Author Topic: What size are the torx screws? (Read 5610 times)

Venom_762 · « **on:** December 25, 2008, 08:14:56 PM »

Anyone know what size the Tamper proof screws are?

Venom_762 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 25, 2008, 09:01:52 PM »

Got it # 9 torx.

Tec_ · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2008, 12:05:53 AM »

i thought they were 10, at least thats what i have and use

802Chives · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2008, 08:33:35 AM »

the ones for the xbox360 console are T10 torx. The one for the 360 controller is T8 security torx, and have a post in the center so regular torx wont work.

taylorclark · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2009, 08:09:37 AM »

has anyone here ever tried making their own torx security bits with a drill press, a vise and some torx keys? i've always wanted to try it....

Alien_X · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2009, 08:22:34 AM »

Nope, but would be pretty easy.

Most people here don't own pillar drills.

Welcome to the minority

taylorclark · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2009, 10:04:57 AM »

Quote from: Alien_X on January 05, 2009, 08:22:34 AM

Nope, but would be pretty easy.

Most people here don't own pillar drills.

Welcome to the minority

oh i don't have one. but i want one reeeeeaaaally badly. i'll probably buy one soon, it hard to get good, straight cuts into anything with a cordless drill. and i've been considering venturing into etching my own pcb boards soon, and it takes a steady hand to drill the holes i hear.

Modded Matt · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2009, 11:46:41 AM »

even with a drill press, this would be a tough job. the torx keys should be hardened steel. better have good bits LOL, atleast they are not stainless

Alien_X · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:03:59 PM »

Could be done with a lathe or a mill too.

taylorclark · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:38:02 PM »

Quote from: modded matt on January 05, 2009, 11:46:41 AM

even with a drill press, this would be a tough job. the torx keys should be hardened steel. better have good bits LOL, atleast they are not stainless

so its do-able? i'd probably make sure to have lots of lube, take my time and have some decent bits.

Modded Matt · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:47:56 PM »

I am sure it can be done. the real question would be is it worth doing???LOL

Venom_762 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2009, 05:24:24 PM »

I have a Really nice MAC kit and found the T9's to fit the controller better.

taylorclark · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2009, 08:45:16 PM »

Quote from: modded matt on January 05, 2009, 12:47:56 PM

I am sure it can be done. the real question would be is it worth doing???LOL

i think it would be. those torx security bits are hard to find, and usually when you do find them, they are too big to fit into the holes in the controllers. so i think it would be simple enough to buy a torx key set for $7 and drill holes into them.

802Chives · « **Reply #13 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:27:58 AM »

I have thought about trying it on a lathe, but like modded matt said, these bits are hardened. I believe they are similar in composition as a standard drill bit, so you will need a super hard drill bit to do it.

A drill press may work with and extra hard bit, but make sure to use a vice that is fixed to the press.

I have used a flat head jewelers screw driver and file a notch in the middle where the post goes. cant remember the size but there is stuff on the internets about it so try google.

taylorclark · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:45:07 AM »

heres a little something i found.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061115055345AAnHerZ

i wonder if these would work...
http://www.amazon.com/20pc-Diamond-Tipped-Bit-Set/dp/B000FMTW1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1231253045&sr=1-1

802Chives · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2009, 08:49:15 AM »

yup, sounds like you are on the right track. I have used dimond files for modifying bits before. there was an interesting tip for heating the bit up in order to soften it a little, effectively what will happen when you drill into it.

Cobalt and titanium coatings may work as also was mentioned. the best piece of info in there was taking your time and use lube if you can.

I think that the hard part is holding your bit steady. I wouldnt tempt this without a lathe with the proper chuck, or a drill press/ mill with proper holding (I E: all the parts drill press and vice are rigidly connected)

taylorclark · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2009, 08:54:10 AM »

Quote from: 802Chives on January 06, 2009, 08:49:15 AM

yup, sounds like you are on the right track. I have used dimond files for modifying bits before. there was an interesting tip for heating the bit up in order to soften it a little, effectively what will happen when you drill into it.

