the old motherboard is meant for windows 95 and has no ram or harddrive.
I suggest not ever touching the inside of a computer after saying this. You have no clue what you're talking about or doing.
I suggest not ever touching the inside of a computer after saying this. You have no clue what you're talking about or doing.I think i know what I'm doing. in fact I've actually started figuring the parts for a gaming PC. I only need the money and I'm onto the next part... assembly. and yes i know about the static charge and grounding. anybody here know of an x58 chipset with wifi? my parents wont allow wifi in my room and I'm wanting a decent motherboard without having to get an extra wifi card for the pci/pcie cards. if not then I'm going to have to modify or clone my laptops wifi card to usb somehow. maby an adaptor.
hes not allowed to have access to the internet where his parents cant see. What you could do is hook up the ethernet cord to your laptop from this desktop and bridge the connections so that the desktop uses the laptops wifi card.Thats pretty sad, that his parents dont trust him that much
Thats pretty sad, that his parents dont trust him that much
you'd be surprised, many parents are over controlling for some god forsaken reason.
it happens i guess. however my point still stands, a wireless usb dongle would fix that problem, just dont tell them about it. thats assuming you dont use a wep or wpa encryption or you have access to the password for said encryption.how the heck would I get one though? I have to use their ebay account to get stuff and their credit card to pay for it. I wouldn't be able to sneak it past them. btw I was the one who set up the router so I know the password. :laughing: and yes it uses wpa. the laptop bridging to the pc idea is a dead end as well. the mobo is fried but everything else still works. including its wifi card. maby could I use one of my psps as the dongle? oh and another thing: when I set up the router i added my own network for my PSP systems so my parents will have problems seeing if i'm on the internet.
how the heck would I get one though? they already monitor almost every aspect of my life. I have to use their ebay account to get stuff and their credit card to pay for it. I wouldn't be able to sneak it past them. btw I was the one who set up the router so I know the password. :laughing: and yes it uses wpa. the laptop bridging to the pc idea is a dead end as well. the mobo is fried but everything else still works. including its wifi card. maby could I use one of my psps as the dongle? oh and another thing: when I set up the router i added my own network for my PSP systems so my parents will have problems seeing if i'm on the internet.
1) DON'T use IDE drives, ffs. And you don't need SATA-IDE adapters, your mobo has IDE slots. . .
2) Seagate? No way, that'll fail on you. Get a Samsung F3 instead, it's faster too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185)
3) You don't need water cooling for this. Stick with air, it'll work fine.
4) Your graphics card is complete crap. GDDR2 is slow. Btw, scrap ATI get a nVidia instead. ATI drivers are f*. For the same price, try a GeForce GT 240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121369 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150472), or if you must go with ATI, here's a Radeon 5670: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467)
5) I don't like your mobo anyway, never heard of the brand. Try a Gigabyte, best mobo brand I've ever used: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423)
6) You forgot your RAM ;) 6GB of DDR3 1600 should be good for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225) (And no, DDR2 will NOT work if you're looking for an alternative.)
7) Oh, your power supply. I would not recommend this one. You'll want a Modular Power Supply. Only $10 more for modular and 730 watts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036)
Otherwise, your build looks fine. Just do some research on what you're doing ;)
EDIT: Oh, and PCI-e Wifi: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048) :P
dang that adds up to... over my limit of about 600 I need to keep it cheap.
1) DON'T use IDE drives, ffs. And you don't need SATA-IDE adapters, your mobo has IDE slots. . .
2) Seagate? No way, that'll fail on you. Get a Samsung F3 instead, it's faster too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185)
3) You don't need water cooling for this. Stick with air, it'll work fine.
4) Your graphics card is complete crap. GDDR2 is slow. Btw, scrap ATI get a nVidia instead. ATI drivers are f*. For the same price, try a GeForce GT 240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121369 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150472), or if you must go with ATI, here's a Radeon 5670: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467)
5) I don't like your mobo anyway, never heard of the brand. Try a Gigabyte, best mobo brand I've ever used: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423)
6) You forgot your RAM ;) 6GB of DDR3 1600 should be good for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225) (And no, DDR2 will NOT work if you're looking for an alternative.)
7) Oh, your power supply. I would not recommend this one. You'll want a Modular Power Supply. Only $10 more for modular and 730 watts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036)
Otherwise, your build looks fine. Just do some research on what you're doing ;)
EDIT: Oh, and PCI-e Wifi: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048) :P
That's a terrible setup you listed. I believe Ennon hit all the main points so I'm not going to bother ripping it apart more. To 'help' out a bit more, though...
