Author Topic: New 360 owner - some questions about running unsigned code? (Read 13029 times)

Johan1973 · « **on:** February 02, 2013, 03:09:01 AM »

After modding controllers for a while, I finally took the plunge and bought an xbox 360 slim. I have been searching online, but not really found any clear information. What do I need to be able to run unsigned code such as emulators and backups on the 360 slim?

Gizmo613 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2013, 04:43:49 AM »

What dash board are you on? Dash 15574 or higher requires the tx dgx to obtain the CPU key. Regardless, you'll need a Nand reader like the Nand x or jr programmer. And also you'll need a cpld glitch board (matrix glitcher, coolrunner rev c ) there are plenty more options. I just woke up from 4 hours of sleep, can't really think.

Modded Matt · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2013, 07:44:38 AM »

we need a new up to date RGH tutorial.

Gizmo613 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2013, 07:47:46 AM »

i believe rodent is working on that

Johan1973 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 02, 2013, 08:50:13 AM »

I dont know yet, I have just ordered the console, dont have it in my hands yet and I wanted to start doing research

Rodent · « **Reply #5 on:** February 02, 2013, 05:46:35 PM »

New Coronas you have to see what version you have , I have not done one yet but from everything i been reading there a pain, but i will get things updated soon.

you will need to purchase a DGX and a J-runner programmer USB cable to read the Montior Com that much i know of at right now there are like 4 diferent Versions of the Corona , also The 4GB Verison of the Corona Can not be DUAL NAND at this time.

DGX is used For Retrieving the Dvd key on dashboards From 15574 and UP... they have not come out with the one for Phat consoles yet but is in the process,

you can download the J-runner it is on V-286 at this time

Quote from: Modded Matt on February 02, 2013, 07:44:38 AM

we need a new up to date RGH tutorial.

your wish is my command
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,42585.msg318771/topicseen.html#new

Johan1973 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2013, 02:24:20 PM »

My Slim 250GB HD version most likely has Philips-LiteOn DG-16D4S if I am to believe this guide; http://www.xbox-scene.com/versions-xbox360-dvd-model.php

I am looking to find the the dashboard version, I updated the machine, might have been a bad idea.

At the moment, if I could find a way to make it not ask for the discs when the games are installed on the HD, I would be overjoyed.

Rodent · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2013, 02:40:32 PM »

Ok the only way to tell the dashboard version is to power it up and go to system, console settings , then go to System Info. this will give you the dashboard your on should look like this
System
[smg id=2921]
Console Settings
[smg id=2922]
System Info
[smg id=2924]

Then you can rgh it and then add games to the hdd with out using a disk using this link to read about how to rgh the tutorial i just made
https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,42585.msg318771/topicseen.html#new

If you can give me the MFR date I probably can tell you which Motherboard you have also being that after AUG 17, 2011 i believe it was is when the Corona motherobards were starting to be made and finishing off the trinity motherboards

Johan1973 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2013, 03:09:14 PM »

Current dashboard is; 2.0.16202.0 Manufacture date is: 2012-11-05

Rodent · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2013, 03:13:57 PM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 05, 2013, 03:09:14 PM

Current dashboard is; 2.0.16202.0 Manufacture date is: 2012-11-05

Ok so it is a Corona mother board you are going to need a DGX to get the cpu key and you will need a few other things once you open the console as the diagrams show on the RGH Reset glitch hack the types of motherboards since they make 4 different versions. to beable to do this hack.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2013, 07:11:26 PM »

Ok. I received it today, so I am not going to crack it up yet, I want to run it a while to make sure I have not got a "bad egg".

Is it possible to install mod like this and have it so you can disable it and use the console online?

(many questions, new to consoles in general).

Rodent · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2013, 07:14:12 PM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 05, 2013, 07:11:26 PM

Ok. I received it today, so I am not going to crack it up yet, I want to run it a while to make sure I have not got a "bad egg".

Is it possible to install mod like this and have it so you can disable it and use the console online?

