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Title: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: coldpizza721 on May 14, 2008, 04:17:08 PM: Can someone let me know the exact 8pin pic used in this tutorial/kit : http://consolecustoms.net/auction/tutorials/360_dual_rapid_tutorial_new_8pin.pdf (http://consolecustoms.net/auction/tutorials/360_dual_rapid_tutorial_new_8pin.pdf)
Also if someone has the hex file for rapid fire can you please post it or send it to me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on May 14, 2008, 05:37:55 PM: thats a 555 timer
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: coldpizza721 on May 14, 2008, 06:00:48 PM: thanks, do you know a nice and cheap pic programmer i could use to program to this. Or atleast what i need to search for.

Also does anyone have the hex files for a rapid controller
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 14, 2008, 06:53:10 PM: is there anyway to connect the 555timer to the triggers without a pic programmer?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: coldpizza721 on May 14, 2008, 06:54:18 PM: do you even have to program these? from what im looking up it looks like on the pins there are triggers(input) and pulses(output) which to me seems like rapid fire.

But hey what do i know....Is this true , do they already come they way that you need them?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 14, 2008, 07:47:22 PM: I am pretty sure it isn't a regular 555 timer because in the tut it says it is a pic microcontroller and the timer by itself isn't working for me... :dntknw:

EDIT: the only tut I found after about an hour of looking is THis ONe (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=643928) but you need alot more parts and you sacrifice the rumble feature... :beg:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on May 14, 2008, 07:54:27 PM: Quote from: redryno1221 on May 14, 2008, 07:47:22 PM
I am pretty sure it isn't a regular 555 timer because in the tut it says it is a pic microcontroller and the timer by itself isn't working for me... :dntknw:

Nope no programming required it is a simple time pulsing trust me. we designed the first one with actual software. That being said if all you wanted is rapid fire on the trigger we could write a program for a 8 pin chip.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 14, 2008, 08:03:20 PM: Quote from: Cyberpyrot on May 14, 2008, 07:54:27 PM
Nope no programming required it is a simple time pulsing trust me. we designed the first one with actual software. That being said if all you wanted is rapid fire on the trigger we could write a program for a 8 pin chip.
so i have to program the 555 timers using a pic programmer...
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: coldpizza721 on May 14, 2008, 08:05:08 PM: wait im confused? so your saying that you dont need to program them becuase they give off a pulse, but your saying if i want a rapid controller you could program another 8pin pic?

like whats the differnce....if you dont need to program the 555 timer why would you buy another microcontroller that does need to be programmed
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 14, 2008, 08:08:25 PM: Quote from: coldpizza721 on May 14, 2008, 08:05:08 PM
wait im confused? so your saying that you dont need to program them becuase they give off a pulse, but your saying if i want a rapid controller you could program another 8pin pic?

like whats the differnce....if you dont need to program the 555 timer why would you buy another microcontroller that does need to be programmed
:whoosh: so (cyberpyrot) you'll write a program for an already programmed chip???

EDIT: sorry i'm a noob, i learned everything i know about electronics on the internet...
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on May 15, 2008, 03:40:36 PM: The 555 timer is a pre programmed chip which cannot be altered. People use this to do the trigger rapid fire with the help of a NPN transistor creating like a switch that opens and closes with each pulse of the 555 timer. I have created a more advanced macro controller with software I wrote with a pic programmer. The diffreence with a 555 time and a chip you program your self is with the chip you program you can ajust the speed of fire eg ( 30 Ns ) rate of fire ( 3 round burst )...
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 15, 2008, 04:03:43 PM: so your going to sell us the rapid fire pic/software?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on May 15, 2008, 07:36:35 PM: Quote from: redryno1221 on May 15, 2008, 04:03:43 PM
so your going to sell us the rapid fire pic/software?

I dont sell anything if you want the code it is very simple tell me the pic you want to use and I will write it for you and post the hex file here free of charge..
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 15, 2008, 08:17:47 PM: sounds good but i don't have a pic or a programmer where can i get them...what would you recommend (picaxe,ETC...)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 18, 2008, 06:54:29 PM: [cough]**BUMP**[/cough]
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on May 18, 2008, 07:10:13 PM: Quote from: redryno1221 on May 15, 2008, 08:17:47 PM
sounds good but i don't have a pic or a programmer where can i get them...what would you recommend (picaxe,ETC...)

