what to do to my pc and how...

[RyanF]

hey guys I was wondering what I should do to my dell dimension 2400. I was thinking about changing the motherboard. If I could link my 3 older PCs and an old motherboard together with my dell that would be great.  the old motherboard is meant for windows 95 and has no ram or harddrive. the other computers are running 3.whatever and 98. anything I can do with them? I also forgot one thing. they also have serial ports on all of them. the one running 3.xx has 2 serials but cant handle a mouse

[PspKicks316]

the old motherboard is meant for windows 95 and has no ram or harddrive.

I suggest not ever touching the inside of a computer after saying this. You have no clue what you're talking about or doing.

[Modded Matt]

sounds like you have a large box of trash that needs to be hauled off to the dump.

[HiddenVenom]

Or you could use it to make some interesting contemporary art?

[ConsoleSwag]

i would use it to start a bonfire 

[smithy141]

lol.

[jacobia jacob]

i used to have one. its not worth upgrading at this point. just build/buy a new one

[budgray19]

yea the parts to make them just a bit less crappy would cost u more than to do a upgrade on lets say a modern computer

[aZiZ1]

I suggest not ever touching the inside of a computer after saying this. You have no clue what you're talking about or doing.

Pspkicks, i love you(no homo)

[RyanF]

I suggest not ever touching the inside of a computer after saying this. You have no clue what you're talking about or doing.

I think i know what I'm doing. in fact I've actually started figuring the parts for a gaming PC.  I only need the money and I'm onto the next part... assembly. and yes i know about the static charge and grounding.  anybody here know of an x58 chipset with wifi? my parents wont allow wifi in my room and I'm wanting a decent motherboard without having to get an extra wifi card for the pci/pcie cards. if not then I'm going to have to modify or clone my laptops wifi card to usb somehow. maby an adaptor.

[jacobia jacob]

Desktop motherboards usually don't have integrated wireless adaptors. Buy a USB dongle if you don't wanna buy a card. Also your parents won't let you have wifi in your room? You mean they won't let you have your own router or they refuse to switch to a wireless router for your house?

[aZiZ1]

hes not allowed to have access to the internet where his parents cant see. What you could do is hook up the ethernet cord to your laptop from this desktop and bridge the connections so that the desktop uses the laptops wifi card.

[treemty]

hes not allowed to have access to the internet where his parents cant see. What you could do is hook up the ethernet cord to your laptop from this desktop and bridge the connections so that the desktop uses the laptops wifi card.

Thats pretty sad, that his parents dont trust him that much

[aZiZ1]

Thats pretty sad, that his parents dont trust him that much

you'd be surprised, many parents are over controlling for some god forsaken reason.

[jacobia jacob]

you'd be surprised, many parents are over controlling for some god forsaken reason.

it happens i guess. however my point still stands, a wireless usb dongle would fix that problem, just dont tell them about it. thats assuming you dont use a wep or wpa encryption or you have access to the password for said encryption.

[HiddenVenom]

You need to be careful with wireless... Like any network you can see what mac adresses are accessing it... And modern wifi routers are reasonably resistant to... Methods... due to companies giving passwords straight out the box... But tbh the weo key will probably be on the router anyway.

[jacobia jacob]

99.9% of parents won't have a clue how to check what mac addresses are connecting to their router.

[HiddenVenom]

True. My Dad is one of the 0.01% who can, which is why I said it.

[RyanF]

it happens i guess. however my point still stands, a wireless usb dongle would fix that problem, just dont tell them about it. thats assuming you dont use a wep or wpa encryption or you have access to the password for said encryption.

how the heck would I get one though?  I have to use their ebay account to get stuff and their credit card to pay for it.  I wouldn't be able to sneak it past them. btw I was the one who set up the router so I know the password.   and yes it uses wpa. the laptop bridging to the pc idea is a dead end as well. the mobo is fried but everything else still works. including its wifi card.  maby could I use one of my psps as the dongle? oh and another thing: when I set up the router i added my own network for my PSP systems so my parents will have problems seeing if i'm on the internet.

[HiddenVenom]

Look here:
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=219873

It's some homebrew software that allows you to use the psp in place of a WLAN card.

Ah the joys of google search.