4) The GTX240 is garbage. ATI has good drivers. I've running a 5770 and 5570 with 0 problems. Get the GTX 460 if you want the best price:performance option.
5) ASRock is supposedly Asus boards built with the lower quality components. I don't know the validity of this, though. Regardless, don't get it. GB is iffy.
6) No. Don't get anything higher than DDR3 1333 or it's a waste of money for OP. The board with automatically underclock the RAM down to DDR3 1066 because that's what the x58 chipset allows. To get it to run faster, you need to overclock the system.
7) Modular PSUs fail more often and are far less efficient. Always get a dedicated one.
OP: I suggest reading up on building computers more. Before that, learn how a computer even works considering you don't seem to know (I still stand by my first post). You're heading on the right track, but still have a long, long, way to go before you're going to be ready to build your first computer.
4) Um, what? I currently have a GT 240 as my main card, until I have enough money for a GTX475 when it comes out. (Of which then this would become my PhysX card.) I can run Crysis on High settings with ~22 fps. For the price I paid for it ($60) it was absolutely worth it. And no, ATI's drivers are garbage compared to nVidia's. ATI's lack of customization options drives me nuts :)
5) I've always had great mobos from Gigabyte
6) Huh, I didn't know this. I'll keep that in mind when I build my i7 setup soon :P
7) [citation needed] Jokes aside, I personally have a modular Ultra X3 550w that's been running for 3 years, it's been great. I'm not sure what the issues with modular PSUs you claim are?
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ok I have redone my parts list. since amd is cheaper I may just go with an amd based system and overclock it. here is my list.[/c]
HEC Optimus Black 0.8 mm Thickness SECC Steel / Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer CaseItem #: N82E16811121088Return Policy: Standard Return Policy-$40.00 Instant$69.99$29.99
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare DriveItem #: N82E16822152185Return Policy: Standard Return PolicyProtect Your Investment (expand for options)Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty[/][/font][/size][]
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MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD MotherboardItem #: N82E16813130223Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return PolicyProtect Your Investment (expand for options)Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan[/][]
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Open Box: ASUS PCE-N13 PCI Express Wireless AdapterItem #: N82E16833320048RReturn Policy: Open Box Refund Only Return Policy-$23.00 Instant$39.99$16.99
SPARKLE SX84GS256D2LDPP GeForce 8400 GS 256MB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video CardItem #: N82E16814187108Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy$29.99
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power SupplyItem #: N82E16817152036Return Policy: Standard Return PolicyProtect Your Investment (expand for options)-$20.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate$79.99$59.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7D-8GBRLItem #: N82E16820231308Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy$174.99
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOXItem #: N82E16819103727Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return PolicyProtect Your Investment (expand for options)Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty[/][]
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Whoa my god, wtf did you do to the coding?! I don't even understand how you did that. . .
But anyway, reading through that mess, rethink your graphics card. Say no to DDR2! And anything less than 512MB! lol, also you don't want a low profile card either. Go with my suggestion of a GeForce GT 240, I'm telling ya.
these cards are too expensive. starting at $90 they are just over my limit for something that isnt going to be doing many hd graphics. besides, im upgrading from an old system. anything will look better on graphics. even the old pure3d voodo 1 I have would probably be better than the old system.
Lol. . . you simply don't understand. It's about equality and bottlenecking. You gotta either pick high-end or low-end. You can't have a 790FX chipset (high-end), with a Phenom II X4 065 3.4GHz (high-end), with a Geforce 8400 GS 256MB GDDR2 (low-end). You'll be bottlenecking yourself, any experienced builder knows he'll be shooting himself if he does that.sorry this is my first build. i forgot that your system only goes as fast as your slowest module. btw would the integrated video on the mobo work or is that a ddr2?
So. Either upgrade your graphics card or downgrade your CPU and mobo. Which if you're seriously that low on money, I don't understand why you picked that CPU anyway. For what you're describing, this will be plenty for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103809 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103809) for CPU and I found a better mobo for cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435) and then with that $45 you're saving, ffs upgrade your GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127466 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127466) which is only $70--so I don't know where you're getting your "starting at $90" from--this tells me you really aren't searching good enough.
Take my suggestion. Please. I can't stress this enough. lol.
