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Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« on: January 12, 2011, 09:47:28 PM »

Sony has filed suit against George Hotz -- more commonly known for his work in jailbreaking iPhones -- and a hacker group called "failoverfl0w," accusing both of copyright infringement and other related charges over their work to circumvent Sony's PlayStation 3 copyright protection.


The Japanese game maker is partially at fault here, having failed to use properly secure cryptography in order to ensure that pirated software can not run on the console. Hackers discovered the private key, and now can allow copied versions of games to run on the console without any issues.

Hotz and the others are being charged with breach of contract, several copyright infringement charges, as well as violations of copyright law in the state of California. Sony seeks both injunctive relief and punitive damages.

"Hackers will succeed in their attempts to ensure that pirated software can be run on the PS3 system, resulting in the destruction of SCEA's business" unless the court takes actions, Sony argues in the suit.

While failoverfl0w only published a video showing proof that the crack was possible, Hotz himself actually released a modified version of the PS3 hardware allowing for the running of non-signed software. It should be noted that originally hackers were looking to run Linux on the console, but it could just as easily be used for less than legal purposes as well.

Hotz seems not to be concerned about the legal action against him. "I would expect a company that prides itself on intellectual property to be well versed in the provisions of the law, so I am disappointed in Sony's current action," he told the BBC. "I have spoken with legal counsel and I feel comfortable that Sony's action against me doesn't have any basis."

The lawsuit was filed in the US District Court of Northern California.


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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2011, 11:31:36 PM »
Nice find.

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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 05:51:58 AM »
So, it was ok and didn't require a lawsuit when the psp was hacked and backups could be run, but it's warranted on the ps3? Sounds like Sony may have an uphill battle on this one...
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 07:26:02 AM »
i have been following this on psx-scene.com they have all the legal documents here and after reading through them sony is grabbing at straws here and it will be thrown out very easily

and his pup didn't contain any sony code look at the file size it is a add-on to the firmware and if you notice you have to install it after you install sony OFW 3.55
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 07:32:04 AM »
Quote from: jrfhoutx on January 13, 2011, 05:51:58 AM
So, it was ok and didn't require a lawsuit when the psp was hacked and backups could be run, but it's warranted on the ps3? Sounds like Sony may have an uphill battle on this one...

i think the main difference is that sony know the identity of these guys without doing much research where as with the psp they didnt really know who dax or math were
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 07:40:20 AM »
if anyone read the new agreements you will see that of anyone that hacks it that they can and will take law suits to the people that did this but some hackers don't think before spreading stuff.
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2011, 09:40:09 AM »
Yes, but the recent ruling on DMCA (iPhone jailbreaks) never stated specific devices it simply ruled that once the product has been purchased the owner has the right to circumvent the lockdown to obtain restricted functionality... Though it did state that the owner must do the work themselves to crack the device's security...
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 11:54:05 AM »
by doing the work yourself, do they mean labor or finding an exploit?
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 03:20:05 PM »
I believe they mean that you must do the coding yourself, it wasn't made very clear which means there is some leeway in interpreting the ruling.
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 09:34:39 PM »
Quote from: jrfhoutx on January 13, 2011, 03:20:05 PM
I believe they mean that you must do the coding yourself, it wasn't made very clear which means there is some leeway in interpreting the ruling.
almost everyone who jail breaks doesn't have that much experience with coding to be able to do it there selfs
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011, 05:56:26 AM »
I think that's the point...
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 11:43:25 AM »
so they expect to be able to take legal action against that many people?
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2011, 01:00:22 PM »
No I don't think they expect to do it, but using that wording allows them to go after whoever they want if they want to...
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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2011, 11:05:14 AM »
quick question because the topic got me nervous now... Can i get sued for selling psp's pre-modded  (pre-modded meaning only led lights and internal cameras n stuff)

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Re: Sony sues Hotz, hacking group over PS3 hacks
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2011, 11:09:13 AM »
no only if you sell with games on it.
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