Author Topic: Working On Sort Of iWish Proto. (Read 12596 times)

TheZap · « **on:** February 12, 2009, 03:02:05 PM »

I want to make a psp phone, cuz my razor sux. all razors suck =.=,
I know I have to buy a mic, and few more things,
The major thing Im doing is reshaping the psp (faceplate),
A few things I need to do, I need to multiply the USB connections so the mic (ect) doesnt take up the only one in the psp, I dont know how to do that tho, I also need to connect a keypad, well i dont need to but it will be cool,
Its alot of stuff, but the supplies cost less then a new phone and a psp phone seems cool to me,
I have a spear psp, (so it wont hurt to test this out), It was bricked and I had no idea what bricking was when it happened so I bought a new one , now I have 2 psp, one to test on so I dont screw up on my new one, and one to use what I test,

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SN!P3R · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2009, 08:19:09 AM »

search psp phone on google, he used a haier cell phone. take out the UMD drive and put it there.

TheZap · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2009, 04:47:02 PM »

Quote from: SN!P3R on February 14, 2009, 08:19:09 AM

search psp phone on google, he used a haier cell phone. take out the UMD drive and put it there.

Hmm, Well, change of plan, Im basing it towards the famouse, never to come, iWish, Im keeping the original shape, but attempting to make it sort of like a sidekick, I want it to have sliding screen with a keypad under it, I need a pad that is skinny enough to fit, anyone want to help me find it?
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Alright I made my desighn, I still need to find the keypad, It doesnt have to be the one in the picture, as long as it has everyletter and number, can fit in my psp, (be helpful if it matched the color :P,

I still need help finding out how to multiply the amount of USB connections, I need to make or find a longer wire to connect the screen, the orange one that comes with the psp is too short to slide :P, I need a camera that goes with the 1000 and the real outcome will probibly wont exactly look like this preview, especially cuz im using a 1000 and the preview is a 2000 :P
( I do understand I have to reshape and create a new face plate so it can slide )
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Any Questions?

Jumbo · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2009, 06:26:56 PM »

Only way to make the screen connector "longer" is to hard wire it which only very experienced solder workers can do

Like This-

TheZap · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2009, 06:32:49 PM »

Well, I guess I wont hurt to try, and there is no other way, what do I have to lose :P Now all I need to do is to find the wires, one question, do I like cut some of the end of the orange to solder the wire and use that end so it can easily connect just like it did b4?

pspupgrade · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2009, 12:04:02 AM »

Quote from: TheZap on February 15, 2009, 06:32:49 PM

Well, I guess I wont hurt to try, and there is no other way, what do I have to lose :P Now all I need to do is to find the wires, one question, do I like cut some of the end of the orange to solder the wire and use that end so it can easily connect just like it did b4?

Yes, you need to be very experienced at soldering; those little points are very much close to each other. Folklord did it using magnet wire to solder.
But if you do manage to cut the connector and solder the points together, it should work. If you're looking for a bit of inspiration, take a look at Folk's PSP laptop project. There are some elements that are very much similar in both of your projects.

GhoSt · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2009, 12:37:30 AM »

no thats not true jumbo, you can make a pcb with 2 30pin 0.5mm fpc connectors and a ribbon cable like alein did on his plexi psp.

rceckspurt13 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2009, 03:06:34 AM »

Yeah thats probably the easiest way to go, getting a pre-made cable to act as an extension. Also the keypad off of a mobile phone like the envy may be a good choice. It has to be small to fit into a mobile phone. Whatever keypad you use will have to be reprogrammed to fit the requirements of the psp so keep that in mind. Also the envy keypad will match the black color.

TheZap · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2009, 07:33:59 AM »

Any Pictures or links to the other choice?
BTW, rceckspurt13 is this the keypad?

Is it too big or too small, or the right size?
( anywhere I can buy only the keypad?)
One more question, shold I leave the screen in the brace? I think I should take it out of the brace and place the keypad there, so it will be easier for me to create a slide, since the brace connects to the UMD area and the analog :P

rceckspurt13 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2009, 01:26:40 PM »

Yep thats the one I mentioned. It should be small enough to fit where the screen of the psp used to be. The whole phone itself is only about as wide as the screen. It should also be pretty slim. I'm not sure where you could get the keypad only but mabey you could find a envy with a broken LCD or somthing on eBay cheap. guess the brace would have to stay because it is responsible for holding the umd door closed and grounding various componants such as the analog. You could cut off the edges that actually held the LCD in place though. It will give you a place to mount the keypad that is off of the mobo a bit.