Why are you buying a liquid cooling system for a budget build? Glancing through the parts list I didn't see anything that would need extra cooling unless you plan on doing a whole lot of overclocking which I doubt you would have any need for. My advice would be to hold off on buying that right now, that's a good bit of money that could be going into something like a better gpu. Do what you want, but you won't gain any performance by throwing a water-cooling system in a build with lower end parts.
+1ok thanks. btw i've started to make a true diy watercooling system. it will be a 5" bay drive with everything inside it.using a car heater core for radiator, copper heat sink with plastic around it for the resivoir, and a gas mask plug for the filling port. (you know the surgical mask tubes have the rubber connector on the end.and i'm not a hoarder. lol) the pump will be a small fountain pump fitted to be an above ground pump. bay case... eh i'm going "freestyle" with a bay cover and popsicle sticks lol. i'll have to buy a cpu waterblock because i don't have the materials for it. video cards and MOSFETs on the other hand can be taken care of with a small copper pipe with a coper plate soldered to the side of it. btw im thinking of going with this mobo. its about the same price and has a few more features. here it is. MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard I think I mentioned it before but the price just dropped. I especialy like the way it has an oc dial and a POST tester built in.
You don't need liquid cooling at all, you will see absolutely no performance or temperature changes with the parts you have. You're trying to save money, remember? ;)
Oh, btw, that mobo has no integrated video.
Dude, you're not hearing me. YOU DON'T NEED WATERCOOLING. :confused: I understand you want it, but it will provide NO improvements on your system, meaning you are wasting your money. You said yourself that you're trying to save money. There you go, get rid of the watercooling.sorry this is my first build and im only 13. btw even though i had the water system more than 1/2 way done my dad wont let me do it. he says i might burn down the house with a short. I was going to use anti conductive fluids though anyways but he still says no. and my parents said they will add some money into it so i can stop using their laptop. im guessing their donation amount would be less than 200. new limit 900. if i need to i can wait till my b-day and christmas. after them i wil have about $1200
And no, go with the Gigabyte mobo I provided. It's chipset is more updated than the one you just posted.
Special way to burn Ubuntu? What? Lol I just stick the iso in Nero, click "burn", and im done with it.
And don't bother with Vista OR xp. get windows 7 for sure. vista is crap and xp is simply getting quite old, i dont even know anyone who uses xp anymore come to think of it. . .
what i meant was a lot of people will be in windows xp and think they can just copy the file over to the cd and click burn.
ya my xps mouse broke a while ago so i have to use a mac.
Ohh, I didn't realize people actually used the Windows burner utility haha. Yeah that won't work. . .
5-Button USB Mouse. $15. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826782027 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826782027)
And yes, I wholeheartedly recommend a 5-button mouse, 3 is not enough for the programs I use.
hey thanks but i think i will try one of the ps2 mice and a good keyboard. my mouse and keyboard were conected to the same receiver so neither work.
:confused:k thanks but i read that sometimes a motherboard wont support a usb mouse or keyboard when you install them with the included drivers. I could get a ps2 keyboard and a good mouse?
ok? if you have a PS/2 mouse and keyboard already, sure go ahead. but if you're ordering something I would recommend USB. and a 5 button mouse.
k thanks but i read that sometimes a motherboard wont support a usb mouse or keyboard when you install them with the included drivers.
I could get a ps2 keyboard and a good mouse?
ok thanks. i think i will go with usb based stuff. also im planning on a dual monitor setup. whatever video card i get has to be dual screen compatible.
there aren't many modern cards that don't support multiple monitors. multiple monitors is the way to go :tup:
also, if you aren't getting a liquid cooling system, spend that money on a better gpu. if you plan on doing any gaming you'll appreciate it when your gpu makes things look good instead of causing you problems.
If you're doing a first/budget build AVOID INTEL AND NVIDIA LIKE THE PLAGUE. AMD Processors and ATI cards are 90% Performance 60% Price. Go for a 5000 series DX11 card because that is what you'll need for gaming.
If you're doing a first/budget build AVOID INTEL AND NVIDIA LIKE THE PLAGUE. AMD Processors and ATI cards are 90% Performance 60% Price. Go for a 5000 series DX11 card because that is what you'll need for gaming.
Don't buy Gigabyte or Asrock. ASUS is a good brand (M4A87TD is one of them). Don't worry too much about RAM branding.
Windows 7 definitely.
OCZ Coolers are good for air-cooling.