:D sorry ask KingMike he can sell you a chip with the software preflashed..
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 18, 2008, 07:33:42 PM: Quote from: Cyberpyrot on May 18, 2008, 07:10:13 PM
:D sorry ask KingMike he can sell you a chip with the software preflashed..
i'll ask him but what kind of pic programmer do you or him use and the chips... would this be a good programmer... (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170219308775) how about this one? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=360052183402)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: KingMike_OS on May 22, 2008, 06:08:24 AM: I like this programmer

http://www.imagesco.com/microcontroller/epic-usb-port-programmer.html

But it will cost you
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 22, 2008, 08:39:59 PM: ^that one is great but i don't need a professional one just one to write to 8 pin pics... found one for cheap thanx anyway
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: LAST.1.STANDIN on May 25, 2008, 09:27:56 PM: Quote from: Cyberpyrot on May 15, 2008, 07:36:35 PM
I dont sell anything if you want the code it is very simple tell me the pic you want to use and I will write it for you and post the hex file here free of charge..

Okay well i have the programmer and a 12F683 pic microcontroller. What would the code or Hex be for that
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 25, 2008, 09:43:15 PM: i think it depends on the programmer... ask "king mike os"....
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: mmoore on May 29, 2008, 06:29:23 AM: Cyberpyrot or Bigmike do you have the hex file for the 12f683 to have a rapid fire through the trigger?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on May 29, 2008, 04:07:21 PM: Quote from: mmoore on May 29, 2008, 06:29:23 AM
Cyberpyrot or Bigmike do you have the hex file for the 12f683 to have a rapid fire through the trigger?
ask king mike os
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on May 29, 2008, 05:46:50 PM: Quote from: mmoore on May 29, 2008, 06:29:23 AM
Cyberpyrot or Bigmike do you have the hex file for the 12f683 to have a rapid fire through the trigger?

The code would have to change from TRIS to GPIO I need a chip to test... I think nico has a 12fXXX series chip..
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: KingMike_OS on May 29, 2008, 05:55:10 PM: Yeah nico has one he was playing with it last nite ..

i have 16F628 20MHz 16 I/O & 16F628A 20MHz 16 I/O But not the one his use 16F683
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: mmoore on May 30, 2008, 05:07:02 AM: if you give me your address i can send you a chip to test on
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: l0rdnic0 on May 30, 2008, 10:34:50 AM: I have two that I'm testing with atm PIC16F628A and 12f675(8 pin) the code for the PIC16F628A is the same for the 16F684A but the 12F is a full re-write. Also to note that the PIC16F628A has an internal OCL so no Crystal needed, That will free up two more pins :laughing:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: mmoore on June 02, 2008, 03:56:24 AM: do you need a 12f683 to test on, or would anyone be able to write up a code to perform rapid fire through the trigger?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: shrek09 on June 07, 2008, 11:11:08 AM: hi "Cyberpyrot" i am recently workin on building my own rapid fire controller but as you sed in the forum you wuld need to reprogramme the pic also you write dwn if we told you the pic u will write the hex file

but im not ure where the code is on my pic and how to track the hex code

could you please tell me where the code is and track the hex file

thank you for reading this :help: :help:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: KingMike_OS on June 07, 2008, 11:38:32 PM: if you have a PIC16F84A there are 2 hex code to download

X801769-026 (https://www.acidmods.com/software/X801769-026.rar) COD4-Basic-All-Models (https://www.acidmods.com/software/COD4-All-Models.rar)

Once you download the HEX file for the right controller need to write the Hex code to the
Pic in order to do that need a programmer which you can buy here

http://www.imagesco.com/microcontroller/pic-programmers.html (http://www.imagesco.com/microcontroller/pic-programmers.html)

Now you ready to play ..

if you don't have a programmer we sell preflash Pic on our wesite you can order that here :

http://wiredinput.com/ShopUSA/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=32 (http://wiredinput.com/ShopUSA/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=32)

