Please help support the site by donating at the link below.https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=8ZRU34U47BESW
one Q tho: if he (geohot) knew he that this could cause piracy then why did he spend time just to patch lv2 to not run pirated games? i mean is like turning a fully automatic weapon in a way that it can only shoot in semi. but not all gun owners are capable of chaning it back, like a gunsmith,
its like sharing information, just because we know how a gun works does not mean that they should not be made, if you know what i mean?
You have abused the judicial system in an attempt to censor information about how your products work.Your suppression of this information is motivated by corporate greed and the desire for complete control over the actions of individuals who purchase and use your products, at least when those actions threaten to undermine the corrupt stranglehold you seek to maintain over copywrong, oops, "copyright".
bashing guys like geohot and other guys that dissreguard the law in some shape or form just for the pure pleasure of hacking is not right.
Most people, I affectionately call sheeople , who dont write any code, don't support him and bad mouth him. Usually the facts are lost on this bunch.
Im guessing the second group is making the assumption that some one else will step up and release code for them. But the reality is its still about 3% of the population who CAN reverse tech . There has been no giant explosion of people who can do this, more its been an explosion of people who can being willing to take credit for their work.
This topic really frustrates me. I think I could spend the entire day disproving each of your arguments line by line. And whats worse is the only reason you dont know is you didnt bother to ask. 1. What are Geohots true accomplishments?2. What contests has he won? 3. What national publications have recognized him?4. What did Geohot say his feelings on piracy are? 5. How can geohot be responsible for others actions.
I can't justify copy/pasting the facts from google here. When and if you guys do some research you will understand that nearly every thing said in this thread is inaccurate. Thanks chives for taking the time to cover some of it in depth. PS what are you working on lately?
Ive noticed a trend. Any one who has written and released any thing, for any thing supports geohot to some varying degree. They know more of the facts of how this when down and understand that something so simple as painting your case could be impacted by this.
sure I jailbreak my iphone, but I could live without it.there has never been a large number of people with the ability to do what some people can do (or claim to be able to do), but I have no pity for people who bring things on themselves. everyone knows what 'the scene' is like, it's a bunch of ungrateful overly demanding impatient douchebags who just want more, want it right now, and want it for free.
That's every scene!!!
So basically, this has just concluded with the result i expected. No one won, which means we lost a chance to enforce our rights. I honestly dont blame him for how this was handled. He asked for donations so he could fight our fight properly. Not so he could hack things. Thats the difference.
"everyone knows what 'the scene' is like, it's a bunch of ungrateful overly demanding impatient douchebags who just want more, want it right now, and want it for free."+ and then trash talks them not knowing half the facts, or acting oblivious to them.
Now answer 1 2 and 3 about your self. Point and case eh?
Im happy to debate informed opinions. I am not going to sit and make charts proving what is common sense that Piracy does not raise costs of games. Greed makes them stay at 60 $ . etc
cheers to everyone who took part in this discussion, it may not look like it, but for the most part we all share similar values on the topic and that is that piracy is bad and hurts the industry we love. ...hopefully some of this discussion (on or off topic) will land on the ears of the youth in the world, and they can see the implications that a court case like this can have on your everyday life, whether good or bad it is hard to see the whole picture, but please try. AND for gods sake pay attention in history class, it is important, and is a great forcaster for cases like these. If you do not understand history we are bound to repeat it, and crap like this will not just float down river like it seems to have in this case... there is more crap coming and real decisions will still have to be made.
@lordnico sadly some of us do realize this was a win for geohot , not really for us. Its nothing to hold against him, but this would have been better for freedom if he had had more support to win this instead of walk away from it. But that said im really thankful he was able to walk away from it he has to much potential to waste like this.
I think over all this was a decent outcome as no new precedence has been set one way or the other, status quo ante. I don't blame him for settling for a permanent injunction and basically getting off scot-free. he didn't ask for donations to "fight 'our' fight properly" he asked for it so he didn't have to incur the full expense of fighting his battle. yes, that's right, he got himself into the mess and no one asked him to stand up and make the fight for a legal precedence. How do the sayings go? oh that's right: 'if you're not willing to do the time, don't do the crime' and 'take personal responsibility for your own actions'...
God Bless Anonymous.They give me hope, there have good intentions, but have done wrong things.They are masters of Computing and One day I hope they hack the world with there endless intelligence unless they have a relation with the CIA or Illuminati :Censored: ING stop playing hacking games you 12yr old . They make me think that there some characters from the Matrix.
can anyone explain what his "permanent injunction" geohot has ? does this mean he cant touch or hack any of their products? lol well atleast he cant gave a ego for the ngp. lol
A bandaide like hazer brought up, with gun control and the background check for a handgun, unfortanately a background check does not keep guns out of criminals hands. Second hand sales from citizens to citizen are not regulated therefore guns and crime will not suffer becuase of said check. In reality the background check just makes the black and second hand markets more lucritive. There is little parrallel to be drawn from this to the topic on hand, unless you look at the outcome and what kind of bandaide is produced by this court case... whatever it is, i can garunteed a court produced bandaide will make things worse, and you will see the black market become more lucrative. It is said you cannot change human behavior by making laws in a free society, history shows this over and over again. We need surgery not bandaides.