ATI has actually been getting their act together windows drivers lately. My 5770 has been running perfectly stable for months now.
ATI has actually been getting their act together windows drivers lately. My 5770 has been running perfectly stable for months now.try running linux on a partition of your hdd. just curious if it will work with an ati. :winker:
thanks everyone i guess i might go with a nvidia if there arent any ati's that have linux support. sorry for not replying for a while. i was in dc. try running linux on a partition of your hdd. just curious if it will work with an ati. :winker:i dual booted windows 7 and ubuntu for a while on this machine. it took a good bit of work to get everything graphics related set up properly, but i was able to do it. there was a ton of screen tearing though, i never managed to get around that.
Hmm the Catalyst I installed didn't look like that. lol. and it did that before a driver was installed too, so i dunno.
i dual booted windows 7 and ubuntu for a while on this machine. it took a good bit of work to get everything graphics related set up properly, but i was able to do it. there was a ton of screen tearing though, i never managed to get around that.ok did you install windows before linux? also what does the "screen tearing" mean? is it where it blurs in one spot but not the other? and what are the specs of your pc? just curious.
it's a bit hard to find, the layout isn't the greatest. in ccc, it's under desktops and displays>(right click the display you want)>configure>scaling
ok did you install windows before linux? also what does the "screen tearing" mean? is it where it blurs in one spot but not the other? and what are the specs of your pc? just curious.
lol im breaking the pattern with the pcs we have around my house. all the things we have are nvidia and intels running single boot. and the highest ram is 4gb. Im going with 8gb. the best windows we have is a core 2 duo. and since the mobo is clock locked it wont oc anything. :( im building a better pc than my parents have :) pretty much a server with a 2 tb and 3.4 ghz stock speed cpu with 8gb ram. :laughing:
ok did you install windows before linux? also what does the "screen tearing" mean? is it where it blurs in one spot but not the other? and what are the specs of your pc? just curious.yea i installed windows before ubuntu, then i used ubuntu's partition editor to resize my windows partition and make a smaller partition to install ubuntu onto.
lol im breaking the pattern with the pcs we have around my house. all the things we have are nvidia and intels running single boot. and the highest ram is 4gb. Im going with 8gb. the best windows we have is a core 2 duo. and since the mobo is clock locked it wont oc anything. :( im building a better pc than my parents have :) pretty much a server with a 2 tb and 3.4 ghz stock speed cpu with 8gb ram. :laughing:
yea i installed windows before ubuntu, then i used ubuntu's partition editor to resize my windows partition and make a smaller partition to install ubuntu onto.lol i could go around my friends houses and make their router turn off wifi then make 5 bucks off them to turn it on lol btw im going to need 1 more parts check before i buy the stuff ive changed some of the parts out.
phenom 2 945@ 3.0 ghz
4gb ddr3 1600
500gb caviar green
sapphire radeon hd 5770
asus m4a78t-e mobo
500w psu
lg dvd drive
^my system specs, not including monitors, keyboard and mouse, audio setup, etc.
i build it last november, i'll probably keep it for around another year before i build a new one. maxes out most games at 1080p while watching movies on my secondary monitor.
i love having the fastest pc in my house, but be prepared to become the local tech support guy. don't offer help for free to anyone but close friends and family, you'd be surprised how many computer related issues your neighbors can get themselves into every day.
I suggest looking at the palicomp website (it's a uk site, but they list all the parts in their prebuilt pcs, and just remember you can always make it 5-15% cheaper by building it yourself).
The mid-to-midhigh range intel pcs are probably what you'll want, seeing as you seem to be leaning towards intel and nvidia.
Also who said 22fps on crysis with gtx240? What was the resolution you used?
GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6GB/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0GB/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
LevelOne WNC-0600 32-bit PCI Wireless PCI Card Adapter
ECS NGTS250-512QX-F GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Rosewill RCW-616 Laptop 2.5" to Desktop 3.5" IDE Hard Drive Adapter Converter
SYBA SY-ADA40011 SATA to IDE Adapter, Convert PATA Devices to SATA Port, RoHS.
NORCO C-P1T7 4Pin Molex 1 Male to 7 Female Power Extension Splitter Cable - OEM
Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-US-BA-WOPSU Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
1. crappy case go with a case thats has alot of airflow. antec 900 or better yet a 1200. full towers give much better circulation. i just picked a random case with a window and a bunch of drive bays.