Now if you don't have PIC16F84A that means you did not read the Tutorials
as its stated that the hex files above will only work with PIC16F84A.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: shrek09 on June 08, 2008, 02:33:00 AM: hi gamers

can any body send me the code for the chip pic12c508a

what size chip would you recommed the pic 16 or the pic 12

thank you
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: shrek09 on June 08, 2008, 09:28:37 AM: help help

can anybody tell me the code for 12c508a

and what pic would you recommend a 16 0r 12

thank you :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Frasch on June 15, 2008, 03:56:04 PM: :help:OK i need a hex code for the PIC Chip 12F683 I/P. Doesnt matter if it goes to the trigger or if i add a button on the back. Just need to know what the code is for before i begin the process. Also what kid on software will work for me to be able to put on the chip. Will this work to program it WinPIC800 V3.59. Thanks :wacko:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: lunchboxrts on June 23, 2008, 12:58:33 AM: Quote from: KingMike_OS on June 07, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
if you have a PIC16F84A there are 2 hex code to download

X801769-026 (https://www.acidmods.com/software/X801769-026.rar) COD4-Basic-All-Models (https://www.acidmods.com/software/COD4-All-Models.rar)

Once you download the HEX file for the right controller need to write the Hex code to the
Pic in order to do that need a programmer which you can buy here

http://www.imagesco.com/microcontroller/pic-programmers.html (http://www.imagesco.com/microcontroller/pic-programmers.html)

Now you ready to play ..

if you don't have a programmer we sell preflash Pic on our wesite you can order that here :

http://wiredinput.com/ShopUSA/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=32 (http://wiredinput.com/ShopUSA/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=32)

Now if you don't have PIC16F84A that means you did not read the Tutorials
as its stated that the hex files above will only work with PIC16F84A.

Do you have the ASM or C Code Available? I want to play around with modding my controller?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: spivey8 on July 02, 2008, 07:52:44 PM: i have a 12f683 I/P ... its already programed... just wanted to know if i got a programer, would i be able to get the files i needed on this chip to flash other 12f683 I/P thanks for any help
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2008, 11:31:00 PM: Quote from: spivey8 on July 02, 2008, 07:52:44 PM
i have a 12f683 I/P ... its already programed... just wanted to know if i got a programer, would i be able to get the files i needed on this chip to flash other 12f683 I/P thanks for any help

if you could, i think you can, and you posted it here, that would be a whole load helpful to many of us and we would greatly appreciate it
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: spivey8 on July 03, 2008, 06:45:32 AM: i plan on it, just need to pick up a programer that can read these things... ill see what i can get.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: KingMike_OS on July 03, 2008, 05:30:29 PM: send me the chip and i pull the code from it ...

Pm me for my address.

is this the same chip is use on this kit

Xbox 360 Dual Rapid Fire Controller Mod Kit Halo 3 COD (http://cgi.ebay.com/Xbox-360-Dual-Rapid-Fire-Controller-Mod-Kit-Halo-3-COD_W0QQitemZ270251593380QQihZ017QQcategoryZ139969QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) >>>> ???
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Markw on July 05, 2008, 03:53:00 AM: Quote from: KingMike_OS on July 03, 2008, 05:30:29 PM
send me the chip and i pull the code from it ...

Pm me for my address.

is this the same chip is use on this kit

Xbox 360 Dual Rapid Fire Controller Mod Kit Halo 3 COD (http://cgi.ebay.com/Xbox-360-Dual-Rapid-Fire-Controller-Mod-Kit-Halo-3-COD_W0QQitemZ270251593380QQihZ017QQcategoryZ139969QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) >>>> ???

Hi Mike, in your link, would that be a standard 555timer chip ? or would it have to be a chip I need to program ?

Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Markw on July 05, 2008, 04:00:09 AM: Quote from: SYSTEM on May 15, 2008, 03:40:36 PM
The 555 timer is a pre programmed chip which cannot be altered. People use this to do the tri er rapid fire with the help of a NPN transistor creating like a switch that opens and closes with each pulse of the 555 timer. I have created a more advanced macro controller with software I wrote with a pic programmer. The diffreence with a 555 time and a chip you program your self is with the chip you program you can ajust the speed of fire eg ( 30 Ns ) rate of fire ( 3 round burst )...