(many questions, new to consoles in general).

you have to take the console apart , you could dual nand it if possible idk on the new corona's yet only some you can dual nand the 4gb you can not dual nand at this time. then you could rgh one nand and still play on xbl with the orignal nand

Johan1973 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2013, 04:02:45 AM »

That sounds good, really need to take it apart at some point to find out whats inside. Will give it a while to run to make sure everything is working and I dont break warranty for nothing.
The soldering I can do, it is small, and I have no problems with that. Been fiddling with such things for quite a while now. It just takes great care and patience, and good tools for the job. And your guide is showing most of what needs to be done. What would be a good place to get the mod parts I need?
DGX + Jungle Flasher? Anything more? Dual nand require an additional mod?

Phantom · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2013, 04:52:41 AM »

Check this topic to see which version Corona you have: https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,42450.msg317940.html#msg317940

Dual NAND requires another modchip, there are a few you can get, TX DemoN is good. You can only have a dual NAND on consoles with a 16MB NAND (the ones without the 4GB module).

Jungle flasher is used to flash your DVD drive, which isnt really needed if you RGH your console.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2013, 08:50:50 AM »

Thank you for the info. I do not think I have a 4GB module in mine. At least it was not listed as such when I bought it. But I will see when I crack it open.

If dual nand is a sure thing to be able to use the console online, then that is what I need to get. Just need a good way to switch between them I suppose.

Gizmo613 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2013, 08:58:02 AM »

Grab a tx demon and cr3 pro ultimate kit. The cr3 pro comes with the jr programmer and all qsb to make glitch the console easier. With the exception of the 4gb nand corona, it needs a separate qsb piece and no tx demon is compatible. We will know more once you open the console. Then we can get you a better idea of what's is to be needed.

Tx demon comes with 2 option to switch between nands. Either use the sync button or use the external switcher which will be supplied and installed in the back of the console.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 09, 2013, 02:20:51 AM »

I have been looking at the xK3Y which seems to be able to do exactly what I want, use images mounted on an external harddrive. Seems to work with all xbox versions as well, except it is likely that I need another mod chip in order to rad the cpu key from the drive in the particular model of slim machine I have.

Any thoughts and impressions on this device? Is it completely invisible to live (meaning, it only see it as a regular drive)?

Gizmo613 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:49:26 AM »

Drive emulation its one way to go but only for game backup play. No emulator like you wanted. Also it is not completely invisible. Xbox live can still see it, although not many have been banned.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2013, 12:21:08 PM »

As I understood it, I will need a RGH modchip just to get the key on the drive I most likely I have, so I guess that would mean emulation as well. Because if I have to get that, I will have it permanently installed. And drive emulation would be a good and easy way for me to keep backups of my discs.

Just wish it was 100% stealth..

Rodent · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2013, 03:05:50 PM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 09, 2013, 12:21:08 PM

As I understood it, I will need a RGH modchip just to get the key on the drive I most likely I have, so I guess that would mean emulation as well. Because if I have to get that, I will have it permanently installed. And drive emulation would be a good and easy way for me to keep backups of my discs.

Just wish it was 100% stealth..

you can get the key off the dvd drive no mod chip needed to get the dvd key. you can just hook it up to jungle flasher and follow the jungle flasher tutorial to get the dvd key .

only thing RGHing does is mod it like a jtag and gives you the cpu and dvd key if the dvd was missing. and you need the cpu key to RGH the console. which will need a DGX to get the key off the Slim Xbox 360 on dashboards 15574 and higher.. and to rgh the console you would need to add a coolrunner or Matirx glitcher chip.

Jungle Flasher is use to get the dvd key from the dvd drive with some tools required

J-runner is used to Jtag or Rgh a console with certian tools needed to do this.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 10, 2013, 11:02:15 AM »

Ok, thank you for that explanation. Looks like I will just focus on running xbox software with drive emulation to not have to mess with the discs.