2.crappy card. ud be better off going with something in the 4 series. ima be getting a asus 460gtx oc 1gb soon. its better than the one i had listed earlier.
why do u need need 2 4gb ram sticks. u planning on going 16 gigs? eventualy yes
if you want a awesome system id tell u to dump all this junk.
also i hope u have a ape :censored: cooler for ur possessor, cuz amds like to run hot. and 125 watts wont help.
i dont mean to be a ass but have u messed with computers before.
if not id tell you to redo your list. ive taken the dell appart and put it back together many times. and no, i dont think your being too rude asking me that. ::)
also yeah go with 1 tb hdd's you can run raid. if one goes under you have a temp back up
what i would do is use one hdd for pc operations and have my pc do backups everynight to secondary hdd I was going to backup everything to my dell. well, just the things i paid for and important documents :)
edit.
also your top question is a trick question. mobo, cpu, gpu if you go gaming.
adding a good amount of money to cpu cooler also isnt a bad idea.
i spent about 50 on cooler
and it keeps my q6600 quad at 12-20c idle. i dont remmember what its under load was. all i remmember it was awesome Ive got a cooler in my list that wasnt their earlier. its one of those monster sized ones. $60
he was spacing it so it displays properly for other people.
looking through that list, just a few things i'd like to point out:
instead of one 2tb hdd, consider buying two 1tb drives. that way if one fails, you still have the other one to hold you over while you wait for the replacement. really you'll probably be fine either way. go ahead and read what i posted above
instead of 8gb or ram, my suggestion would be to go with 4gb and put the money towards a better gpu. the gpu you listed will do the job, but there are definitely better cards out there and if you plan on gaming you're going to be wanting more. My parents dont allow me to do fps games so i don't think il have to worry about it too much.
i'm not sure why you have a laptop hdd to desktop hdd converter to IDE, then an IDE to sata converter, but i'm going to assume that you want to backup files off of a laptop hdd? yep
full tower cases tend to be quite large, i wouldn't plan on fitting it on or under your desk. make sure you have room for it somewhere. ive got about 3ft clearance to put it in so i think ill be fine. :)
Eh, the parts you listed will be just fine. You said you're not doing heavy gaming with it, so you shouldn't have a problem with it.
Only thing I suggest is a PCI-express WiFi card and not a plain PCI WiFi card. PCI-express is faster ;)
ok thx
Oh, and yeah get an Antec case. Or a Lian-Li if you want to spend the money :P
your parents don't allow you to play fps games? do it anyway, take control of the network, hold it hostage if they attempt anything. fps games are the best part of owning a pc.
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your parents don't allow you to play fps games? do it anyway, take control of the network, hold it hostage if they attempt anything. fps games are the best part of owning a pc.ive played one before at my cousins house. and controlling the network would get me grounded and possibly end my account here. :(
there ya go, movin up in the world. :clap:im already doing that to build my pc.
they'll probably try to make it conditional, you'll have to get good grades to play or something like that.
im already doing that to build my pc.
meh... they'll always be around. some parents feel the need to shelter their children from everything they consider bad, but IMO that just means the real world will be a far greater shock for them as a young adult. A healthy social life will help them acquire vital social skills, if you walk around acting shocked and appalled to every little thing as an adult people will think you're crazy. still, to each his own, they can raise their children however they want.ya im needing some good reasons to get wifi and fps games in the pc. btw anyone know what the cheapest physX supporting card? im wanting a dedicated card for video and one for physX. im also getting a v8 or v10 cpu cooler
expect it to become more strict.
DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT ACT FOR A SECOND LIKE THERE IS ANYTHING IN IT FOR THEM! why? because they will come upstairs and play cod4 on it all day? lol I cant picture my mom or dad throwing virtual grenades on a pc that isnt even theirs. their in their 40's lol saying things like "oh well then FINE! i just won't build it" will get you nowhere. instead, convince them that it is in your best interest. already done mention that you are VERY interested in electronics, possibly considering a career involving computers. they already know about this because my highschool classes are already set up for a tech degree. tell them building the computer is a learning experience for you, thats why im getting the $300 and mention that a computer without networking is like a car without wheels. llol if he doesn't allow wifi i could take the wheels off his firebird to show him what its like! lol jkd you won't learn much without access to the internet, it is a VITAL self education resource. that is true because they want me off their pc PERMANENTLY! make it sound like the pros far outweigh the cons. ya about a year ago one of my friends searched some stuff up on my psp. it was stuff they shouldnt be looking at. :dntknw: thats a big con they seem to come back to every time we talk about building this. maby resolve this by some usb pic with a 5 ft range rfid for a pc lock and key? as long as im out of range it locks the keyboard and mouse? maby put the transmitter in my watch and pic in my usb hub? the fps games are trickier, you'll have to use the old "it'll keep me out of trouble" route, which doesnt always work. ya if i dont get this pc il be getting a laptop which will have wifi already :) good luck thanks i just might need it.
