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TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« on: March 14, 2007, 07:14:53 PM »
Hi i have seen some posts on trigger LEDs that you can turn off and on by clicking and some you can turn off and on by a installed button but i was wondering if there was a way to reroute it so you can turn it off an on by like pressing the music button or screen brightness button or like turning the hold switch on if there is a way or you might know one please post because i really would like to know because that would be very cool and because sometimes the LEDs get annoying thanks in advance. :victory:

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2007, 09:16:36 PM »
I believe you can wire it to the wifi switch, ask Foo or Tr4g- for more info as they are damn good with this stuff.

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2007, 01:54:06 AM »
yer i tried n i couldn't get it to work with the wifi

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2007, 08:17:13 AM »
The only option for switching the lights without installing another switch is to disconnect the hold switch from its control and use that. You will lose the ability to put the PSP on hold, however. Look at the switch on the back of the power board--it has four connections; two for power and two for hold. The switched hold pin will be pulled low when you turn on hold. Cut the trace from the pin to disconnect the switch, and use the pin as your control point. You will need to use a PNP transistor as a switch to do it this way.

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 08:09:08 PM »
Yeah the last post seemed hard so i was wondering if anyone gots some info on the wifi switch one thanks!

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 08:16:17 PM »
wow, these seem harder than i thought!, ill just stick to a stock psp until we figure outaway tohave dual internal sticks! :drunk:

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007, 11:12:44 AM »
Using the wifi switch makes the wifi board unusable; I don't recommend it.

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2007, 04:38:58 PM »
Hi
im intrested in using my hold switch too as a way of turning the lights on and off but cant find any tutorials on how its done exactly , i have a rough idea but was wondering if there was such a tutorial or diagram ?
allso what PNP transistor should i be using ?
any helps appreciated
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2007, 08:42:29 PM »
Hmm, yes a tutorial would be handy. Maybe when some one gets the time they could write one? I would be interested in using the HOLD switch since I just spent $200 on a wireless router for my PSP. So yeh any diagrams would be appreciated.
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2007, 02:38:24 PM »
[TUT] How to make your HOLD button into a secondary switch (when in hold the switch is made)

Pros: Switch that is stock and doesnt look like it does anything special! coolness factor +5?

Cons: cant put psp on hold (wtf do people use it for anyhow, i only used it once when i first got my psp (day one of US release)@!!!!


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REMOVE YOUR POWER SWITCH CIRCUIT BOARD (also known as the []ox/\ board)

position the board like so:



disjoint the connection by scratching the trace on the board, test with multimeter to make sure you have a full break (use a soft toothbrush to clean off the board after scratching)
Example:


the top two connections are the hold switch! when in hold the connection is made and whatever you have the switch do it does!

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**EDIT**

LOOK AT THIS PICTURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING DRASTIC:


« Last Edit: April 29, 2007, 04:11:14 AM by [HoP] »

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2007, 03:13:07 PM »
Wow thanks mate.
Just one more question.
When adding LED's to my PSP, where would I solder the wires (+ and -) on the board?
If it's not too much trouble, if someone knows how to do this, could you please circle the places to solder each wire (+ and -) on the picture below.


Thanks again, everyone here is so helpful.

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2007, 03:51:56 PM »
Hi
thanx for the info and diagrams HoP  :winker: , do i need to use a PNP Transistor to do this ?
if so what one ?
thanx.
i want to do this mod then move onto maybe doing the pulse sound mod as i have 6 psp's here to play with.
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2007, 04:11:10 PM »
6 PSP's.....Is that all?
Lol. I only have 1. :cry2:

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2007, 10:47:18 AM »
Wow thanks mate.
Just one more question.
When adding LED's to my PSP, where would I solder the wires (+ and -) on the board?
If it's not too much trouble, if someone knows how to do this, could you please circle the places to solder each wire (+ and -) on the picture below.


Thanks again, everyone here is so helpful.

you would have to flip the board. this is where to get your power from:

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2007, 11:17:39 AM »
Using the wifi switch makes the wifi board unusable; I don't recommend it.
so doing it using wifi switch makes it so u cant go online??

I thought it just makes it so u cant turn wifi on/off?
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2007, 02:23:10 PM »
Thanks [HoP].
That is the best picture I have seen so far of where to solder the wires. So I solder them there and when ever the hold switch goes on the lights will turn on.
Thanks again mate.

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2007, 04:35:27 PM »
Thanx for the diagram HoP it came in handy  :hifive:
all working sweet now.
1 of my white units has blue leds in the triggers now with Hold Switch to turn on and off.
I have 2 %100 clear units here im gunna mod too but im gunna add 4 leds this time and im wondering is 1 10ohm carbon resistor enough for 4 leds or should i use 2 ?
thanx in advance.
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2007, 09:14:42 PM »
Where did you get the resistors from?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 01:44:10 AM »
your local electronics shop should have them, there about 10p.