[RyanF]

thx venom. that will help a bit. now to the harddrives... what kind of raid should I do? I am going to use a 1.5T sata and several of the old ide harddrives so I can run a multiboot. found something to do with those computers. 4 from the old desktops and one from the laptop. the laptop harddrive uses sata but it looks like ide connections. I already found a sata to ide adapter but wondering if it would work.  I am wanting to get as few of them as possible. http://www.dhgate.com/by-ems-10pcs-lot-ide-to-sata-adapter-ide/p-ff8080811c9d8357011ccd5e220668c6.html
here's the list of the stuff im thinking of geting:

harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive                           
video card:            DIAMOND AIWHD3650 Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready  All-in-Wonder Video Card       
power supply: APEVIA ATX-AS500W-GN 500W ATX    Power Supply
thermal paste: Arctic Silver Ceramique Thermal Compound - OEM
motherboard: ASRock X58 Extreme 3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
laptop harddrive adaptor: VANTEC CB-ISATAU2 SATA/IDE to USB 2.0 Adapter
pcie to ide adaptor: Rosewill RC-216 PCI Express eSATA II x 2 / ATA 133 x1 RAID 0/1/0+1/JBOD/ un-RAID mode Controller Card
watercooling system: Thermaltake CL-W0075 Liquid Cooling System
blu-ray drive:SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo Drive - Bulk SATA Model SH-B083L/BSBP LightScribe Support - OEM
case: panzer box (no link)
cpu:Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930sata to ide:          SABRENT SBT-SCIDE SATA to IDE Ultra ATA-100/133 Mini Converter
please add a link for the ram.If any of this stuff won't work together or I am missing something please tell me.

[Ennon]

1) DON'T use IDE drives, ffs. And you don't need SATA-IDE adapters, your mobo has IDE slots. . .
2) Seagate? No way, that'll fail on you. Get a Samsung F3 instead, it's faster too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
3) You don't need water cooling for this. Stick with air, it'll work fine.
4) Your graphics card is complete crap. GDDR2 is slow. Btw, scrap ATI get a nVidia instead. ATI drivers are f*. For the same price, try a GeForce GT 240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121369, or if you must go with ATI, here's a Radeon 5670: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467
5) I don't like your mobo anyway, never heard of the brand. Try a Gigabyte, best mobo brand I've ever used: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423
6) You forgot your RAM 6GB of DDR3 1600 should be good for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225 (And no, DDR2 will NOT work if you're looking for an alternative.)
7) Oh, your power supply. I would not recommend this one. You'll want a Modular Power Supply. Only $10 more for modular and 730 watts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036

Otherwise, your build looks fine. Just do some research on what you're doing

EDIT: Oh, and PCI-e Wifi: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048 :P

[jacobia jacob]

how the heck would I get one though? they already monitor almost every aspect of my life.  I have to use their ebay account to get stuff and their credit card to pay for it.  I wouldn't be able to sneak it past them. btw I was the one who set up the router so I know the password.   and yes it uses wpa. the laptop bridging to the pc idea is a dead end as well. the mobo is fried but everything else still works. including its wifi card.  maby could I use one of my psps as the dongle? oh and another thing: when I set up the router i added my own network for my PSP systems so my parents will have problems seeing if i'm on the internet.

you can buy them at walmart... sneak it past them or pay one of your friends to grab it for you. also as an alternative to the psp tethering you can use a jailbroken itouch and an app called pdanet to do the same thing.

[RyanF]

1) DON'T use IDE drives, ffs. And you don't need SATA-IDE adapters, your mobo has IDE slots. . .
2) Seagate? No way, that'll fail on you. Get a Samsung F3 instead, it's faster too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
3) You don't need water cooling for this. Stick with air, it'll work fine.
4) Your graphics card is complete crap. GDDR2 is slow. Btw, scrap ATI get a nVidia instead. ATI drivers are f*. For the same price, try a GeForce GT 240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121369, or if you must go with ATI, here's a Radeon 5670: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467
5) I don't like your mobo anyway, never heard of the brand. Try a Gigabyte, best mobo brand I've ever used: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423
6) You forgot your RAM 6GB of DDR3 1600 should be good for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225 (And no, DDR2 will NOT work if you're looking for an alternative.)
7) Oh, your power supply. I would not recommend this one. You'll want a Modular Power Supply. Only $10 more for modular and 730 watts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036

Otherwise, your build looks fine. Just do some research on what you're doing

EDIT: Oh, and PCI-e Wifi: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048 :P

dang that adds up to... over my limit of about 600  I need to keep it cheap.

[Ennon]

dang that adds up to... over my limit of about 600  I need to keep it cheap.