instead of creating some overcomplicated locking mechanism, why not just hit windows+l when you're leaving your computer. that works too. :victory: that takes you to the lock screen, set your user account up as admin with a password, and kick your friends ass for watching porn on your psp lol look up there! Its a bird! its a plane! no thats another one of those sick-minded tards getting kicked in the butt.oh btw will this card work?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187111 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187111)
or just tell your friends not to get you in trouble, followed by you learning how to delete your browsers web history. ya i know how to do that.
either way should work and keep you out of trouble. not so sure about the kicking them in the but part...
ok thx i also found a car remote system. maby use that as a remote for power?
lol ok :) btw whats the cheapest physx card I could get? im wanting a 2nd one to do just physx. dont care if its an sli
2.crappy card. ud be better off going with something in the 4 series. ima be getting a asus 460gtx oc 1gb soon.this was the quote im going off of with the card i had earlier. this was the card I was talking about for the primary video out. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187111 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187111)
i'd start with just buying the 465, and grabbing a cheap card for physX when the right deal comes along.Ok thanks but one thing what are the requirements for a physx card?btw I haven't been on the computer for a while because of homework.
Ati or Nvidia, it doubt matter.
lol thats exactly how I typed it. apparently my mac doesn't like the return button either. The only things i changed were the mobo and processor. the changes are based on previous comments. And my parents found a computer building class around my area. He is going to teach me how to build and reprogram a computer. My plans for this pc are to have a multiboot running linux, osx and windows.
sounds like a great learning experience for you, have fun with it. also, what exactly do they mean by reprogram?I mean like programming a game from scratch or editing software. I wonder what language psps use... maby edit one of the minis on psn so I have less to look through. I would take the security stuff and leave it alone then change the game to a hbl running on ofw?
you mean he was arrested for a drug charge earlier in life? or was he actually stoned talking to your parents?lol he wasn't arested, and no he wasn't stoned. we know someone who he pays rent to.
Ryan, you did read my post about the RAM a couple posts up right?ya I read your post. im probably going to do the same dual channel as I had earlier but add a 3rd stick of ripjaw.
ya I read your post. im probably going to do the same dual channel as I had earlier but add a 3rd stick of ripjaw.
What's an itouch? I'm pretty sure there is no product named that. Do you mean an iPod Touch?
Yeah. Don't call it that.
Yeah in your face.
And please tell me that you're not using a crappy CRT screen with this >_<
Oi, congrats. It's all a learning experience :)
I suppose this wouldn't be a good time to critic your part list haha, I've been gone. Might I ask why you chose your current HDD over the Samsung F3? SATA 6 gb/sec and capacity
Or why you chose the GTX 465 over the 460 (Good choice on EVGA though)? I did because my dad wanted me to get this thing built soon. He also didn't want me to use the EVGA because I was already over budget and he made me use a sparkle card. (the one I had up there earlier)
The CPU cooler you posted is. . . odd looking imo. I idle around 20 and can play 3D games around 30-40.
I was looking at that case, how do you like it? This thing works great! can't believe how much it cools my parts. I put my hand in the HDD area while it was on and I felt like my hand was outside for a few minutes in the winter! Of course, my room is poorly insulated and Im in the 2nd story of the house.
EDIT: I know you already figured this out, but if a PC doesn't start, it's not getting power ;) A PC will power on without a graphics card, so that wouldn't be the problem. And it's not really possible for you to seat the CPU improperly lol.
And please tell me that you're not using a crappy CRT screen with this >_<
Actualy yes I am using a CRT and an lcd screen toogether. I just use the CRT for in game stats and things like that. I plan to replace these both with a 20 inch LCD as soon as I get the money.
SATA 6 gb/sec and capacity
I did because my dad wanted me to get this thing built soon. He also didn't want me to use the EVGA because I was already over budget and he made me use a sparkle card. (the one I had up there earlier)
I idle around 20 and can play 3D games around 30-40.