TheZap · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2009, 05:14:29 PM »

rceckspurt13
I can also use a Xbox 360 chatpad :P

Your really helpful man, thanks

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I think I should ask FolkLord for further advice though since his project is very similar

TheZap · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2009, 06:38:44 AM »

Now I must find a cheap Xbox chatpad =.=
Also, any cheap camera for the 1000?

ndru98 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:55:58 AM »

GO!Cam?
You can find used ones for about 40.
Also; dont double post; the edit button is there for a reason (;

TheZap · « **Reply #13 on:** February 18, 2009, 12:02:49 PM »

Alrights thanks

1 question bout that though, does it record sound?

Jumbo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:22:44 AM »

Quote from: GhoSt_Death on February 16, 2009, 12:37:30 AM

no thats not true jumbo, you can make a pcb with 2 30pin 0.5mm fpc connectors and a ribbon cable like alein did on his plexi psp.

The thing is that might not fit in the PSP unless he is making a bigger custom case...

Quote from: TheZap on February 18, 2009, 12:02:49 PM

Alrights thanks
1 question bout that though, does it record sound?

Yes it has a microphone to record sound
Robin made a video using one it looks like this-

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/MbjXJx0D0AU&hl=en&fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/MbjXJx0D0AU&hl=en&fs=1</a>

TheZap · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:36:53 AM »

Quote from: Jumbo on February 20, 2009, 08:22:44 AM

The thing is that might not fit in the PSP unless he is making a bigger custom case...
Yes it has a microphone to record sound
Robin made a video using one it looks like this-

Wow, thats actually good quality footage :P
Not so impressive bike skills tho.....

I might actuallynget it, (hopefully I dont

it up when I open it to put in the PSP,
about the screen, I guess I will take the easiest or cheapest way o.O

folklord36 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2009, 09:25:53 AM »

Got progress pics how far along are you? What do you plan to use as sliders? How do you plan to encase the LCD and protect it and have a nice finish on it keep in mind it needs to be completely sealed. And best way to extend ribbon is to just solder on a 30 pin .5 pitch connector to the end of the cable then buy a new FFC in.5 pitch 30 pins and plug into the LCD then into MOBO.

TheZap · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2009, 09:51:59 AM »

Quote from: folklord36 on February 21, 2009, 09:25:53 AM

Got progress pics how far along are you? What do you plan to use as sliders? How do you plan to encase the LCD and protect it and have a nice finish on it keep in mind it needs to be completely sealed.

I got no pics so far, Im planning to desighn the sliders myslelf, Ill take a look at the sidekick and see the desighn for its slide screen, I will have to probibly cut out some of a faceplate to creat the sliding part, and ill have to edit another faceplate to lower the elavation for where the keypad would be, so the screen wont completly stick out, just slightly, I will probibly have the wire coming out at the bottom tip of the sliding plate so it wont show at all,
Basicly Im going to need a small tool to cut out the pieces, a hot glue gun, a sander to smoothin out the mess, and some paint to replace what the sander left behind.

Quote from: folklord36 on February 21, 2009, 09:25:53 AM

And best way to extend ribbon is to just solder on a 30 pin .5 pitch connector to the end of the cable then buy a new FFC in.5 pitch 30 pins and plug into the LCD then into MOBO.

Any idea where I can buy this, or can I just easily find it on google, one more question, how much is the price usually around.

folklord36 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2009, 10:00:27 AM »

Idk google it I scrapped mine from a sony DVD drive.

TheZap · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2009, 10:21:35 AM »

O.. I guess google is my only choice, unless I have one without even knowing
What about the smaller ribbon connected to it, is that important?

rgarjr · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2009, 10:24:16 AM »

Woahzer.. Some intense fine soldering there on the ribbon cable.