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 02:39:42 AM »
read how to factor resistance here:  http://www.doctronics.co.uk/resistor.htm

if you need further help, lemme know all the stats on the LEDs you got and when i get a few min ill help.

resistors stack, so if you needed 30,100OHMS you could use it like this:

--------[30K]-----------[100]---------       inline = 30,100 OHMS but to make it easier they have ALL KINDS of different resistors on the market.


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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2007, 04:07:44 AM »
**yeah yeah double post... i re-read the topig to see there are 2 people refering to my posts and i think there is confusion**


the picture with the thumbtacks is where you get your power from.... not where the hold switch would give you power.


im not sure if you would need a PNP transistor or not, you would have to ask someone who has completed the mod. i am just prepairing my PSP for modding and decided to help out people who just need that little extra bit of help to get their projects done.

the switch is grounded, and it would be the negative that would be switched if using it the way i was showing.



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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2007, 04:01:13 PM »
Yeah theres some that say to use a transistor and some say u dont have to, like they said u needed 1 when the led mod first came out then people found u can get by without 1.
im thinking the same for this way , lastnight i rigged it all up without a transistor and it worked like a charm so i duno.
thanx for the info on the resistor thouth HoP
i got my carbon resistors from ebay by the way. 10 for £2 or something, i got my 0603 smd leds too from ebay, nice and bright ,i hope to post pics ect once i get my units done.


RED = Negative
BLUE = Positive
GREEN BLOB = 10 ohm Carbon Film Resistor 1/4watt %5 Tolerance
White BOXS = led's

hope this helps someone
« Last Edit: April 29, 2007, 04:19:26 PM by Munch »
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2007, 07:25:46 PM »
im glad that i somewhat helped, i hope to see pics of your mod soon. my led's are in transit still (i guess...)

i ordered like 20 different things this last week so iono whats gunna come and/or when... i think i ordered a GPS thingy too... im not sure as i was super tired, i do have a few random $50~ transactions on my paypal though....

anyhow make sure that your setup is good as you do have positive power running on those wires whenever the psp is on... i personally wouldnt do it exactly like this, i just got some NPN transistors in the mail (i ordered PNP though)... ill see what i can do with these when i get some free time. will be busy this week.


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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2007, 10:18:24 AM »
I wanted 2 blue leds in the triggers which is working fine using 1 10ohm resistor but allso
wanted 2 red leds in where the speakers are but when i try and add the red leds and power up i get 1 red on and both blue leds off  :boxed:, ive not added both red leds yet and was just testing with 1 red so total leds running off the 1 resistor is 3 at the moment but i want 4 in total in the end. anyone have any ideas ? maybe i need to add a 2nd resistor for the red leds ? any helpful input is much appreciated

btw this is far the best site ive been on for PSP modding  :hifive:
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2007, 12:14:13 PM »
Is it possible to have have the LEDs turn on and off by putting the PSP on hold and hiting the music button?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2007, 12:17:47 PM »
no, hold cuts power to all the buttons.
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2007, 03:27:35 PM »
What I mean is, can you have the hold button rigged to the music button so that when you have hold on the music but will still have power to turn LEDs on and off?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2007, 04:11:34 PM »
Problem all sorted out now and my mods %99 done  :rofl: ,
all i have to do is put screws to faceplate back in.

The problem was overloading my resistor so now i have 2 resistors for 4 leds
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2007, 04:43:20 PM »
Yeah theres some that say to use a transistor and some say u dont have to, like they said u needed 1 when the led mod first came out then people found u can get by without 1.
im thinking the same for this way , lastnight i rigged it all up without a transistor and it worked like a charm so i duno.
thanx for the info on the resistor thouth HoP
i got my carbon resistors from ebay by the way. 10 for £2 or something, i got my 0603 smd leds too from ebay, nice and bright ,i hope to post pics ect once i get my units done.


RED = Negative
BLUE = Positive
GREEN BLOB = 10 ohm Carbon Film Resistor 1/4watt %5 Tolerance
White BOXS = led's

hope this helps someone



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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2007, 05:31:16 PM »
Im no electrician but yeah i tested it last nite and today and it seems to be fine, ive since added another resistor and 2 red led's and still its fine, i finish the unit tomorrow so i hope to post pics or maybe do a video i duno yet.

Does anyone know where i can get the things i need to do the sound mod ? or maybe just list what i need maybe ?
thanx
« Last Edit: April 30, 2007, 05:56:35 PM by Munch »
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2007, 08:48:37 AM »
Heres my first unit
Blue and Red Leds

http://www.youtube.com/v/TxBIf5OeIxI

sorry about the quality it was done on my phone.
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2007, 04:34:32 PM »
nice... grats on your mod!!!

i wish i would get my clear case in the mail, and the LED's i ordered got refunded so i had to buy them elsewhere (honk kong) will take awhile for shipping T_T

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2007, 07:48:42 PM »
Question:

I'm very interested in doing the Hold-switch-mod to turn on the trigger LEDs.