This thing works great! can't believe how much it cools my parts. I put my hand in the HDD area while it was on and I felt like my hand was outside for a few minutes in the winter! Of course, my room is poorly insulated and Im in the 2nd story of the house.
Actualy yes I am using a CRT and an lcd screen toogether. I just use the CRT for in game stats and things like that. I plan to replace these both with a 20 inch LCD as soon as I get the money.
Ohh I missed that. Yeah, that makes sense. Good choice then.
Hmm ok. The 460 is cheaper and faster. Stupid nVidia and their naming scheme for the 400 series :P I wish I knew this earlier :)
Hm, not bad. I'm a Thermaltake fan. (ha, pun, get it? lol) not realy.
I didn't see the case until you posted it. It looks interesting, I may have to try it out and buy one sometime :D You should. I looked at the hardware reviews, and my CPU cooler should have the CPU around 20 C warmer, but I think my case has made it even more eficient. I have 3 HDDs in this thing and it barely makes any noise as long as my 2nd HDD stays off. (the one from the old PC) I plan on clearing these HDDs and making a multiboot on it so my laptop HDD has OSX, my primary has the windows 7 on it, and the one from the old PC will have linux on it.
Ohh ok cool, gotcha. I was gonna say, if you're using just a CRT screen, you just wasted money on the PC lol. Personally, like Jacob said, I would get at least a 23" screen with 1080p. Stay away from LG, btw. I'm running a 22" and it's too small on 1080p D: I'm planning on getting a 24" next year, my eyes are going bad on this thing haha I was thinking of a samsung with 2 HDMI ports on it so I could have 1 for the PC and 1 for something else like a PS3.
I was thinking of a samsung with 2 HDMI ports on it so I could have 1 for the PC and 1 for something else like a PS3.
Guess that kicks was WRONG, I can build a PC, and i do know what i'm doing!
I could also use the old PC screen and hang it above my bed so I could use it at night for watching movies or playing a game or 2.
LOL that wasn't the screen Im talking about. Im talking about the LCD. funny idea though. Ive seen news reporters KO'd by stage lights before, but not a person sleeping then KO'd from an old white monitor smashing them in the face. It would be interesting to see that in slow motion. :laughing: Old PCs own literaly! :faint:
yep but I never had this much detail packed onto the monitor. I think I may have had it for a while but never noticed it.
im sorry but that makes no sense... if it worked fine with the old computer and not this one then its ur GPU's fault. Not your monitor.
Im getting a bigger screen. I think I might get an xbox controller and a game.
after those 3, I'm getting a better PSU (not enough HDD connectors), SLI, then blu-ray. After all that, Im getting the extra things such as extra fans, UV lights (although the fans are doing a good enough job at this), and a new speaker system.
BTW does anyone know of a PSU that can be mounted in a 5.25" bay? I don't want to have to replace this PSU with a $300-400 PSU in order to handle all these HDDs.
the 1st major set of problems have just set in. The PC won't boot. It says "checking DMI pool data" then if you wait 5-10 min. it would say something like "boot drive error" or if I put in the boot disk it would say "booting from cd/dvd". I have to go into the boot disk and do a memory check 5-10 times before it starts the memory check then windows. any ideas why?
Hey sorry if I'm bumping an old topic, but I wanted to give you an update on my PC. I got a new xbox controller for it and replaced all the buttons with bullet shells (except the large green X and the bumpers). The wifi has gone haywire and I don't have any way to fix it, so I could be playing games and then lose internet when the signal still shows 4/5 bars. I keep telling my dad that we need to convert the old phone line that goes to my room (unused and a cat5e cable) into a wired connection, but he won't let me because the jack is on the opposite side of my room. I already have 2 cables hanging above my door and going around the trim of my room, but what's the difference in having a third? He won't let me do it even though I'm willing to pay for it. The hard work of putting the wire through the wall is already done, so the only work left is putting a 20 ft extension on the end in the basement, drilling a hole in the floor to feed it through, and plugging a 30 ft cable into the jack and my PC. All this could be done in a 1/2 hour and then I will have a gigabit connection to the network. I don't get why he won't let me do it. any help is appreciated.
One word: can't. I have too many dimmers in my house (at least 10). it wouldn't be any difference because my PC and the router aren't on the same line. If it hadn't been for the fact that my house has too many dimmers, I would have done that in the first place. Btw, I got the wifi working again. This time it was the router. I unplugged it for about 5 minutes then plugged it back in and it worked.