Author Topic: PS3 DVD DRIVE LOGIC BOARD question (Read 38854 times)

Rodent · « **on:** March 27, 2011, 08:13:51 PM »

I have been looking around and cant find the answer, I have a PS3, that i changed the Logic board on and everything works yet will not read the disk, and I know why because the board is differnet then the one that belongs to it, its off a 20 gb PS3 and not a 40gb... yet I found out that the board is no good. TESTED thats all.

I have been reading and looking. My question ,IS the logic board keyed like a 360 to match the motherboard or can I just replace the board and it will work?

DuctTapedGoat · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:37:31 AM »

The logic board is "married" (tech term) to your PS3s mainboard.

There's a way to remarry a logic board to your mainboard - I haven't done it, but there's plenty of people who have. I can try and do some Google-fu and find something, but your best bet is to either find a tut or find someone who's done it who will make a tut for you.

Rodent · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:08:35 AM »

I have found some info on it, and just not sure, if you just need the same firmware board, I tried another board, from a 20 gb ps3 which mine is a 40 gb drive, and everything worked, except it wouldnt read the cd or game, it would auto feed in and spin up the laser worked and just wouldnt read and had no errors. I did see that you need to replace 2 chips from yours to another , yet no tut showing how to do it

thanks I will keep looking if you fine something let me know

DuctTapedGoat · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:53:15 AM »

All I'm finding requires a service mode dongle. -_-

Rodent · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2011, 10:05:07 AM »

Ebay has a replacement board, that you can buy that is replaceable as long as firmware matches, the board numbers BMD-001 A1, A2,A3,A4

Like I said I have tried another board everything worked , except reading the disk, so that tells me that it can be changed if you buy the right board with out having to change the chip or key. Sony says that it can just be put in and replaced , whether that is true , I will have to find out other then that you have a Epromm chip and a bmg chip that has to go on the board doesnt look that hard . just time and patients

make sence>?

Rodent · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2011, 07:08:36 AM »

Quote from: DuctTapedGoat on March 28, 2011, 03:37:31 AM

The logic board is "married" (tech term) to your PS3s mainboard.

There's a way to remarry a logic board to your mainboard - I haven't done it, but there's plenty of people who have. I can try and do some Google-fu and find something, but your best bet is to either find a tut or find someone who's done it who will make a tut for you.

Best answer I have found :As long as the console is in the same family ie. CECH-xxxxA or something like that It should plug and play.

DuctTapedGoat · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2011, 01:52:46 PM »

[Console Serial Number] + [Main circuit board ID] + [BD Drive] + [WLAN board (MAC address)] are bound together (HW-ID) in SCEI Server
PS3 service mode Jig set-up manual.pdf (page 22)

In a random comment on the interwebs.
This is what I'm going to begin looking into when I get back in 30 mins.

Rodent · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2011, 06:36:52 PM »

thanks , will find out if it works soon, either going to change the chips out to the board I have on the 20gb ps3 i had or wait to get this board from this guy and see if i can just pop it in and plug and play. has same numbers on board BMD-001 A3

Also what I read is that It can not be changed with service mode jig if it is past the firmware 3.55 and mine is 3.60.

Thanks for helping maybe together we can help others with the same problems.

DuctTapedGoat · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2011, 04:48:47 PM »

3.55 jigs are a thorn in my side,

Rodent · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:27:25 PM »

Ok, So I bought a new controller /logic board for my ps3 blu-ray drive. numbers matching and plug it in and everything works now except reads the disk, accepts the disk loads up and then no sign of game play on the dashboard. so I have been searching all over the internet there is a way to flash the firmware as long as its below 3.56 on the ps3. There for I am on to the next step replacing the nano chip or BGA chip as I found a video on you tube. thanks for all your help and hope this helps others and thanks to the guy in the video for showing us an easy way to change the chip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zh46cR6k3s

Hope this helps anyone with this problem. when I get the right paste here I will be attemping this myself and will let you know if I suceeded or failed wish me luck!

Things needed to do this below!
1. Heat Gun
2. Soldering Iron
3. Solder Paste (Sn 63/Pb 37)
4. Flux
5. Isopropyly Alcohol
6. Desoldering Braid

I also been told to dab the braid not roll it around like in the video . just a note!

DuctTapedGoat · « **Reply #10 on:** April 15, 2011, 02:51:06 AM »

Nice - so just pull that chip off your old board and drop it into the new logic board? Helluva lot faster than waiting for a 3.56 or god forbid, 3.60 downgraders.

Rodent · « **Reply #11 on:** April 15, 2011, 05:44:27 AM »

Quote from: DuctTapedGoat on April 15, 2011, 02:51:06 AM

Nice - so just pull that chip off your old board and drop it into the new logic board? Helluva lot faster than waiting for a 3.56 or god forbid, 3.60 downgraders.

Thats what it says, hopefully will test it out today!
This will remarry the blu-ray to the motherboard worked great!