. . . It's cheaper than the list you had >_>

[PspKicks316]

That's a terrible setup you listed. I believe Ennon hit all the main points so I'm not going to bother ripping it apart more. To 'help' out a bit more, though...

1) DON'T use IDE drives, ffs. And you don't need SATA-IDE adapters, your mobo has IDE slots. . .
2) Seagate? No way, that'll fail on you. Get a Samsung F3 instead, it's faster too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
3) You don't need water cooling for this. Stick with air, it'll work fine.
4) Your graphics card is complete crap. GDDR2 is slow. Btw, scrap ATI get a nVidia instead. ATI drivers are f*. For the same price, try a GeForce GT 240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121369, or if you must go with ATI, here's a Radeon 5670: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467
5) I don't like your mobo anyway, never heard of the brand. Try a Gigabyte, best mobo brand I've ever used: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423
6) You forgot your RAM 6GB of DDR3 1600 should be good for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225 (And no, DDR2 will NOT work if you're looking for an alternative.)
7) Oh, your power supply. I would not recommend this one. You'll want a Modular Power Supply. Only $10 more for modular and 730 watts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036

Otherwise, your build looks fine. Just do some research on what you're doing

EDIT: Oh, and PCI-e Wifi: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048 :P

4) The GTX240 is garbage. ATI has good drivers. I've running a 5770 and 5570 with 0 problems. Get the GTX 460 if you want the best price:performance option.
5) ASRock is supposedly Asus boards built with the lower quality components. I don't know the validity of this, though. Regardless, don't get it. GB is iffy.
6) No. Don't get anything higher than DDR3 1333 or it's a waste of money for OP. The board with automatically underclock the RAM down to DDR3 1066 because that's what the x58 chipset allows. To get it to run faster, you need to overclock the system.
7) Modular PSUs fail more often and are far less efficient. Always get a dedicated one.

OP: I suggest reading up on building computers more. Before that, learn how a computer even works considering you don't seem to know (I still stand by my first post). You're heading on the right track, but still have a long, long, way to go before you're going to be ready to build your first computer.

[Ennon]

That's a terrible setup you listed. I believe Ennon hit all the main points so I'm not going to bother ripping it apart more. To 'help' out a bit more, though...
4) The GTX240 is garbage. ATI has good drivers. I've running a 5770 and 5570 with 0 problems. Get the GTX 460 if you want the best price:performance option.
5) ASRock is supposedly Asus boards built with the lower quality components. I don't know the validity of this, though. Regardless, don't get it. GB is iffy.
6) No. Don't get anything higher than DDR3 1333 or it's a waste of money for OP. The board with automatically underclock the RAM down to DDR3 1066 because that's what the x58 chipset allows. To get it to run faster, you need to overclock the system.
7) Modular PSUs fail more often and are far less efficient. Always get a dedicated one.

OP: I suggest reading up on building computers more. Before that, learn how a computer even works considering you don't seem to know (I still stand by my first post). You're heading on the right track, but still have a long, long, way to go before you're going to be ready to build your first computer.

4) Um, what? I currently have a GT 240 as my main card, until I have enough money for a GTX475 when it comes out. (Of which then this would become my PhysX card.) I can run Crysis on High settings with ~22 fps. For the price I paid for it ($60) it was absolutely worth it. And no, ATI's drivers are garbage compared to nVidia's. ATI's lack of customization options drives me nuts
5) I've always had great mobos from Gigabyte
6) Huh, I didn't know this. I'll keep that in mind when I build my i7 setup soon :P
7) [citation needed]   Jokes aside, I personally have a modular Ultra X3 550w that's been running for 3 years, it's been great. I'm not sure what the issues with modular PSUs you claim are?

[TwisTtheTwiTcH]

Man Ryan, if you have 600 dollars to spend on one you should really just buy a computer. Few people need to have a power house of a computer at there disposal it turns into more of an ego thing. For less that 600 you can get a computer that does what you need and it'll be cheap enough if you want to upgrade one aspect of it you'll be able to do so still.

-TwisT

Added: Mwahaha this was my 400th post.

[Roldy]

i have a dell demison 2400 also with the celeron prosser and i just hooker it to my tv and store my media files on it that all its good for lol  all u can basicly  do is upgrade the hdd and use it for storage

[Ennon]

Also, just thought of this - Is your case an ATX or MicroATX? If it's not ATX, the new mobo won't fit and you'll need a new case.