I was planning to go by the diagram showing the scratch and the wires added on in paint. (This one: http://www.btinternet.com/~deflection/scratched2bk2.jpg )

When the hold switch is turned on I want it to ONLY power the LEDs and not disable my other functions.

In other words....will scratching the surface like that prevent the hold function from working? (good thing in my case) I know it can be done but I'm just making sure.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2007, 07:51:09 PM by ClearTranquil »

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2007, 08:01:29 PM »
by scratching the trace on the mobo you will remove the functionality of the HOLD switch...



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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2007, 03:00:20 PM »
Hey nice work Munch.
I will definately be giving this a go.

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2007, 03:45:24 AM »



which pic is correct?

I mean which connection is negative?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2007, 08:35:47 AM »
the second pic is correct, the far right point is the proper connection...
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2007, 08:43:29 AM »
he is right, i did the mod using the [HoP] tutorial, good job!
itworks great, and looks great too

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2007, 12:20:23 PM »
just thought i would stick this in this thread for those that havent seen the video of 3
of my units done using the hold switch , i should have really stuck the vid in this thread first rather than make a new 1 so here it is.
i even end up dropping the phone camera at the end. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRD-kmLlMv4

hope to do the sound mod in the last 2 units i have.
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2007, 12:03:56 PM »
[TUT] How to make your HOLD button into a secondary switch (when in hold the switch is made)

Pros: Switch that is stock and doesnt look like it does anything special! coolness factor +5?

Cons: cant put psp on hold (wtf do people use it for anyhow, i only used it once when i first got my psp (day one of US release)@!!!!


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1x PsP
10x Minutes (variable depending on skill and steps required)
1x shank/blade/razor/needle/something sharp that can scratch small surfaces
Semi-Advanced modding abilities

Here we go, if you cant get to this point without me telling you then this mod is NOT for you!!!

REMOVE YOUR POWER SWITCH CIRCUIT BOARD (also known as the []ox/\ board)

position the board like so:



disjoint the connection by scratching the trace on the board, test with multimeter to make sure you have a full break (use a soft toothbrush to clean off the board after scratching)
Example:


the top two connections are the hold switch! when in hold the connection is made and whatever you have the switch do it does!

^^ GLHF ^^


**EDIT**

LOOK AT THIS PICTURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING DRASTIC:




so all i have to do is scratch the thing off and im done ?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2007, 09:45:33 PM »
he is right, i did the mod using the [HoP] tutorial, good job!
itworks great, and looks great too

You said [HoP] is correct

but jrfhoutx said Munch is correct

I am so confused

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2007, 09:02:14 AM »
You said [HoP] is correct

but jrfhoutx said Munch is correct

I am so confused

Here is what it should look like, with an actual wire soldered to the correct point:
« Last Edit: May 24, 2007, 09:11:07 AM by jrfhoutx »
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2007, 09:41:43 AM »
This thread has been hella helpful!!!! I got my SHOULDER LED's installed in a TA-082 with firmware 3.3 ..... now i'm going to trade that for a TA-079 with firmware 2.5 and have at that one !!!! hahahahah THANKS GUYS your pics have helped out a lot ... I'll post pics soon

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2007, 09:52:40 AM »
so you just scratch that bit off and solder everything normally on the other side and it would work?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2007, 08:29:53 PM »
I want to see if i understand this right.  The positive wire is soldered to the same place as in the normal mod.  The negative wire is attached to the hold switch instead of the place on the top of the power board.  Also that area is scraped off.  Is this correct?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF AND ON/ PSP SCREEN SHOWS NOTHING
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2008, 09:34:42 PM »
 :cry2: Can anyone help me I did the mod with hold switch and everything but when I connectd my screen and turned on the PSP THERE  was no XMB, I couldn't scroll through to any of the options, it was just blank screen with nothing on it just the background with wave, Can anyone help me please.?

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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2008, 09:38:40 PM »
:cry2: Can anyone help me I did the mod with hold switch and everything but when I connectd my screen and turned on the PSP THERE  was no XMB, I couldn't scroll through to any of the options, it was just blank screen with nothing on it just the background with wave, Can anyone help me please.?

please do not bump up old threds, just start a new one next time :cry2:
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Re: TRIGGER MOD OFF & ON QUESTION
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2008, 09:45:22 PM »
This thread has been hella helpful!!!! I got my SHOULDER LED's installed in a TA-082 with firmware 3.3 ..... now i'm going to trade that for a TA-079 with firmware 2.5 and have at that one !!!! hahahahah THANKS GUYS your pics have helped out a lot ... I'll post pics soon

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Can anyone help me I did the mod with hold switch and everything but when I connectd my screen and turned on the PSP THERE  was no XMB, I couldn't scroll through to any of the options, it was just blank screen with nothing on it just the background with wave, Can anyone help me please.?

 

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