Special thanks to FOOKZ, [HOP] and Crazy-modder for awsering some questions, so they really helped me out!
well I didnt get it on the first or second try, but Yes!!!!!!

THIS IS A SUCESSS!!!!!!

1TONpete · « **Reply #12 on:** April 15, 2011, 01:25:45 PM »

SWEET. now i just gotta find a new drive.

DuctTapedGoat · « **Reply #13 on:** April 15, 2011, 03:05:25 PM »

Very nice! What was it that kept it from working the first or second time?

Rodent · « **Reply #14 on:** April 15, 2011, 03:11:43 PM »

its not as easy as it looks it took time trying to get the chip to solder up, took me a few tries to get it to solder up to the board. everthing else was easy getting the chip off both boards and reballing it like the video showed, and just trying to get it to solder up to the board was the hardest part

FOOKz™ · « **Reply #15 on:** April 15, 2011, 04:35:30 PM »

I'm glad we could help, sometimes the chip can't handle high heat. Temperature is critical~remember that.

Rodent · « **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:32:41 PM »

Quote from: FOOKz™ on April 15, 2011, 04:35:30 PM

I'm glad we could help, sometimes the chip can't handle high heat. Temperature is critical~remember that.

Thats true, I guess I should of mentioned that, becuase in the video on you tube someone asked what temperature did they set the heat gun at , He mentioned 300 degrees C which is around 570 Degrees F. I did it around 500 and I think thats what could of been the problem of getting it to solder to the board or type of solder I was using.

Thanks again everyone!

[HoP] · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:48:48 PM »

congrats!

having confidence in your skills will take you far!

Rodent · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2011, 04:05:15 PM »

Quote from: [HoP] on April 16, 2011, 02:48:48 PM

congrats!

having confidence in your skills will take you far!

WOW! thanks that means alot, for my first time, it took a few tries, I just knew I could get It resolved

Thanks again for your help!

laytonanthony · « **Reply #19 on:** December 29, 2011, 09:12:28 AM »

i have a broken bmd-001 logic board and have a spare bmd-002. looks different asit hasmore chips on. will this process work if i swap the chip over or does it have to bee the same model logic board?

Rodent · « **Reply #20 on:** December 29, 2011, 10:17:11 AM »

Quote from: laytonanthony on December 29, 2011, 09:12:28 AM

i have a broken bmd-001 logic board and have a spare bmd-002. looks different asit hasmore chips on. will this process work if i swap the chip over or does it have to bee the same model logic board?

Yes this will work , the bga chip is matched to the motherboard , I had to use a different board other then the one i bought. due to i made a few mistakes due to it was my first time doing it.

Best suggestion I got , take your time be patient that is the best advice i can give good luck let me know how it turns out.

laytonanthony · « **Reply #21 on:** December 29, 2011, 10:41:57 AM »

origionally the normal drive stopped reading disks. would eject and take in games but nothing happend.not even a spin. so i plugged a new drive in and again it ejected and took the discs and i could here it trying to spin up but obviously wouldnt read the disk.
i have managed to remove the origional chip and place it on the new logic board but i litertally get nothing. wont even take the disk.
i took my time and lined it up. you think its due to the chip not being seated properly? how may attempts did it take you?

Rodent · « **Reply #22 on:** December 29, 2011, 10:52:22 AM »

It took me 3 tries to get it seated properly , i had the same issues that your having tried and tried it and finally got it working, make sure that the chip is in the right location meaning that it goes on the same way it came off and put a little pressure down on the chip while heating it up will help with seating the chip to make a better connections light pressure and heat at same time you dont want it to move around due to it will bridged together , you will get it just be patient

1TONpete · « **Reply #23 on:** December 29, 2011, 12:56:28 PM »

Quote from: laytonanthony on December 29, 2011, 09:12:28 AM

i have a broken bmd-001 logic board and have a spare bmd-002. looks different asit hasmore chips on. will this process work if i swap the chip over or does it have to bee the same model logic board?

They have to be the same series. IE single laser or dual. dual laser control boards need both chips.
bmd-002 is for launch 20/60gb machines.
Sorry I missed this guys.

Rodent · « **Reply #24 on:** December 29, 2011, 01:08:57 PM »

I know that when i did this I had bought the same board and messed the Traces up trying to do it on the replacement board after i messed the traces up and I already spent $40 dollars on the board I couldnt afford another board at the time. I had a logic board that was out of a 20gb PS3 boards looked nothing alike, I swapped the BGA and took my 3rd and final try and when I pluged the different logic board from the 20 gb in with the BGA from the 40 gb drive two different consoles , two different logic boards and got the BGA re attached it worked fine would play blu-ray movies , played black ops the game and played regular cd's and music cds .. this has been proven. not just by me but buy a few others that i have seen since i done this... maybe just luck . maybe its true what 1TONpete says also I havent done enough of them myself to prove it works 100% I just know that what i did worked and sold the PS3 10 minutes later for a good amout of money working.