Unfortunately I had a slip accident when opening the console to find out exactly which drive I had, when taking away the side plastic covers, and this nicked the thinn plastic wire pcb to the eject touch button, so I have no way other than the software way to open and close it. Looking for spareparts or possible replacement. Will contact the company where I bought it tomorrow.

Rodent · « **Reply #21 on:** February 10, 2013, 01:45:54 PM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 10, 2013, 11:02:15 AM

Ok, thank you for that explanation. Looks like I will just focus on running xbox software with drive emulation to not have to mess with the discs.

Unfortunately I had a slip accident when opening the console to find out exactly which drive I had, when taking away the side plastic covers, and this nicked the thinn plastic wire pcb to the eject touch button, so I have no way other than the software way to open and close it. Looking for spareparts or possible replacement. Will contact the company where I bought it tomorrow.

here to manually open the dvd drive
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/disc-drive/manually-eject-disc

also if you torn the ribbon that powers the xbox or the eject button you can get a replacement on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Power-Switch-Ribbon-Flex-Cable-Part-for-all-Xbox-360-Slim-Console-Repair-/290754179264?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b24cb0c0&_uhb=1

Johan1973 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2013, 03:53:34 AM »

The manual ejection does not work either LOL. Only software works. I will send it in for service...
I could easily repair it or replace the part as you suggest, but with only a week into the warranty, I rather not do that. Better get it replaced. Maybe I will be lucky and get one with better drive for reading the keys

Rodent · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2013, 05:14:19 AM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 11, 2013, 03:53:34 AM

The manual ejection does not work either LOL. Only software works. I will send it in for service...
I could easily repair it or replace the part as you suggest, but with only a week into the warranty, I rather not do that. Better get it replaced. Maybe I will be lucky and get one with better drive for reading the keys

Seriously? It wouldn't Manually open? did you go thru the side of the case?

Yea i understand the point of sending it back if its under warranty.. but they might not replace it being that you tried to open the console.

good luck! Hopefully all goes well.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 12, 2013, 02:47:56 PM »

Yes, I can only try sending it back for replacement. We will see. Worst case scenario I fix it myself when it comes back. And if I have lost the warranty then, I will open it up fully and prepare for modding.

Yes, seriously, the manual ejection does NOT work. Very strange.

Only software ejection works. I am no longer sure it was my poking around that caused the fault.

Btw, which stickers on the console is the warranty seals? the one with pictogram at the back with the text "xbox 360"?

I know there is a sticker inside, but that can not be all?

Rodent · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2013, 03:41:03 PM »

If this one is broken they will not replace it , if this is removed they can tell. also when you open it there is another one covering the mounting holes that holds the top case on it. I need a better camera for close up , this looks nasty.

I find that hard to believe the manual open the dvd drive doesn't work , I work on these all the time. it open's from the side of the case not in the front of it.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:20:40 AM »

Thanks for the info Rodz. That sticker looks a bit scruffed on mine, as if something abrasive has been against it. Dont know if that will affect their judgment or not. I have not broken it, it is whole otherwise.

As far as I know, on normal dvd drives there is a switch on the inside of the hole that you press. But I can not feel any switch at all inside that hole. Maybe that is why it wont work.

Rodent · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:48:20 AM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 13, 2013, 06:20:40 AM

Thanks for the info Rodz. That sticker looks a bit scruffed on mine, as if something abrasive has been against it. Dont know if that will affect their judgment or not. I have not broken it, it is whole otherwise.

As far as I know, on normal dvd drives there is a switch on the inside of the hole that you press. But I can not feel any switch at all inside that hole. Maybe that is why it wont work.

First of all I gave you this link to show you how to open it manually
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/disc-drive/manually-eject-disc#8d27eedbee944d238390f2a3bac7c8b2

Second here is a pic remove the side cover on the same side the dvd drive is on, you will see a yellow ring around the hole , insert paper clip and push it thru the dvd drive will magically open up manually
[spoiler]PS. if you can't find the hole put some hair around it!!!