TheZap · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2009, 10:53:32 AM »

Any One Got A Tut On Making An Internal Camera, I searched it up, but the only tut I found had broken pictures, Maybe I should use the camera on my moms broken razor... Much smaller... Hmmm, or maybe her broken blackberry, I will just have to make them able to go on my psp, which I have no idea how

Jumbo · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:00:24 AM »

Quote from: TheZap on February 21, 2009, 10:53:32 AM

Any One Got A Tut On Making An Internal Camera, I searched it up, but the only tut I found had broken pictures, Maybe I should use the camera on my moms broken razor... Much smaller... Hmmm, or maybe her broken blackberry, I will just have to make them able to go on my psp, which I have no idea how

its not able to use them.. The chotto is made specifically for the psp which is why you have to use it. There was a tut but its easy, just open it then solder to the mobo USB cable and if you still want to use the USB solder a switch to the Data +

TheZap · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:06:53 AM »

Quote from: Jumbo on February 21, 2009, 11:00:24 AM

its not able to use them.. The chotto is made specifically for the psp which is why you have to use it. There was a tut but its easy, just open it then solder to the mobo USB cable and if you still want to use the USB solder a switch to the Data +

EDIT: so we can use the mic of a phone but not the camera.. bummer...

PhenomenalDesigns · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:25:54 AM »

Quote from: TheZap on February 21, 2009, 11:06:53 AM

so we can use the speaker of a phone but not the camera.. bummer...

Theoritacally, if you can identify the pins on the camera, you could use another camera from a phone

Also you cant always use the speaker of a phone, only speakers under 1W, and its MUCH better to have them at 8 Ohms, if not it will sound weird (Im pretty sure the original speakers are 8ohms too)

TheZap · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:29:15 AM »

Quote from: PhenomenalDesigns on February 21, 2009, 11:25:54 AM

Theoritacally, if you can identify the pins on the camera, you could use another camera from a phone

Also you cant always use the speaker of a phone, only speakers under 1W, and its MUCH better to have them at 8 Ohms, if not it will sound weird (Im pretty sure the original speakers are 8ohms too)

Woops, I ment to say mic, I rather have the psp speakers then the phone, it would sound wierd

Well, b4 I open my moms broken blackberry, you think its possible to use its camera?

folklord36 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:35:14 AM »

Nope not unless you have a logic analyzer and a couple degrees in engineering. If you could just use any camera why would we all be spending 60 bucks and waiting 2 weeks for go cam to ship from over seas.

TheZap · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:42:38 AM »

for the fun of it?

who knows, maybe some1 will figure it out one day..
Ill probibly open up the phone for the mic and viberating motor anyways.. Might as well check what the camera look like from the inside

Well, guys, thanks for all your info so far, I hope all this can come up together

rceckspurt13 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2009, 08:32:58 PM »

you could also use the leds out of the blackberry. the ones that light the lcd and the keyboard.

and yes, the small ribbon is important to the function of the psp. it supplys the power for the backlight so that you can even see the lcd.

Quote from: Jumbo on February 21, 2009, 11:00:24 AM

its not able to use them.. The chotto is made specifically for the psp which is why you have to use it. There was a tut but its easy, just open it then solder to the mobo USB cable and if you still want to use the USB solder a switch to the Data +

That is correct, but doing it the way of the tut on acidmods requires the removal of the umd drive. there is a way to do it without removing it, but it requires mounting the camera and the usb plug from it in the back near the wifi board. its alot of work. it also requires disassembling the chotto which is a real pain. dont attempt it unless your confident with your skills.

PhenomenalDesigns · « **Reply #29 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:26:57 AM »

Quote from: TheZap on February 21, 2009, 11:29:15 AM

Woops, I ment to say mic, I rather have the psp speakers then the phone, it would sound wierd
Well, b4 I open my moms broken blackberry, you think its possible to use its camera?

With the mic, their usually only 2 pins, im not entirely sure but Ive seen it done before

With the camera, by law, the companys have to make datasheets of the product (Dad told me) and that they will show every component they have, their pins etc

Theoritacally if you can match the pins, and it has the same specifications, and you are good in programming to place some kind of PIC and make it think its a go cam, it can be done. But to be honest, its easier just to buy a gocam and disasemble it. Even i have one though that I bought ages ago, very rarely use it though so I might dissasemble it for fun and install it (Nobody ever buys them though)

Also about the motor, f00F00 did it a while ago, but it was more or a proof of concept, he had a motherboard, screen and breadboard with a circuit on it, never installed it/finished it into a psp though. But now thanks to the 2n2222 transistor, you can connect a vibrator to it, although make sure you pick one that turns on with about 3v or have their max near 4v