Hi Can you tell me more about this please.
I have a standard wireless controller and all I want is a basic rapid fire button.
I have just be and got NE555N 8 pin & 7555N (low voltage)from maplin electronincs.

Would either of them be ok, is there a tut. do I need the NPN transitstor? if so were does it go ?

Sorry I am a noob at this. I also have 1k ohm resistors. would I need anything else ?
Many thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: KingMike_OS on July 05, 2008, 01:05:05 PM: i was talking about 12f683 I/P pic not a 555 timer
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Markw on July 05, 2008, 01:57:38 PM: Quote from: KingMike_OS on July 05, 2008, 01:05:05 PM
i was talking about 12f683 I/P pic not a 555 timer

Sorry, my mistake then.

Would you happen to know if a 555 timer would work, and if so...

What components would I need ?
Is there a tut for a 555 timer rapid fire 360 wireless controller ?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Salincer on July 06, 2008, 04:37:11 AM: Quote from: Markw on July 05, 2008, 01:57:38 PM
Sorry, my mistake then.

Would you happen to know if a 555 timer would work, and if so...

What components would I need ?
Is there a tut for a 555 timer rapid fire 360 wireless controller ?

xbox scene has a nice one. It doesnt work for new cg controllers though. But heres a link,
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=643928&st=0

Also, System, you posted 2 files on page 1,
one named COD4-all models

Whats is that? i know its a hex file but for the PIC16F84A?

And, where is the tutorial on hooking this bad boy up?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on July 06, 2008, 05:52:30 AM: Quote from: Salincer on July 06, 2008, 04:37:11 AM
xbox scene has a nice one. It doesnt work for new cg controllers though. But heres a link,
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=643928&st=0

Also, System, you posted 2 files on page 1,
one named COD4-all models

Whats is that? i know its a hex file but for the PIC16F84A?

And, where is the tutorial on hooking this bad boy up?

wait are you the same salincer as on XS?
basically i think what all models means is for all controller boards, also that hex file is only for PIC16F84A. the spitfire is different to rapid fire as the PIC is hooked up to all the buttons on the controller, and so allowing you to program it in different ways and being able to use all the buttons as e.g a special combo.
spitfire tutorial - https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=17385.0 (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=17385.0)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: darkside0foz on July 06, 2008, 10:27:25 AM: Has anyone at all figured out everything that you need to program an 8 pin PIC chip and would be willing to share it with me. I want a chip just like the ones that are sold in kits on ebay along with two buttons and some wire. I just want to make the chip for myself rather than paying $30 for it. Help would be very much appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on July 06, 2008, 11:49:19 AM: (https://www.acidmods.com/images/PIC12F683.png)

https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar (https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar)

Please no one use this file for monitary gain we offer free info for our members...
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: darkside0foz on July 06, 2008, 04:45:28 PM: how do you open the above .rar file? My programs ask me for a password.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on July 06, 2008, 04:51:03 PM: Quote from: darkside0foz on July 06, 2008, 04:45:28 PM
how do you open the above .rar file? My programs ask me for a password.

Cyber said you guys would know the AM password
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: darkside0foz on July 06, 2008, 05:12:20 PM: well can you help me out, or tell me how to go about getting this password, I obviously don't know this password.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on July 06, 2008, 05:16:32 PM: he said the older guys would know
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: darkside0foz on July 06, 2008, 05:31:15 PM: if its the answer to this riddle that I have read about then you have to at least give me the riddle because I can't seem to find it. Do you even know it SYSTEM?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on July 06, 2008, 05:33:13 PM: Quote from: darkside0foz on July 06, 2008, 05:31:15 PM
if its the answer to this riddle that I have read about then you have to at least give me the riddle because I can't seem to find it. Do you even know it SYSTEM?
I dont know it yet but I suspect reaper or Robin knows it..
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: darkside0foz on July 06, 2008, 06:13:32 PM: I've got messages in to both of them but they may or may not be willing to answer me. Your help would be much appreciated SYSTEM. Thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on July 06, 2008, 07:11:30 PM: OK He uploaded password free files
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: darkside0foz on July 08, 2008, 12:09:31 PM: what are VSS and VDD on the diagram, I assume that they are positive and ground but which is which. Thanks You
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on July 08, 2008, 12:50:34 PM: Quote from: darkside0foz on July 08, 2008, 12:09:31 PM
what are VSS and VDD on the diagram, I assume that they are positive and ground but which is which. Thanks You