1TONpete · « **Reply #25 on:** December 29, 2011, 01:27:29 PM »

Maybe it is I who stands corrected.

You have more experience w bga swaps than me. But I still think my point is valid. I dont think you can swap from dual to single or maybe the other way around. The boards can be different just saying , I think they have to be either dual or single.
Either way the bmd-001 and the 002 are swapable so it should be working.

Rodent · « **Reply #26 on:** December 29, 2011, 01:31:02 PM »

it might be different with the backwards compatible PS3's This is something I would like to find some more information on then we both would know what is the right thing todo you logic makes alot of sence so i cant argue with you about that...

laytonanthony · « **Reply #27 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:18:43 PM »

hey guys still not had another go yet. my origional board is a 001 and tried swapping onto a 002. now which is the single layer and which is the dual? i have now ordered a 001 replacement board.is it just the 1 chip i need to resolder or is ther another? thanks

reason why i havent had chance is because ive been seting up my new 55" samsung LED 3D TV...and yeh its the 8000 model

muhahahaha!

Rodent · « **Reply #28 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:31:38 PM »

what PS3 is this out of? that could tell us more about what it is, maybe the code off the back of the PS3 will tell us what kind it is maybe a build date the PS3 was made ,

1TONpete · « **Reply #29 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:05:56 PM »

found the problem...
his needs both chips.
Rodent what was yours out of?

Rodent · « **Reply #30 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:16:35 PM »

Quote from: 1TONpete on December 30, 2011, 07:05:56 PM

found the problem...
his needs both chips.
Rodent what was yours out of?

That is the style board i had but i didnt have to change the small chip just the bga... I had a BMD-001 and replaced it with a BMD-002 different style board then one shown there

the bmd-001 has A 3 on the board and i believe the other board i replaced it with was a bmd-002 B 2 or A 1 or A 2 was a while back when i posted this so dont remember what the board was if i can find a pic of what the board looked like I will post pic. they looked nothing a like the boards didnt and I just replaced the BGA nothing else

laytonanthony · « **Reply #31 on:** December 31, 2011, 07:28:20 AM »

The PS£ is a CECHCO3 Date Code 7B Serial:-02-27430420-5895771
The logic board is a BMD-001 1-871-575-24

This help? Do i need to remove both chips as described above?

Rodent · « **Reply #32 on:** December 31, 2011, 10:39:24 AM »

Quote from: laytonanthony on December 31, 2011, 07:28:20 AM

The PS£ is a CECHCO3 Date Code 7B Serial:-02-27430420-5895771
The logic board is a BMD-001 1-871-575-24

This help? Do i need to remove both chips as described above?

1TONpete knows when they changed certain logic boards. so wait to you hear back from him before changing the smaller chip.

laytonanthony · « **Reply #33 on:** January 04, 2012, 10:15:02 AM »

managed to swap chips over to a new board and now it takes and ejects disks. still no show up in the dashhboard tho. My origional board was a BMD-001 ... 1-871-575-24 A(2) and i put its chip onto this board BMD-001 ..1-871-575-24 A (3)
all i need to no now is that do i need to put the other chip onto the new board as posted above?

thanks guys

Rodent · « **Reply #34 on:** January 04, 2012, 10:18:05 AM »

sounds like you dont have the bga fulliy connected... i would open the top up and see if the laser is working... then we can see if you have to change the other chip

laytonanthony · « **Reply #35 on:** January 04, 2012, 10:47:56 AM »

ok soldered the other chip on anyway.yeh took lid off..no laser at all. will it still show a laser with no disk in it?

Rodent · « **Reply #36 on:** January 04, 2012, 10:57:18 AM »

Quote from: laytonanthony on January 04, 2012, 10:47:56 AM

ok soldered the other chip on anyway.yeh took lid off..no laser at all. will it still show a laser with no disk in it?

If the dvd drive is powered up and the disk goes in , and it should show some laser activity. meaning it should light up either when you boot the PS3 or when you engage the disk .. if thats doesnt work then I would say either you dont have the bga fully in tacted on the board or last resort you need to change the other chip .

I see 1TONpete hasn't replied yet with dates on which has single or dual lasers . he told me the other day I forgot what it was..

laytonanthony · « **Reply #37 on:** January 04, 2012, 11:34:23 AM »

ok swapped BOTH chips now and i have no laser. it now takes and ejects but doesnt spin up and no sign of any laser what so ever..looks like its the BGA chip. just going to have to try again lol! ill keep you posted pal.

Rodent · « **Reply #38 on:** January 04, 2012, 11:45:43 AM »

maybe the laser just no good.. good luck hope you get it working

elyoyopr69 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 05, 2012, 11:51:00 PM »

Quote from: 1TONpete on December 30, 2011, 07:05:56 PM

found the problem...
his needs both chips.
Rodent what was yours out of?

nice work is work 100%

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