[/spoiler]

Johan1973 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 13, 2013, 10:06:47 AM »

Those are the instructions I have followed and that is what I used ( a paper clip), and it just wont open. No reaction at all.

Rodent · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2013, 10:42:55 AM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 13, 2013, 10:06:47 AM

Those are the instructions I have followed and that is what I used ( a paper clip), and it just wont open. No reaction at all.

Then i would say its messed up .

Johan1973 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:41:02 PM »

Most definetly it is messed up...

Thats why I am not sure that my scratches on the plastic to the eject button did anything (hard to see because very dark in there, and I just assumed I had cut a trace).

Well, my own fault, I should have found out more about the stickers, the procedure to take it apart etc, and I should NOT have done this work at 5AM int he morning without sleep. Complete brainfart on my part..

If they dont replace it, and wants me to pay for repairing it, I will ask they send it back, and I will take it apart, repair it myself, and then mod it asap.

UPDATE: They found the xbox to be faulty (my scratches did not cause it) and a new one is shipped to me today.

UPDATE 2013-02-21: Got the new console today, same manufacture date, and seems to be same drive. Not much to say at the moment other than that.

Rodent · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:12:39 AM »

Keep us updated also what type of dvd drive is it?

Johan1973 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2013, 09:29:00 AM »

DG-16D4S or DG-16D5S if I look, without opening it, most likely. I know the DG-16D5S is problematic as you need to use an RGH mod to obtain the key for it.

Gizmo613 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 25, 2013, 10:01:29 AM »

the dg-16d5s would also require a TX LTU pcb board.

Rodent · « **Reply #34 on:** February 25, 2013, 12:15:03 PM »

Quote from: Gizmo613 on February 25, 2013, 10:01:29 AM

the dg-16d5s would also require a TX LTU pcb board.

yea which is the 1175 drive i believe,

Johan1973 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 25, 2013, 08:52:58 PM »

are you talking about the matrix freedom 1175?

No, I found it now, it was the team xecutor version

Looks promising.

Ok, just to make sure I get it right. DGX is only for RGH, so that you can get the CPU and DVD key. Which you then use to get the right keys to the custom firmware of the TX LTU replacement board for the dvd. And that will allow me to boot unsigned code, and backups.

I dont know why, but I am also a bit stuck on the x3ky that allows you to mount isos and use from a harddrive through USB instead of having to use any discs at all. Mainly because of the convenience of not having to get up out of the couch to the tv just to switch which game I want to play.

Rodent · « **Reply #36 on:** February 26, 2013, 04:17:12 AM »

Quote from: Johan1973 on February 25, 2013, 08:52:58 PM

are you talking about the matrix freedom 1175?

No, I found it now, it was the team xecutor version

Looks promising.

Ok, just to make sure I get it right. DGX is only for RGH, so that you can get the CPU and DVD key. Which you then use to get the right keys to the custom firmware of the TX LTU replacement board for the dvd. And that will allow me to boot unsigned code, and backups.

I dont know why, but I am also a bit stuck on the x3ky that allows you to mount isos and use from a harddrive through USB instead of having to use any discs at all. Mainly because of the convenience of not having to get up out of the couch to the tv just to switch which game I want to play.

Yes the TX LTU Replacment board you will need for 1175 drive. The Dgx is used to get the CPU key. you will only use that to get the CPU key.

Once you get the cpu key you will have to remove the dgx and replace it with the TX Cool runner. you may need other boards also being this is a newer slim. Corona Motherboards there are 4 different types of boards so verify what you have before starting your Rgh process.

once you have the cpu key , J-runner will give you the dvd key so you can flash the New TX LTU replacement board.

Johan1973 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 26, 2013, 10:05:09 AM »

Quite a lot of boards to get and replace just to modify a single xbox. I have to think about it for a while. Might be worth it if I am going to mod more than one.

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Author Topic: New 360 owner - some questions about running unsigned code? (Read 13029 times)