VSS = ground
VDD = 3V
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on July 08, 2008, 12:51:42 PM: also you will ne to do the 10K resisters on the buttons just like the original spitfire mod or you will have a floating pin..
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: corby7 on July 11, 2008, 04:17:16 PM: Quote from: SYSTEM on July 06, 2008, 11:49:19 AM
(https://www.acidmods.com/images/PIC12F683.png)

https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar (https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar)

Please no one use this file for monitary gain we offer free info for our members...

So this hex file will work as code for this particular chip as rapid fire code...Right? And will it work on COD4 and Halo's. Or will it have to be altered?

Great work, this site is very nice.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 11, 2008, 04:48:35 PM: this hex code is only for that particular chip but it will work for any game...
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: corby7 on July 12, 2008, 05:51:29 PM: Thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: chriscwill07 on July 13, 2008, 04:22:16 PM: If i am correct this hex code is not for the spitfire but for a rapid fire mod. Am i right? And if so I would really appreciate wiring instructions. I would really love to do this to my controller but the spitfire just seems too hard and i would like to have the dual rapid fire setup instead.

Thanks,
Chris
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 13, 2008, 09:03:54 PM: The spitfire uses a pic with 16 Legs the rapid fire usually on uses the pic's with 8 legs. So yeah it is for rapid not spit fire.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: chriscwill07 on July 14, 2008, 12:24:20 PM: Does anyone know the wiring for the switches on this rapid fire mod. I know how to program im just getting stuck on the actual wiring between the PIC, the on/off switches, and the board. I know where the connections on the board are i just cant figure out the switches. The terminology of buttons has thrown me off because I cant tell if they are referring to the button on the controller or the switches.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 14, 2008, 12:27:10 PM: Quote from: chriscwill07 on July 14, 2008, 12:24:20 PM
Does anyone know the wiring for the switches on this rapid fire mod. I know how to program im just getting stuck on the actual wiring between the PIC, the on/off switches, and the board. I know where the connections on the board are i just cant figure out the switches. The terminology of buttons has thrown me off because I cant tell if they are referring to the button on the controller or the switches.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME?
Same here a schematic would be great!
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on July 14, 2008, 12:43:22 PM: Quote from: Nemesis on July 14, 2008, 12:28:37 PM
if you mean the wiring from the PIC chip to the tact switch, i think, according to others, it would be like this:

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi196.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa209%2FNemesis_14%2FUntitledcopy.jpg&hash=892aef26fed51cf274c3d8873fb83e584c811649)

and if you mean where the ground(VSS) and the power(VDD) points are then here:

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi196.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa209%2FNemesis_14%2Fground-1.jpg&hash=4e99288ad4e83a3bc043222d99d57c8d2325e101)

this is for wireless controller by the way, mine is a cg type board

and for the r trigger point:

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi196.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa209%2FNemesis_14%2Frtrigger.jpg&hash=d8d76ea3649ee29de92915d415bc7175064631a2)

- so a wire pin 1 would go to ground point as pictured

- a wire from pin 8 would go to the power point as pictured

- a wire from pin 7 and would go to the r trigger point on the board as pictured

- a wire from pin 5 would go to a 10k resistor, then solder a wire from the other side of the resistor, this wire will go to one side on the switch your going to use for rapid fire (refer back to the drawn picture)

- then solder a wire to the other side of the switch and then solder to i think pin 1 which is ground ( correct me if im wrong)

turn on the controller and make sure everything is fine, if the chip gets extremely hot then a resistor is needed, maybe a 10k one

this is what i see and would do according to the diagram, i have not done this or tested this so i do not know if it works this way, it is just a rough guide according to what i see from the diagram. anyone correct any mistakes if i am wrong

thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: corby7 on July 14, 2008, 11:49:59 PM: Here

