its ment for accuracy only thing that is rapidfire is the turret starting up faster then normal... thats all that is in halo..

Uhm...no. You're wrong. Ask KingMike, he got rapidfire working (faster shooting) in halo3

[Winterz117]

really? im thinking im gona do this tomarrow on one controller, and then go with mikes chip on another controller...but im very interested in variable speed with a pot... can someone elaborate on this, and maybe include a diagram for reference as i am easily confused

[Arsic]

I've made 555 timers before, but would this work on any wireless controller? No old/new board styles or anything.

[Winterz117]

yeah i think so... but im going to radioshach today to buy the stuff for this, does anybody have a clear diagram or picture of where the wires from the chip go on the controller? i can kinda see from the picture but its really unclear

[mikerzt]

it would be nice if there was a diagram too. those pictures are nice but i'd like to see where each is going to.

[Winterz117]

go to silly nuts's topic on page 4 there are some clear pictures. they helped me make mine :P

[mingmaster]

Hi All
I have tried building the dual version and it didnt work for me....Well it did and it didnt lol. When i pressed the right rapid fire button i got nothing but when i touched the metal case of my switch it did work....It seemed i had 2 live feeds going into the switch. It was probably something i did wrong because im really new to this electronics thing.......
Ok.
So i moved on for an easier version and found this thread.
I just have one question. "Does the + of the .1 capacitor go to number 1 or number 2 of the 555 timer.
Many thanks.

[bimmerman29]

i did this mod today and compared it to my ebay chip this mod was alot better and fast  ing awesome

[dvalle07]

So there is no need for a npn, is that correct?