Cobalt and titanium coatings may work as also was mentioned. the best piece of info in there was taking your time and use lube if you can.

I think that the hard part is holding your bit steady. I wouldnt tempt this without a lathe with the proper chuck, or a drill press/ mill with proper holding (I E: all the parts drill press and vice are rigidly connected)

i would like to try this sometime, but unfortunately i don't own a drill press yet. i've been spending too much money on moddin my 360 :/ haha ...anyway, i wouldn't attempt this without the proper tools, such as drill press, vise attached to drill press, the proper bits, lube and some patience. So it'll be awhile before i can afford these items. But it is neat to know that it can be done, i think someone here should try it.

blackburn · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:30:56 PM »

i recently got my dad's friend to use his lathe with his smallest bit, to drill out my Craftsman Presicion Torx Set, took about 45 minutes to do all 8

taylorclark · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2009, 05:04:51 PM »

Quote from: blackburn on January 06, 2009, 04:30:56 PM

i recently got my dad's friend to use his lathe with his smallest bit, to drill out my Craftsman Presicion Torx Set, took about 45 minutes to do all 8

sweet, they all work okay?

blackburn · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2009, 07:04:39 PM »

yeah they work perfect, beofre that though, i just got a flathead screwdriver and broke the post off in the center...

taylorclark · « **Reply #20 on:** January 07, 2009, 06:05:40 AM »

Quote from: blackburn on January 06, 2009, 07:04:39 PM

i just got a flathead screwdriver and broke the post off in the center...

thats what i do now, but its a pain to do

taylorclark · « **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:15:27 PM »

sorry to double post, but i finally got a drill press, a vise for the drill press and some decent drill bits(birthday money!). So i tried to drill out the center of a torx bit to make a torx security, and they wouldn't penetrate, it just wobbled around or just slid on the surface of the torx driver. any ideas on how to get it to drill?

psp339 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 12, 2009, 10:49:57 PM »

Quote from: taylorclark on February 12, 2009, 08:15:27 PM

sorry to double post, but i finally got a drill press, a vise for the drill press and some decent drill bits(birthday money!). So i tried to drill out the center of a torx bit to make a torx security, and they wouldn't penetrate, it just wobbled around or just slid on the surface of the torx driver. any ideas on how to get it to drill?

I got the same problem. It just goes around but doesn't drill into the torx. I just broke off the pins using a 1.5mm flat head.

blackburn · « **Reply #23 on:** February 15, 2009, 01:06:05 PM »

make sure to use a lot of lubrication when doing it. it takes a long time!

taylorclark · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2009, 06:37:05 AM »

Quote from: blackburn on February 15, 2009, 01:06:05 PM

make sure to use a lot of lubrication when doing it. it takes a long time!

what kinda lube? ...and i figured out a way... sorta, i tried it on an allen wrench, the wrench was made out of the same material as my torx keys. i ground the tip flat with a bench grinder, and then slowly drilled a quarter inch deep hole into the tip.

blackburn · « **Reply #25 on:** February 16, 2009, 03:27:34 PM »

use an oil

taylorclark · « **Reply #26 on:** February 16, 2009, 03:31:19 PM »

Quote from: blackburn on February 16, 2009, 03:27:34 PM

use an oil

such as?

ScatRD · « **Reply #27 on:** February 24, 2009, 01:08:39 PM »

Quote from: taylorclark on February 16, 2009, 03:31:19 PM

such as?

What you want is a cutting oil, Ridgid makes a very good cutting oil for use on threading pipe and can be found at some Home Depots. You can also go to auto parts houses and get cutting oil. If nothing else use a light weight motor oil, it will not work as well but use it liberally to keep the heat down which is the biggest problem when working with hardened steel.

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