http://cid-3bcc1a9c50c407cf.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rapid%20FIre%20Mod%20Kit%20Tutorial/RFMT.pdf?#comments (http://cid-3bcc1a9c50c407cf.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rapid%20FIre%20Mod%20Kit%20Tutorial/RFMT.pdf?#comments)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on July 15, 2008, 08:45:31 AM: Quote from: corby7 on July 14, 2008, 11:49:59 PM
Here

http://cid-3bcc1a9c50c407cf.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Rapid%20FIre%20Mod%20Kit%20Tutorial/RFMT.pdf?#comments

link not valid/recognised
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: KingMike_OS on July 15, 2008, 11:41:02 AM: here this is how the link should be :

http://25jubw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pq1rqN0UfuDNDYK4qSZyrFKuKWX9psWesgN_BHYJucTo5SBcC2GXgq5YvzzG_KPq31BFFP7C2ro4/RFMT.pdf?download (http://25jubw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pq1rqN0UfuDNDYK4qSZyrFKuKWX9psWesgN_BHYJucTo5SBcC2GXgq5YvzzG_KPq31BFFP7C2ro4/RFMT.pdf?download)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: corby7 on July 16, 2008, 10:21:45 AM: Well I did not know that it would not work. Sorry, trying to help
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: ctsinc2 on July 16, 2008, 11:22:13 AM: Ok all, I have a noob question about the hex file SYSTEM posted. I want to rapid fire mod one of my controllers, but I want the actual triggers to be used. I see some mods use the small buttons added to the bottom to fire, while others use those added buttons to enable/disable the triggers to do the rapid fire. As I said, I want to actually use the triggers. Is the hex setup for that, or is it set to use the added buttons?

THANKS for ANY help.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on July 16, 2008, 11:43:50 AM: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=653455&st=0 (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=653455&st=0)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: ctsinc2 on July 16, 2008, 12:52:48 PM: Quote from: Nemesis on July 16, 2008, 11:43:50 AM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=653455&st=0 (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=653455&st=0)

I know about that one with picaxe. I need to know about the code SYSTEM posted for a 12f683

Thanks anyway
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: unloopme on July 17, 2008, 08:07:36 PM: https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar (https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar)

Please no one use this file for monitary gain we offer free info for our members...
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Hi there, thanks for the hex, MUCH appreciated. Is the following PIC chip model usable, PIC12F683-I/SN ???
Thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: unloopme on July 18, 2008, 10:06:18 AM: Quote from: ctsinc2 on July 16, 2008, 11:22:13 AM
Ok all, I have a nob question about the hex file SYSTEM posted. I want to rapid fire mod one of my controllers, but I want the actual triggers to be used. I see some mods use the small buttons added to the bottom to fire, while others use those added buttons to enable/disable the triggers to do the rapid fire. As I said, I want to actually use the triggers. Is the hex setup for that, or is it set to use the added buttons?

THANKS for ANY help.

Actually my question is EXACTLY the same. I TOO want to use the triggers instead of pressing and holding an additional button. Can someone help us out with a wiring diagram and hex for the PIC12F683 I/P, please?
Also I have one old controller and I just recently had to replace another to what I am assuming is the newer model. I would like to mod both if possible.
Thanks a ton!! :victory:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: darkside0foz on July 18, 2008, 01:31:35 PM: Does anyone have a .hex file for a rapid fire controller for a PIC16X84? It would really be helpful. Thanks
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: OpTiCz on July 21, 2008, 05:41:22 PM: Same here. I would like to activate rapid fire for the triggers using the tact switches.
It looks doable since this guy is selling it. http://cgi.ebay.com/Xbox-360-Trigger-Rapid-Fire-Controller-mod-kit-COD-4_W0QQitemZ360069906383QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item360069906383&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1308
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: unloopme on July 22, 2008, 01:52:02 PM: Man, I just got my programmer and a couple of chips and I'm just ACHING to play around. I guess folks are busy on some other stuff. Seems like the 4 or 5 of that want a dual rap through trigger hex for the PIC12F683 are on hold.