TheZap · « **Reply #30 on:** February 22, 2009, 09:41:57 AM »

Quote from: PhenomenalDesigns on February 22, 2009, 03:26:57 AM

With the mic, their usually only 2 pins, im not entirely sure but Ive seen it done before

With the camera, by law, the companys have to make datasheets of the product (Dad told me) and that they will show every component they have, their pins etc

Theoritacally if you can match the pins, and it has the same specifications, and you are good in programming to place some kind of PIC and make it think its a go cam, it can be done. But to be honest, its easier just to buy a gocam and disasemble it. Even i have one though that I bought ages ago, very rarely use it though so I might dissasemble it for fun and install it (Nobody ever buys them though)

Also about the motor, f00F00 did it a while ago, but it was more or a proof of concept, he had a motherboard, screen and breadboard with a circuit on it, never installed it/finished it into a psp though. But now thanks to the 2n2222 transistor, you can connect a vibrator to it, although make sure you pick one that turns on with about 3v or have their max near 4v

Aw man.. I dont want to buy a GoCam.. to much money fro me to risk...
and its a little too big for what Im looking for.. =.=, o well, I guess I dont need a camera...

rceckspurt13 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 22, 2009, 09:59:52 AM »

Like I said, the cam can be installed inside while retaining the umd drive. Then the size of it dosent really matter. But I understand why you wouldent want it sticking off the top.

You can get one of those tiny vibrators at radioshack for $3.99 a piece. They are 3 volt.
The transistors can also be found there. You can get a pack of 15 for a dollar somthing that contains 2, 2n2222 transistors.

TheZap · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2009, 01:46:52 PM »

Once again, thanks for the advice.. Im kind of slow

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New problem
I was playing my PSP in class ( dont ask ) and i just noticed a problem with my idea, well 1 prob is some1 is trying to steal my plans =.=, but thats not important now, the real important thing is that the screen is a little to big

The red line is about the size of the screen, I remembered that when I opened the PSP up that the buttons for Home, volume, ect were on top of the screen, so I have to move those with it and extend that as well, the small ribbon will be a bit twisted unless I use wires for that I guess... but the select button goes threw then I noticed that if I were to cut it from the select and home button, It would go threw the [] and -> button

A little problem here, so Im going to have to find away to redisighn that I guess..
Until that, I guess this will; be held back a little more =.=
Only few S#!*** solution for now, but also harder.. I have to either reshape the home, and select buttons, or make the whole top slide, but then I will have to extend everything o.o, although that will look a little cool, but maybe looks better if the screen only slides..

folklord36 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2009, 03:49:00 PM »

Your idea? LOL you took the idea from a picture you saw and someone else has already started to build one way before you were ever even around but they abandoned it so no one is trying to steal the idea that is not yours. This is no there near as big of a obstacle as the other fabrication IF you are capable of getting the case made and all then moving buttons shouldn't be a problem at all for you.

TheZap · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:14:27 PM »

Quote from: folklord36 on February 23, 2009, 03:49:00 PM

Your idea? LOL you took the idea from a picture you saw and someone else has already started to build one way before you were ever even around but they abandoned it so no one is trying to steal the idea that is not yours. This is no there near as big of a obstacle as the other fabrication IF you are capable of getting the case made and all then moving buttons shouldn't be a problem at all for you.

Sorry, got a bit over my head again, it happens...
But the way they planned it could of been a bit different, I think... I want to finish this b4 any1 else does it :P, if I actually finish that actually gives me something, right?
Im going to try not to give up easily, especially the money Im putting in this... It may not seem alot to you, but its a lot to me :P And Especially because I dont want to be the type of person that says Im going to do something and doesnt. I dont want to ask all these quetions and have no point to it, this would of been a huge waist of time :P
Currently, Im here asking all my friends for any tech they arent using, finnaly, I got a friend who is giving me a sliding phone, finnaly all my begging came threw :P

Im also guessing that the people who created the iWish were probibly having fun photoshoping, exactly why its called the iWish...
So, you know where I can find any of the previous attempts, so I can see where they left off?
Ill try to create the faceplate once I get the phone, he better not be lieing :P

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Author Topic: Working On Sort Of iWish Proto. (Read 12596 times)