I saw another thread for spitfire with the PIC12F683, but I'm not sure it's what we all are looking for.
Oh well, crossing fingers. :beg:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 02:20:50 PM: ^do you want the hex file for pic12f683? or what.....(not sure)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: unloopme on July 22, 2008, 03:16:14 PM: Quote from: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 02:20:50 PM
^do you want the hex file for pic12f683? or what.....(not sure)

ABSOLUTELY!!!
Is it the one that enables rapid fire through the R & L triggers that you toggle on/off through the installed tact switches???
That's the one we are all waiting for on this thread.
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 03:41:23 PM: Please search next time... CLICK HERE (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=20459.0)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: unloopme on July 22, 2008, 04:25:49 PM: Quote from: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 03:41:23 PM
Please search next time... CLICK HERE (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=20459.0)

Man, I am so sorry. I didn't realize that "spitfire" meant that the rapid fire would go through the actual L & R triggers, and the tact switch turned them off/on.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! :tup:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 04:46:42 PM: no prob just search first....
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: unloopme on July 22, 2008, 05:28:27 PM: Quote from: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 04:46:42 PM
no prob just search first....

In my defense, I had read that thread a few times...just did again, and a few folks mention that it doesn't work. KingMike said he was going to "work" on it. So I wasn't sure if it was working correctly. Also, the second to last post by, gamesroms says "would be great if the new buttons were on/off switches for rapidfire on the triggers." Can you verify that it indeed does work, and that we need to use 10K resistors between the trigger post and tact switch?
Thanks again in advance.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 06:38:08 PM: I don't know if it works cuz my programmer and pic are in the mail so the only way to know if it works would be to try it yourself or ask if someone else has tried it...
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: unloopme on July 22, 2008, 08:33:20 PM: Quote from: redryno1221 on July 22, 2008, 06:38:08 PM
I don't know if it works cuz my programmer and pic are in the mail so the only way to know if it works would be to try it yourself or ask if someone else has tried it...
Your right, I will definitely post my results.
Thanks a ton, man...:hifive:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Sl7rips on July 23, 2008, 02:50:24 AM: anyone got or Willing to Write a .HEX file for rapid fire through triggers for the PIC12F509 Microchip 8-pin 4MHz Microcontroller
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: corby7 on July 26, 2008, 10:28:58 AM: O.K question here. I have 2 tactile switches installed, is there or is there not the 12F683 software for this design. I am not going through the triggers at all, and all I want is to go through the tact switches. Too many thread jumpers is confusing people. If available can I have the appropriate area I can find the .hex for the 12F683 file to use on tact switches.

Also, how is it that the guys that sell the kits are using 1k ohm resistors and it is suggested we use 10k ohm on the 12F683 ?

Thanks
Corby7
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on July 26, 2008, 11:04:27 AM: Quote from: corby7 on July 26, 2008, 10:28:58 AM
O.K question here. I have 2 tactile switches installed, is there or is there not the 12F683 software for this design. I am not going through the triggers at all, and all I want is to go through the tact switches. Too many thread jumpers is confusing people. If available can I have the appropriate area I can find the .hex for the 12F683 file to use on tact switches.

Also, how is it that the guys that sell the kits are using 1k ohm resistors and it is suggested we use 10k ohm on the 12F683 ?

Thanks
Corby7

there was a hex code posted here - https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=20459.0 (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=20459.0) but some claim it doesnt work, kingmike is working on a new hex code so wait to see when he releases it. seriously its on the first page at the top, a little bit of reading and searching wouldnt hurt

the reason the guys on ebay use 1k resistors is based on the hex code, their hex code is different from the one here, that is why the pinout is different on the chip aswell.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Shoffman on July 26, 2008, 09:26:42 PM: This may work for you, i havent tried it. http://r00t-ed.homeip.net/projects/xbox_mod/

I want to be able to use the regular triggers with the one off switches for the 12f683. I dont know a thing about programming microchips or making the codes. Ive been reading up on it and trying to learn so i can make my own code, but it isnt going to good. Hopefully i will get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Shoffman on July 26, 2008, 09:29:08 PM: http://r00t-ed.homeip.net/projects/xbox_mod/ (http://r00t-ed.homeip.net/projects/xbox_mod/)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Shoffman on July 26, 2008, 09:31:10 PM: above i wrote one off switches, i meant on off switches
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: redryno1221 on July 26, 2008, 09:53:39 PM: Shoffman don't double or triple post it's really annoying and a waste of space...just use the modify button on the right side of your post...
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Shoffman on July 27, 2008, 08:57:45 AM: Hey, sorry, first time posting. Thanx for the info also didnt see that. Is there anyway I can delete posts ive posted? I hope that site will help somebody out.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: corby7 on July 27, 2008, 11:07:08 AM: It does not work
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Shoffman on July 27, 2008, 10:56:07 PM: It looks like he had a 3 way switch installed also, did you install that on yours corby?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: pdawg on August 03, 2008, 08:42:14 PM: Quote from: SYSTEM on July 06, 2008, 11:49:19 AM
(https://www.acidmods.com/images/PIC12F683.png)

https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar (https://www.acidmods.com/software/PIC12F683.rar)

Please no one use this file for monitary gain we offer free info for our members...

Has anyone tried using this hex code and setup? I tried it, but the tact switches did not work so if anyone can provide any insight to if this hex works and how they set it up I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Jouki on August 12, 2008, 11:49:10 AM: I have the PIC16F628A and I read that we don't need a crystal with this one, but now. how do I go about putting this chip in my controller?
I mean, what do I solder to what? I just have to solder the trigger then the resistor to the opposite side like an 8 pin? I'm a bit confused without pictures or diagrams.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: hackeruk on August 23, 2008, 10:54:33 AM: does this all still work im gunna make some

i just brought http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310076119772&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=021

so im hoping this still works lol
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: hackeruk on August 25, 2008, 05:25:16 PM: where can i buy PIC16F84A 8pins from in the uk? website or not
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2008, 05:26:32 PM: Quote from: hackeruk on August 25, 2008, 05:25:16 PM
where can i buy PIC16F84A 8pins from in the uk? website or not

maplins.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: wilson08 on August 26, 2008, 02:18:09 PM: Hackeruk ... I live in the UK and i brought my pre-installed PIC chip from wiredinput... It cost me £7 plus P+P and i got it in a week - I think it would be easier to buy your chips from there, if you download the HEX it will have a 1000 use limit.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: hackeruk on August 26, 2008, 02:47:23 PM: Quote from: wilson08 on August 26, 2008, 02:18:09 PM
Hackeruk ... I live in the UK and i brought my pre-installed PIC chip from wiredinput... It cost me £7 plus P+P and i got it in a week - I think it would be easier to buy your chips from there, if you download the HEX it will have a 1000 use limit.

why would it have a 1000 use limit?
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: wilson08 on August 27, 2008, 09:07:22 AM: i dont know why the HEX code that you dowload for free has a 1000 use limit, maybe because it encourages you to buy the chip for a small amount from the shop - To support AM and King_mikes work ? :dntknw:
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2008, 09:19:56 AM: its actually to prevent other people making profit off that code.
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: wilson08 on August 28, 2008, 12:50:27 AM: Quote from: Nemesis on August 27, 2008, 09:19:56 AM
its actually to prevent other people making profit off that code.
oooohh, ok :D
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Ikilzalot on May 10, 2010, 12:51:02 PM: OK well i have a 555CN Timer IC (8-pin) from radio shack and i was wondering if I (A) need to program this to rapid fire mod on my CG 360 controller and (B) if this is even capable to work on my 360 controller.
Another question, is there any tutorials on how to program a PIC 555 Timer? (just in case i need to buy a pic 555 timer and if i need to know how to program it)
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: rafaliyo86 on May 10, 2010, 03:51:48 PM: Quote from: Ikilzalot on May 10, 2010, 12:51:02 PM
OK well i have a 555CN Timer IC (8-pin) from radio shack and i was wondering if I (A) need to program this to rapid fire mod on my CG 360 controller and (B) if this is even capable to work on my 360 controller.
Another question, is there any tutorials on how to program a PIC 555 Timer? (just in case i need to buy a pic 555 timer and if i need to know how to program it)

The 555CN Timer doesnt need to be programmed. I think there is a tut for the 555 timer here you just have to search

I hope this help you
Title: Re: Rapid Fire Pic help
Post by: Ikilzalot on May 12, 2010, 05:04:21 PM: Thank you, i think i will try it this weekend when i get more supplies from radio shack. now one more question. do i have to buy a 1k ohm resistor or a 300 ohm resistor? i have seen both but i dont know which one to use.